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Wednesday, September 27. 2017
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I still don't know what they are protesting
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Bird Dog>[iI still don't know what they are protesting [/i]
They are protesting The Man.
Problem is most people haven't seen The Man since the 1980s.
NFL Sheesh thank goodness airline attendants aren't so arrogant as to foist their politics on passengers. This applies to other occupations too. Apparently traveling acrobats feel we are all waiting for their deep insights for some reason
I take Coach Popovitch's comments as a suggestion that the "white people" who own and operate the San Antonio Spurs need to be made "uncomfortable" with declining sales of tickets and official team logo gear. White (and brown and black) folks in San Antonio* cheerfully supported Pop's team for years with subsidized stadiums and training facilities, and now he spouts this crap, trying to stir up trouble? What a friggin' ingrate.
*San Antonio doesn't do race riots, and peacefully integrated public businesses and accommodations half a century ago with a minimum of fuss.
Thanks Bird Dog for the professor's link. I was not aware of his plans.
Ultimately it goes back to Michael Brown, Ferguson, the "Hands Up Don't Shoot" lie and at the beginning and end of it is Race.
Or as the news folks say "Social Justice".
The white players simply know that they have to play a violent sport with the black players where "accidents" can happen.
This is what 8 years of Obama has brought as...Race relations knocked back decades.
The original protest concerned persistent racism in the U.S., especially with regards to the use of force by police. The widespread reaction of the players to Trump's trolling was meant to support the rights of those who had protested, hence locked arms while standing.
It's wrong to do it in the streets.
It's wrong to do it in the tweets.
You cannot do it on the field.
You cannot do it if you kneeled.
And don't do it you're rich,
You ungrateful son of a bitch.
Because there's one thing that's a fact,
You cannot protest if you're black.
Zach, you little turd, hop out of the punchbowl, please. Go and conflate elsewhere.
Use of force by the police? Police are allowed to use force. Maybe you haven't heard. Escalating force.
You shrug an officer off? He is by law allowed to shrug you a little harder into custody. You want to duke it out? Prepare for an ass-whipping. You want to use deadly force? Prepare to die.
Now, Rahm, he is a good Jewish boy, but is a Libtard. Could there be a connection here? Maybe if Jesse and Al could give a few lessons on conducting one's self in public rather than trying to blame the White Man for all the woes of the Black Man, we could get somewhere. Yes, I know, Whitey holding me down. Never have I head such BullShit as I have of late.
Pointing out that it's my fault, or that I'm simply a hater by virtue of the fact that I am White is not getting any traction in my precinct.
Black folk need to take a long long in the mirror on this one.
Pretty simple, I think. Maybe white folks is smarter. Did I really say that? On the other foot, there is a lot of stupid white people, too.
These black folks got to learn that violence is not the way to make friends and influence people.
Obey the law and be a good citizen and you won't have these problems. Don't present yourself as someone that breaks the rules. Act like you got some home training.
Would you pick up a copperhead or tease it? Have you ever touched the stove again after you have been burned?
Learned my lesson a long time ago the hard way. You don't have to slap me twice.
It is not my fault you live in the conditions you do. Make some good decisions. A lot of stuff I had to work very had for is presented to some on a silver platter. Make the most of it.
If you think that the police agencies go to KKK meetings to recruit, perhaps you should pay more attention to who the BigBossMan is in the jurisdictions where this stuff happens. Overwhelmingly Black / African American.
We hear a lot about Black on Black crime. In these same jurisdictions we hear a lot about White officers and police brutality. Don't hear much about Black officer brutality. Does it not exist? It sure do. Black officers despise the little gangsters. Whip ass? Yes they do. Let's get all the card out on the table.
Last word is that it don't go back to Michael Brown. It goes back forever. Ain't no slave alive. Ain't no slave owners alive. Grow a pair, man up, be the man you think you are.
Life is tough, and then you die. Always been tough and getting tougher. It is hard to make one's way in the world. Don't make it harder on yourself than necessary. A lot of this is self inflicted, and no one wants to point this out. Read it and weep.
But since none of that's true, then they were really protesting nothing.
But blacks do protest, so your poem makes no sense. Once again, you don't understand the English language.
What's it like to be wrong?
DrTorch: But since none of that's true, then they were really protesting nothing.
Of course there's persistent racism in America. But even if there were not, people still have a right to protest. And others have a right to show solidarity with their right to protest.
[DrTorch[/b]: But blacks do protest, so your poem makes no sense.
The head of the U.S. government said they should be fired for protesting. What's it like to be wrong?
Concerned Citizen: Use of force by the police? Police are allowed to use force.
But the use of force has to be proportional and applied without regard to race.
Concerned Citizen: Maybe if Jesse and Al could give a few lessons on conducting one's self in public...
Every black parent gives "the talk".
Concerned Citizen: Obey the law and be a good citizen and you won't have these problems.
But the use of force has to be proportional and applied without regard to race.
Proportional to what exactly?
And who gets to decide what is and isn't proportional?
Every black parent gives "the talk".
You're joking right?
A better message for blacks or anyone really...
Clue: If HRC had won would they be protesting? If not, then they're protesting Trump. A trumped up protest, one could say.
BillH: If HRC had won would they be protesting? If not, then they're protesting Trump.
The Kaepernick protest concerning racial injustice started before Trump became president, however, Trump's comments that they should be fired resulted in additional protests over the right to free speech.
Naturally blacks are targeted by the police because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. For instance, blacks are about 12% of the population but they commit over 50% of murders.
Keep in mind that this is the exact same media that ensured President Obama paid no political price after his team accused Mitt Romney of murder in 2012; the exact same media that looked the other way when Obama said, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” and “argue with neighbors, get in their face“; the exact same media that downplayed the beating Kenneth Gladney just hours after a top Obama official called on supporters to “Hit back twice as hard.”
Like the good Doctor asked "What's it like to be wrong?"
Zach, you little turdlet. Don't preach your bullshit to my white ass. I been there. I been the white boy in the projects. When you is the white police in the black neighborhood, is I supposed to call in a black police officer to apply my force when I are getting my white ass kicked by a black man?
Let's me tell you Zach, you needs a little force, I ain't talking about gravity, to yore dumb ass. Man, you are like white on rice to every new and trivial narrative the Lefttards come up with.
Do you get you daily talking point form Havana. Peking or Moscow? You are one subversive little son of a bitch. D. Trump said it, I can too. Pussycat wearing punk.
We see thorough your transparent ass and would like to kick it.
Now Ray, These facts are forbidden and you should know better. You will be re-educated and perhaps sterilized to fix your malady.
Concerned Citizen: you needs a little force
the use of force by law enforcement officers becomes necessary and is permitted under specific circumstances, such as in self-defense or in defense of another individual or group.
Law enforcement officers should use only the amount of force necessary to mitigate an incident, make an arrest, or protect themselves or others from harm.
National Institute of Justice
As for racial bias in law enforcement, that is prohibited by the 14th Amendment.
14th Amendment: No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Ray: Naturally blacks are targeted by the police because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime.
And they represent a disproportionate amount of crime victims. Most black Americans want effective law enforcement, but don't want to be harassed either.
The vast majority of blacks are law-abiding, so when the police target blacks because of their race, they are effectively penalizing the innocent, as well as violating the law they have sworn to uphold.
Glad to see the article on subsidence as major cause of sea level change perception.
A few days ago my son saw his first scare story about CAGW. I was with him and explained all of the lies being presented, and how they were twisting the few data that may be true.
He's learning quickly about how much deceit is out there, and I'm happy he's being inoculated against the liars like zachriel. Pretty soon he's going to start humiliating them in public too.
"And they represent a disproportionate amount of crime victims"
Completely irrelevant. Once again, nothing of substance so you throw out the meaningless and attempt to reason from it. You're all fallacies, all the time.
DrTorch: Glad to see the article on subsidence as major cause of sea level change perception.
What will those crazy climate scientists come up with next!
DrTorch: Completely irrelevant.
It's completely relevant, because it explains why most blacks want effective law enforcement. But they don't want to be harassed either.
Furthermore, from the same statistics, we know that the vast majority of blacks are law-abiding, so when the police target blacks because of their race, they are effectively penalizing the innocent, as well as violating the law they have sworn to uphold.
Glad you agree their gripe is the all powerful Trump suppressing free speech with tweets. Maybe Napolitano should try tweeting and get the job done at Berkeley.
But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.
This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.
There is evidence in the official police-recorded figures that black Americans are more likely to commit certain types of crime than people of other races.
While it would be naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system, victim reports don’t support the idea that this is because of mass discrimination.
The bureau’s analysis found that the number of patrol stops increase with the amount of crime and police calls for service in a neighborhood, and that enhanced patrols in areas of higher crime can lead to “disparities in contact between police and communities of color.”
Zach, you little shit, you are in over your head here. You have never been punched in the face, much less feared for your life. You've never had to fight someone over a gun, or had to point or shoot a gun to save your skanky ass.
Because I am white and have to arrest a black man because he has broken the law, and he resists and I have apply force to effect the arrest, then I am biased and racist? Hard to judge how much force to apply when one is getting one's ass kicked. The guy beating my ass; he don't have to think about such things. I'm telling ya, it's freakin' Bizzaro World out there.
When I get called to provide police service, "it is if it is the voice of the Chief of Police has ordered you to do so." My Chief is a black man. Chew on that rag. I can't not go. To refuse service would get me fired. I don't pick my clients. They pick me.
Maybe you should become a police officer and do your best to be a smarmy little sweetheart and sort out dirty laundry in the 'hood. You will get a quick anthropology lesson. And it might just be upside yo' head.
TRIGGER WARNNG TRIGGER WARNING TRIGGER WARNING
A hint of sex, no violence and some crude language.
This happened to me once, just before I was trying to take a break to eat my little dinner. A domestic call. I get sent to the 'hood, a hard little apartment, one of many similar provided by the gov't. Fish frying in a black cast iron skillet, sizzling and popping in Crisco, I saw the can on the counter. Looked like some fried okra and mashed potatoes too. Man, it looked good and smelled good too. A slender black man in blue work pants and jacket had answered the door. "Yes, sir," I said, "who called?" The man said he had made the call and that he had a little problem. I asked him what his problem was and he told me, "she won't jump." Now, I ain't a rocket scientist or brain surgeon, that much is obvious but I has a tad of common sense, and I had no clue. After a minute I am made to understand that the wife will not have sex with him. "She won't give up the pussy," he says. Now I want to laugh, but I am not incredulous, and I can keep a straight face. It is a necessity in this job. I am used to inanity, but this is new to me. I roll that over in my mind. I tell him, "she doesn't have to. That is her pussy and she can do what she wants with it." He smokes that over. He says, "Mr. Officer, there ain't nothing you can do?" I told him that that was just the way it is and if I had to come back I was going to have to take him to jail. He was not happy but he understood because I didn't have to go back.
Now, if you take this level of consciousness, add a little alcohol, a pint of blood spilled on the walls and floor, handy weapons like scissors, kitchen knives and hot grease, you can make a real mess. My Momma raised me to have manners, and be a good boy, say Yes Sir, and No ma'am. Nothing in my upbringing or experience prepared me for this. All on the job training. The police academy never told you everything that was gonna happen, and a lot of what they did tell you was fictional.
No violence in this story. Only provided as a Public Service Announcement. Could have been violence if Mama in the apartment had decided to scald somebody with the cooking oil. Believe me, it happened every day. Sounds medieval, doesn't it? Well it certainly is, and a day's work could involve what you would consider "Day's of Yore." Don't be so quick to judge us boys in blue.
Just like talking to to poor horny guy that weren't gonna get none, you gots to be crude sometimes and reduce yourself to another level. Ain't really fun but you get used to it. Got to put another day on that pension. Good manners and polite will just take you so far. It is a different world.
And believes me, if you are white and the perp is black, nobody makes a case for the black man to have committed a racist act when he throws a brick in your face.
You need some real life experience and get out of that little stuffy room you sit in with those other little pricks and copy and paste all day. You get paid to do this, right?
You want to change the world? I kind of hope you get to do so. You, as Uncle Joe, say, are a "useful idiot." When they are done with you, the maggots will devour your flesh "just as shore as shit stank." That's a quote from the 'hood. Don't hear that kind of talk in the high priced neighborhoods. But, as for the facts of life, you can lean a lot from the adages and wisdom from the old folks there that have survived.
Now, I got things to do. Go back to your room for a little quiet time, smoke a reefer and set your mind free. And copy and paste your next arguments from today's play sheet.
In 2016, 69.6 percent of all persons arrested were White, 26.9 percent were Black, and the remaining 3.6 percent were of other races.
"L'amour? French consider fines for men who talk to women they haven't met "
Well, a man should never address a lady without first receiving a proper introduction. I do believe it is allowed that the introduction can be from common-acquantaince lady and not just another man.
It's all very old fashioned. None of this women's liberation aberration of the 20th century.
These implacable costumes, male and female, reflected the prevailing credo as to the relations between the sexes. The ideal woman was the sheltered lady, swathed not only in silk and muslin but in innocence and propriety, and the ideal man, whether a pillar of rectitude or a gay dog, virtuously protected the person and reputation of such tender creatures as were entrusted to his care. If unmarried, a girl must be accompanied by a chaperone whenever she ventured out to an evening’s entertainment in the city. If she were a daughter of the rich, a maid might take the place of the chaperone; it was never quite clear, under these circumstances, who was suppose to protect the maid’s virtue. Eleanor Roosevelt has recorded in her autobiography her relief when, at the age of twenty or so, she found that her friend Bob Ferguson was considered close enough to the family to be permitted to escort her home from evening parties at the studio of Bay Emmett the painter. “Otherwise I always had to have a maid wait form me — that was one of the rules my grandmother had laid down.” And James W. Gerard has added his testimony as to the iron code which still governed New York Society in that period. “Even when I was thirty years old,” wrote Gerard in his old age, “if I had asked a girl to dine with me alone, I would have been kicked down her front steps. If I had offered her a cocktail, I would have been tossed out of Society for my boorish effrontery.” Needless to add that a woman must never be seen in a bar — or even a smoking car.
The chaperone was, to be sure, chiefly an urban institution. In the smaller places, especially west of the Alleghenies, and among city people vacationing in the country, the rules were greatly relaxed.
--'The Big Change: America Transforms Itself 1900-1950' (1952), Frederick Allen Lewis
You sir, like many others, toss around the notion of "Free Speech" like it is a frisbee.
My employer does not allow me to speak freely, unencumbered, while I am working for them. There's a whole manual describing what behaviors are and are not allowed on the job.
Trump said that the employers of these misguided protesters should fire them. There's no law mandating nor preventing them from doing so. Indeed, the NFL has rules about proper behavior during the playing of the National Anthem:
"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."
"Of course there's persistent racism in America. But even if there were not, people still have a right to protest. And others have a right to show solidarity with their right to protest."
Yes, unfortunately, like the poor, it Democrats will always be with us. Slavery, Jim Crow, welfare slavery, Democrats roll but they stay the course.
Yes they have the right to protest, others have the right to support them, but then others have the right to criticize the protest and to choose not to be a party to it by turning off the game, burning their team crap, etc.
Trump did not say the "should" be fired, he simply asked if people wouldn't like to see the owners pull them off the field and fire them.
But what we read is Trump ordered them fired, something beyond his power, that Trump demanded they be fired, which he didn't.
All Trump did was ask people if they'd like to see that.
And at that, more decided to display over disrespect to the flag and country, even if they thought they were being cute and protesting police or Trump or visualizations, or whatever.
Now all who oppose him, kneel before Trump.
Rules? We got rules. Unless...
The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual:
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
Would like to know what I personally have done to deserve being made 'uncomfortable'? What crime did I commit? What injustice did I deliver? This whole idea that white people, as a group, deserve to be yelled at, talked down, and reviled is the most ridiculous, divisive thing I've ever heard.
The exact antithesis of what Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke of.
He would be sad to see what is going on today in the black community.
Assume the conclusion...the only way your logic doesn't fail.
BillH: Glad you agree their gripe is the all powerful Trump suppressing free speech with tweets.
The President runs the federal government. The NFL is subject to federal oversight. Yes, his saying they should fire someone has much more weight than that of your pizza delivery person.
JK Brown: All Trump did was ask people if they'd like to see that.
"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?" — Henry II
JK Brown: And at that, more decided to display over disrespect to the flag and country
Sure, because the icon is more important than the principle.
I want Mr. Kaepernick and others who are on a knee, I want them to to listen to the pain that that may cause somebody who, for example, had a spouse or a child who was killed in combat and why it hurts them to see somebody not standing. But I also want people to think about the pain he may be expressing about somebody who’s lost a loved one that they think was unfairly shot.
JK Brown: Yes they have the right to protest, others have the right to support them, but then others have the right to criticize the protest and to choose not to be a party to it by turning off the game, burning their team crap, etc.
Sure they do. The problem was when Trump, as President of the United States, punched down at those who were protesting.
DrTorch: Assume the conclusion...the only way your logic doesn't fail.
You need to brush up on your logic. We assumed arguendo that the protesters were wrong about the existence of racism.
steve walsh: My employer does not allow me to speak freely, unencumbered, while I am working for them.
Sure, but the NFL has made it plain that they will not punish people who take the knee to protest racism, at least up until now.
steve walsh: Trump said that the employers of these misguided protesters should fire them.
And that's the free speech problem, as Trump is the head of the federal government, and the NFL is regulated by the federal government. It's undo pressure by the government based on the content of speech.
Sam L: Climate scientists? Isn't subsidence geology?
They are overlapping fields. Atmospherics is only part of the puzzle. Nor can you measure sea level rise without understanding subsidence.
"Decades of scientific research have shown that climate can change from both natural and anthropogenic causes." — Geological Society of America
Concrened Citizen: Because I am white and have to arrest a black man because he has broken the law, and he resists and I have apply force to effect the arrest, then I am biased and racist.
We responded to this above: "the use of force by law enforcement officers becomes necessary and is permitted under specific circumstances, such as in self-defense or in defense of another individual or group", but if you were to target people because of their race, then that would be bias by definition.
Zach said, but if you were to target people because of their race, then that would be bias by definition.
In New York City 90% of the murders are committed by blacks and Hispanics. When the police find somebody murdered, who do you think they look for, white people?
They are protesting their right to wear "cops are pigs" socks, which they believe is right in the first amendment to US Constitution, which they believe (without reading it) says:
"Congress shall make no law preventing multimillionaire football players from annoying paying customers and wearing "cops are pigs" socks to prevent police from protecting citizens in high-crime communities from rapists, drug dealers, illegal alien gangs, and murderers."
Zach's drifted a long way from persistent racism, eh. Argument for the sake of argument. The troll's trademark. Shouldn't feed them, but webmaster Bird Dog seems to like the traffic.
Ray: In New York City 90% of the murders are committed by blacks and Hispanics.
Presumably they look for someone who resembles the suspect, using modern methods of investigation, and not just stop and harass random blacks and Hispanics.
BillH: drifted a long way from persistent racism, eh.
Our position has been consistent.
Z: The original protest concerned persistent racism in the U.S., especially with regards to the use of force by police. The widespread reaction of the players to Trump's trolling was meant to support the rights of those who had protested, hence locked arms while standing.
Your position was to minimize the role that Trump played, as chief executive of the U.S. government, to inhibit free speech.
jaybird: They are protesting their right to wear "cops are pigs" socks, which they believe is right in the first amendment to US Constitution
Indeed, it is.
Our position has been consistent.
But wrong. How's that feel?
Digging and digging.
Indeed, it is.
But it's wrong in so many ways.
How's it feel to be wrong?
and not just stop and harass random blacks and Hispanics.
Another presumption based on what?
Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened. Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it. Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.
How does it feel to be sooo hollow and soooo wrong?
The problem is they are high-income earning, college educated, highly-skilled professionals. In other words, they are The Man.
I look at them as grown men acting out teenage rebellion. Most people do it when they're 14-16 years old.
There are two proper ways to meet a woman. For an older unattached woman, the first step is to go to her home and give the butler who answers the door a copy of your calling card, and say that you would like to pay a call on the woman of the household at a certain future date and request confirmation whether that would be acceptable. The woman will either give her assent through the butler or you will be informed that she is indisposed and not able to respond to your request at the present time.
The second way to meet a woman is first to speak with the father and be interviewed by him so that he can determine if you are of proper character. Once he has made the determination that you are suitable, you can make arrangements with him about meeting his daughter. The first meeting of the couple should always be in the parlor or courting room, where you can be in full view of the parents at all times. As time goes on, you may be allowed to be seen together in public, but in no event should you be together in private or in an improper venue such as a theater or movie house, although that may be permitted if a chaperone is also present.
I wish you would not say "targets" anyone. If a crime has been committed, you try to develop a suspect, no matter what color. It's not like a murder has been committed so let's look at all the black men in NYC.
Police are looking for lawbreakers to arrest, not just anyone to arrest. They want the right person as much as you want them to have the right person. There are always circumstances. It is not a perfect world. There will always be mistakes; there will always be collateral damage.
Now, as far as use of force. The use of force allowable is the amount of force needed to effect the arrest. Any resistance to arrest is obstruction of justice, another crime and can be as simple as trying to shrug the officer's hand off of the arrestee's body.
You cannot use an ASP baton on someone for trying to shrug you off. But you can firm up your grip and attempt to get them to comply. If they try to fight you, you can taze them, pepper spray them, ASP them. You can't shoot them. You are supposed to increase the amount of force in proportion to the level of resistance.
A citizen can resist any illegal arrest legally, even to the use of deadly force. I don't encoourage this. Better to let the judge figure this out. Police will kill you if you try to kill them. I guess this doesn't make sense to you, but it is true.
Best practice: Avoid the police if at all possible. If you have to deal with them, comply with their commands or questions. You don't have to talk to them at all. Ever. You make take a ride if you don't. Use your best judgement. Don't try to be a bad ass.
Obey the law, Be a good citizen. Police are violent men that can contain their violence, hired by society to contain other violent men that cannot. Now, you know what to do and have been warned. Don't p ay with fire. It is a dangerous friend, and a deadly enemy.
Last of all, get a little experience in the real world.
If there is a backlash, of any consequence, it may be experienced at the local affiliate level more than the national level. Chicago radio was reporting that local advertisers are jittery. Don't know if it is true or not.
Sea Level Hysteria in My Area
Typical Sensational Article:
HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) -
Some 37,000 Hawaii homes could be underwater by 2100 if global sea levels rise by six feet, as expected, if the world doesn’t make drastic changes to lower carbon emissions, according to a new analysis from real estate website Zillow.
Hawaii could lose as much as 9 percent of its housing stock, the analysis found. Put another way, that’s nearly 1 in 10 homes at risk.
Estimated price tag for the losses: $25 billion.
Zillow used National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration maps to determine the number of homes at risk by rising sea levels in each state.
(Zillow, now there's an expert scientific source for you.)
The Actual Facts from the Official Tide Charts Maintained by NOAA:
Mean Sea Level Trend 1612340 Honolulu, Hawaii The mean sea level trend is 1.44 millimeters/year with a 95% confidence interval of +/- 0.21 mm/yr based on monthly mean sea level data from 1905 to 2016 which is equivalent to a change of 0.47 feet in 100 years.
Sea level rise is linear and has been occurring at the same rate for the past century. (See chart at NOAA link.) The actual data indicate it will take 1200 years for the sea to rise six feet.
Jim: Sea level rise is linear and has been occurring at the same rate for the past century.
As the Earth's surface temperature continues to rise, the rate of sea level rise is expected to accelerate. There's a significant thermal lag in the cryosphere, but there is some evidence that the acceleration is already occurring. See Kopp et al., Temperature-driven global sea-level variability in the Common Era, PNAS 2016.
Concerned Citizen: Police are looking for lawbreakers to arrest, not just anyone to arrest.
While that is the ideal, some police, and some police departments, have engaged in discriminatory detention policies.
See also, Chen et al., The increasing rate of global mean sea-level rise during 1993–2014, Nature 2017.
My habit here has become to ignore any thread more than a few inches long, on the odds that it will be primarily a Z-fest. A quick reality check this morning shows me correct.
The talk black parents should be giving kids is don't sit too close to the window when you watch TV because a stray bullet from a black gang banger might kill you. Other talks might include: study in school although other black kids will mock you for acting white. don't get pregnant when you're 15 and don't have 6 kids by 6 different baby daddies, and get a job when you're old enough. If you are stopped by police, comply, don't run, don't be stupid like Michael Brown was and charge the cops. Oh, and also, do not listen to white liberals who will treat you like an unintelligent baby and urge you to be an eternal victim, because all they are really doing is keeping you down.
Ah yes, the "Greenland is going to tip over and capsize" hypothesis.
Jim: Ah yes, the "Greenland is going to tip over and capsize" hypothesis.
Never heard of that hypothesis. Nor would it be supported by the evidence. Rather, as the Earth's surface warms, the Greenland ice cap is losing mass.
There is persistent racism in the United States. I saw the racism in the 50's and 60's and also saw the tremendous effort by many people to change hearts and minds. Indeed it worked, it worked well. Very little open racism in the 70's. The old South was transformed to the new South, to their commitment and throwing off the old politics of the Democrats. But in the 80's a new racism reared it's ugly head and got worse and persistent. Black racism, black racial violence, open racism thinly disguised and getting worse. THAT is our persistent racism. THAT is BLM and the many black nationalist organization. The left uses this racism to divide the country and win elections so they welcome it. The MSM is left leaning to far left themselves so they act as an arm of the Democrat party to hide the black racism and misrepresent anything that can be construed as racism by the right. To the MSM a white football player NOT taking a knee is "racism". There is an ugly conspiracy between the black racist organizations and American communist organizations funded directly by Russia. It is an ugly racist anti-American conspiracy that the left/Democrats embrace and in many cases encourage even with all it;s violence and open intent to destroy our country. THAT is the persistent racism we need to discuss.
GoneWithTheWind: Very little open racism in the 70's.
Haha! Good one.