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Monday, October 2. 2023Playoff TimeI am a Philadelphian, for the most part. I was born there, but I really only lived there for 6 years, only the most formative years of my youth. I spent 9 more years, a few hours north of Philly, in a region evenly split between Philadelphia people and New York City people. However, that split shifted as I lived there. More and more New Yorkers arrived, and today it's a pretty solid ex-NYC region. Given it is equidistant to both cities, during the pre-cable/internet days you had a choice of which games you wanted to watch on TV or listen to on the radio. Of course, I opted for the Phillies. Not really a popular choice in my high school, but the team was amazing during the late 1970s. Even if they didn't win a World Series until I'd left for college, their teams were always in the mix. My father-in-law sent me this article, knowing my penchant for all things Philadelphia (I married into a Yankees/Mets/Giants family - talk about mixed marriages!). The one memory my father loves to share about baseball is related only tangentially. He had taken the family to Germany so he could attend a conference. We spent the last 3 days in Hamburg at the Hotel Intercontinental. I was getting the International Herald Tribune each morning, early, before anyone else was showered and ready for the day. I had to see how the Phillies were doing. They were about to make the playoffs for the first time in 26 years, after all. For me, it was an experience I had to indulge as fully as I could. I couldn't watch, or listen to, the games. We were too busy, but I was thinking about it constantly. I had hair just above my shoulders, probably was about 5'2" and skinny as a rail. My father and the others had finally come down for breakfast and were greeted by me, running through the lobby waving the paper, my hair flowing, yelling "The Phillies clinched! The Phillies clinched!" I didn't care where I was. This was IMPORTANT. I know he caught the looks of others in the lobby. I didn't. I was in the moment. The only sports I follow with any regularity now are tennis, football (college and pro) and college basketball. The other seasons are too long. I'll take in a live game if I have an opportunity. Generally, I will wait until the playoffs. Then I have an interest, even if my teams haven't made it. Tennis is always interesting - every event is a "playoff". I do not run through hotel lobbies, excitedly, anymore. Lobbies tend to be where I meet traveling work acquaintances or get ready to take in vacation days. I will still talk about sports, if I can, in those lobbies, particularly if it is playoff time. Playoffs have intrigue, history, and a sense of renewal. Doesn't really matter which sport. The playoffs, barring strikes or other events, happen with regularity and consistency. They are a story of their own. and they always feature the best players or teams. There is something refreshing, even when I travel, to be able to watch sports as the author in that article had. I've followed baseball from afar, taken in rugby matches, soccer (football - World Cup) matches, even hockey while I traveled. I thought Field of Dreams was a tad hokey when I watched it the first time, with my father. I noticed he was emotional at the time. Today, I get it. There is something about renewal in sports. There's connection. A shared experience. A love for something that, in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter, but matters intensely while it is happening.
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I grew up consumed by baseball. When the World Series ended I was counting the days until pitchers and catchers reported for spring training.
Then the owners started changing the game; artificial turf, lowering the pitcher's mound, playoffs, free agency, the DH, interleague play. All those things alienated me, though I finally got used to free agency. Then of course they injected politics into baseball and to rub more salt in the wound, another round of rule changes were introduced that finally caused me to say no more! I miss the game . . . . a lot. But the game I remember is no longer played. I gave up on baseball in the mid 90s with the drugs and steroids.
I came back with the statistics. LOVE the stats. They've upgraded tremendously (part of the reason for a lot of the rule changes - though I agree, most of the changes are not for the better). I thought about leaving after the abomination of the ghost runner in extra inning play. Then the elimination of the shift (a classic gift to mediocre players) made me angry again. The pitch clock is OK - but needs to be a bit longer. Increasing the size of the bases was fine. I don't know - some of the changes are OK. I despise the DH. One league should retain some of the traditional play, at least. It seems like, every year, they MUST make some changes. They don't have to. Better to let some things keep going as is. I wish your team luck in the playoffs, Bulldog.
We could probably spend an evening commiserating and fixing baseball's shortcomings. I suspect we agree far more than we disagree on the topic. Like you, I always liked statistics, but have never really gotten into the advanced statistics that have appeared in the last 30 odd years. I also like the game within the game. How a batter is pitched, will the runners go, squeeze, sacrifice or hit and run, intentional walk or not? It's about as close to human chess as any game that has ever been invented. In re perpetual rule changes, that's one of the things that has alienated NASCAR fans. Baseball continues to tinker with the rules at their peril. I agree on those points as well, thought the advanced stats are really intriguing if you have the wherewithal to indulge.
It is designed to "eliminate luck" and look at basic performance - and to a large degree it does give a better insight into overall ability. RBIs are great, but basically tell you more that other players are able to get on base before a good hitter arrives at the plate. One of the enduring 'anomalies' is Lou Gehrig, who batted after Babe Ruth and still managed to rack up a ton of RBIs despite Babe bashing balls over the fence at a then prodigious rate. Funny thing is, advanced stats explain that 'anomaly'. So it's engaging. I also like the game within the game and it's why I despise the elimination of The Shift. Learn how to hit to the opposite field. If you do that - The Shift is useless. It's like saying we're adding a fourth strike because too many home run hitters strike out and this gives them a shot to hit more home runs and strike out less. I grew up in Red Sox country. I had a student teacher in gym class who had played for both the Yankees and the Red Sox. A high school friend listed his pet peeve under his yearbook picture: "Watching those Red Sox lose." That was in the time between Ted and the Impossible Dream. I kept following the Sox, and was very glad that they won in 2004.
But a half century later, nearly two decades after the 2004 victory, I no longer care if the Red Sox win or lose. Or any other team, for that matter. Saw Von Hayes and team go off for an entire line up bats at least once inning against the Mets during pappy's retirement year with Big Green or Army at Veteran's Stadium!
Something like 23-3 was the final, a football score. Lefty Carlton pitching was pretty amazing, Charlie Hustle was up in Canada by that time. EPIC brush with greatness? Mike Schmidt batting practice autograph on a 1984 Topps as the Phillies were my hang out area to pass the time, he called me grown man as I was already shaving at 15, I said sir I am only fifteen, he laughed. Thank You U.S. Army and Pappy. I too grew up equidistant from NYC and Philly in Hunter on County though we were only able to get reception for Philly games. Strangely enough we got the NYT for our paper which in the Sunday edition had the whole league's batting stats.
Every night during the season the game was on the radio somewhere in the house listening to Harry Kalas. Back then in Philly with Bobby Clarke, Michael Jack and the Doctor giants roamed the earth Baseball was a game made for radio, a tradition I passed down to my kkds. I learned that radio truth because of where I grew up.
Radio was the best way to get the Phillies. Then, when I'd travel to see my father, he'd pick us up in Philly at the bus station, we'd stop at a book store, then drive to his house with the game on the radio. Baseball is a radio game. Kalas was amazing. I lived for a number of years in Montreal and you really haven't lived as a baseball fan until you listen to games in French. Le Circuit!
Actually they were pretty good. When we would watch the Sunday night NFL it was simulcast in French by 2 guys sitting in a studio on the East End. 1 night during a Vikings game the one announcer repeatedly called the Viking punter, Bucky Scribner, "Bucky Dent" His apology and the mocking by his broadcasting partner, both in French, was epic. Back in the day I listened to Harry Carey and Jack Buck call the St. Louis Cardinals games. In those days only a very few games were televised so radio was pretty much all there was.
I can still remember how a small number of games ended on the radio. I have only bonded to two sports teams, The St louis Cardinals and the Nebraska Cornhuskers. They have my unwavering loyalty. No other team does. Harry Carey helped make me a die hard Cardinals fan with his enthusiasm for the game and his bias for the St. Louis nine. San Francisco Giants vs. St. Louis Cardinals, June 8, 1962 - Baseball Radio Broadcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ss9E2L1IMIp I loved listening to Mike Shannon announce for the Cardianals. Better than wathcing it on tv.
On a side note, Shannon played for the Cardinalsl in the '64 World Series when they beat the Yankees in the 7th game. May we all live long enough to see that again. Game 1 of the 1964 World Series
https://ia801509.us.archive.org/25/items/classicmlbbaseballradio/1964%2010%2007%20St%20Louis%20Cardinals%20vs%20Yankees%20World%20Series%20Game%201.mp3 Unfortunately it is not Harry Carey and Jack Buck with the play by play.. As a twelve year old Phillies fan in 1964, I was scarred by their epic collapse. In first place by six games with ten games left in the season, and they finished in fourth place. That wound was not healed until 1980 (sitting in the left field nose bled section of Vet's Stadium), when the Phils closed out the Royals in Game 6 to win the World Series. Thanks for the memories.
I was 2 and living at a Naval Air Base in the Philippines at that point - no memory.
100+ wins in 1976 and 1977 ending in disaster in the playoffs were my 1964. 2010 was not too dissimilar. 1980 I watched at my dorm cafeteria with several friends on my dorm floor - one of whom was Andy Musser's son. I'd like to say we're still friends, but we went our separate ways. He was a god fellow, just very different from me. So, I wonder if Bulldog is a Taylor Ham guy (on a bagel) or cheese steak guy (with Cheez Whiz)?
First of all, it's Taylor Pork Roll.
Secondly, cheese steaks always come wit the Whiz. It's the onions that need to be "wit" or "witout". I'm 100% "wit" onions. And Pat's. Geno's if the lines are long and I'm in a hurry. Those aren't even the best - those are my answer for tourists. The "best" is really a toss up. Used to be Tony Luke's long ago, may still be - the one UNDER the highway (if it's still there). Tony Luke's in NYC is a disaster. Tony Luke had a bit part in the movie "Invincible" - as the guy in the cape. |