We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
...paternalism is warranted, they argue, because without the government, people would fall prey to big, bad corporate interests and their efforts to relentlessly maximize shareholder value.
Thus, Obamacare is all about the federal government making decisions on behalf of Americans because -- as Gruber and his liberal brethren would argue -- the people are unable or unwilling to make the choices that elites believe advance the social good. That’s why President Barack Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress invented the mechanisms in the law that, for example, transfer resources from those who are young and healthy to those who are old and sick.
I don't think that I am unique in preferring big bad business interests to big, bad crony government and political interests. If you don't like a business, you can quit it. Not so easy to quit an armed government.
Being American is not supposed to be being a US subject.
Related: Gruber is an honest Liberal because he admits to grubering. Seems to me that his confessions are just bragging.
A new word: "Grubering." Lying your ass off to make a better world for you pathetic idiots.
So now a new word has entered the national lexicon. If you buy a car that turns out to be a piece of junk, you've been "grubered". A "gruberism" is a lie concocted by the left for the purpose of keeping voters in the dark, at least until the next election.
Gruber verb \groo-burr\
(1) To tell a lie deliberately with the intent of misleading. (2) To misinform people based on the belief that they are too stupid to understand the wisdom of your position.
example: To conceal the truth about Obamacare it was necessary to gruber the entire nation.
noun A calculated mistruth intended to deceive listeners
example: The explanation given in favor of Obamacare was one huge gruber from one end to the other.
Gruberish noun \groo-burr-esh\ Any bewildering deluge of falsehoods designed to confound an audience based on the speaker's awareness that the truth must be concealed by any means necessary.
example: A preposterous mountain of gruberish was put forth intended to hide the fact that the entire nation had been grubered about Obamacare.
Please note: Gruber, Obama, and their ilk are not liberals. The best that can be said of them is that they are progressives (a reform movement against big business running all governments on every level -- simply buy what you want and citizens, the Constitution can go to h). Most, however, as you well know, are socialist-marxist-maoists-fascists-islamists. They have infested the once Democratic Party and the big government types have a good foothold in the Republican Party. There is no Democratic Party. There is only top down control by elites using government and crony corporations to do their bidding.
Most of you probably are classical liberals, that is if you honor the working man and woman along with limited government. One has to be careful what one conserves in "conservatism". The first conservatives were for King George III and later slavery.
Do the liberals understand that the target group for misinformation happens to be them? I am a redneck and clearly understood that we were being lied to and that the government had another agenda. But we were told that we were stupid for not wanting "free" medical care. Do the liberals understand that they are the target of misinformation for the climate change agenda? Or immigration, or voter id. In other words, the stupid Americans are not the rednecks but the sophisticated, Ivy league education and superior liberals.
Seeing that they did generally try to do just that, yes. No necessarily well, but yes. I am old enough to remember that despite the complaints that the Contract With America never came to pass, the scorecard on the attempts was actually pretty good.
If 80% of those elected promise to try to do x, and 80% of those actually do but it's not enough, I don't accuse the 100% of lying.
I reserve the term "Lying," for things like Gruber's admissions that "we knew it was untrue, but we said it anyway because we wanted to win."
Assistant Village Idiot
Precisely. Come over to my house for an Old-Fashioned sometime.
Assistant Village Idiot
Corporations = relentless effort to maximize shareholder value
Government = relentless effort to minimize taxpayer value