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Sunday, September 24. 2023I Am KenoughFor weeks, Mrs. Bulldog resisted seeing Barbie with me because she feared I'd have a negative reaction to the pro-female message, as some in the conservative media have. I assured her that not only am I not a conservative, but I have a sense of humor. One rainy Saturday afternoon, I finally got her to shift enough and we took it in. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's funny and the story is absurd in the extreme. Yes, there's an outlandishly Woke overtone of "men rule the world" as a message. It's only a part of the story. The main story really is much more subtle. Yes, it's partially about empowering women, but it's also a story about how Wokeness and Intersectionalism are dangerous, while individualism and self-awareness are critical. If you (like me) do not mind spoilers, then feel free to read on. I found Barbie to be funny, engaging, and intelligent, requiring an open mind and a willingness to engage absurdity to gain insight into deeper thoughts. Sadly for the scriptwriters, I believe they underestimate consumers and their own intelligence exposes the massive flaws in the agenda the writers hoped to push. It actually promotes capitalism (success of Ken's Mojo-Dojo Casa Home), civility and avoiding thoughts and behaviors which promote gender supremacy. Ken's hoodie, at the end, more or less sums up my view. Be yourself. Barbie was just a comedy that tried to (poorly) push a leftist agenda and wound up undoing itself with other, better, themes while making me laugh hysterically. Ken, inadvertantly at the end, promotes individuality. The movie begins by paying homage to 2001: A Space Odyssey and an openly ironic narrative describes how Barbie, the doll, "saved girls" and helped improve their lot in the world and in life by empowering girls to achieve. This was, arguably, the most inspired part of the production, because it parodies itself and, throughout the movie, it incorporates recreated scenes from classic films. Is there an overriding theme or message to Barbie? Yes there is, but it is poorly done. What the theme may be, ultimately, is up to you, and I'm sure we'll all have different views. I did not see what they wanted me to see (I rarely fall for Hollywood nonsense).
You can also become overly serious and get very angry at the leftist 'message' which was infused poorly throughout the entirety of the movie. From an entertainment perspective, I think that's a waste of time. While they really did try to put a series of leftist messages in, the ONLY message I got was one they didn't know they were making and must have made accidentally. Since so many people seem to have taken it so seriously, I'll address that aspect, in order to make my case on why it's only a comedy. First, neither men nor women rule the world and we work well together if people realize life isn't only about the collective "us" we choose to align with. That opens the door to intersectionalism, division and manipulation. The movie illustrates this with a vengeance - although it is designed as a means of illustrating "fairness" (a term I neither understand nor accept in political solutions). It is the collective view which creates the divisions in Barbieland/Kendom, and leads to warfare and political strife. Accept all but a few characters as over-the-top examples of highly stylized and stereotypical behaviors, to the point that Barbie herself is described as "stereotypical Barbie". As such, stereotypical Barbie is the most relatable of the characters. She thinks she has a perfect life. When it's taken from her and she is confronted with reality, she has to adapt. She's misled, and follows, the "women first" theme - but as Barbieland is returned to the Barbies, she recognizes her mistreatment of Ken. She admits this. In doing so, she becomes a female version of everything she had just criticized in the real world. Acknowledging the benefits and flaws of both genders, but feeling her femaleness is the most important thing to latch on to for development of her personality, and leading her to realize she doesn't belong in Barbieland any more. Her humanness made real, in the final scene, she visits her gynecologist. I laughed, because it means she finally has genitalia, but a conversation I had with Mrs. Bulldog suggested "it's because she's taking control of her body." I won't argue this - we all need to control our body. I have yet to see anyone else's body I've been controlling, but apparently the idea is I must be doing so if Barbie needs to announce this emphatically. In reality, it is her own acknowledgement of her internal struggle between the perfect (asexual) life she had, versus what she'd experienced in the real world, that led her to become human, as she was experiencing a very real, natural, human trait. Now her life is just a little more complicated. Another redeemable character is the ghost of Ruth Handler, the Barbie inventor. Played by Rhea Perlman, she makes valid points about the nature of humanity and life which everyone should pay attention to. Granted, this is a Barbie/female message movie and it's pushing an idea of a 'girl-power' message, but Ruth's commentary is poignant and life-affirming. As Boris Johnson commented, it's a pro-family movie. I don't disagree. I found it odd that Barbie eschewed relationships, even after she gained self-realization. She eventually found a place for relationships, but on her terms (as it should be). Ken remained a dullard, whose entire life would revolve around having a girl, 'beaching' and not having a clue what it means to have self-actualization (much like the members of the Mattel staff). Ruth, on the other hand, was very human and very realistic. For a ghost. Finally, there is the Barbie 'owner' who Barbie was seeking. Mother of a child, just craving love and attention, she was in a bad relationship with a (naturally) stupid man and an abusive and ill-mannered teen. A seemingly precocious teen who was clearly brainwashed by her teachers in high-school, reciting boring leftist propaganda about capitalism, cultural appropriation, how Barbie represented the worst of society and marketing, and other generalized nonsense which was designed to make her seem 'smarter' than adults, which she clearly wasn't. She was just a mean, abusive, dictatorial twit who didn't understand her mother and had no interest in doing so. The mother, played by America Ferrara, was the most realistic character. Her memories of Barbie were not just from her own youth, but the good times she'd had with her daughter, now an aggressive and distant leftist android. She knew who she was, lamented her flaws, hoped to improve herself, but was unfortunately dwelling in her fears regarding death, depression and cellulite. Her fears are what brought Barbie to life and created the story. Where the scriptwriters ultimately failed with the "women are better" storyline was with the mother. Thoroughly relatable and enjoyable, worldly-wise, forgiving and seeking love - she ultimately is the one who hatches the plot to regain Barbieland with the help of her brainwashed daughter. In doing so, she reverts to tropes and misandry. Men become simpletons and beset with petty differences and ego - as if women never have these things. I set this aside because the story, at this point, was so funny I didn't care what they were trying to say, I was focused on the absurdity of it all. All the Barbies, upon Ken's introduction of patriarchy to Barbieland, had become mindless arm candy. Remember, these are supposedly accomplished women who are intelligent. Physicists, president, Supreme Court judges, etc. They are so smart, the mere introduction of patriarchy made them forget what it meant to be intelligent and accomplished and they simply were somehow brainwashed into being arm candy. Like the Kens had been, originally. Ironic, improbable and absurd - but funny as hell. Ultimately, from my perspective, this was one of the best Libertarian, pro-family stories and anti-public education stories I've seen in a long time. By getting me to laugh at how stupid - and I do mean really truly stupid - leftists are, I found it engaging. It's hard to go in there, with an ounce of intelligence and common sense, and not walk out with an understanding that the absurdities utilized to push "The Agenda" failed miserably. The teen is clearly a brainwashed, entitled twit. The Kens are impossibly stupid. The Mattel executives are a leftist's absurdist ESG dream. In being so unrelatable, the viewer has the opportunity to push everything to the side and see the truth. The truth is that individualism is critical. Self-awareness is necessary. Gender politics and intersectionalism are failures which lead to cognitive dissonance and strife. Political 'solutions' make problems worse by promoting one group over others, often in the name of 'fairness' or 'making things equal' when, in fact, nothing is equal. Barbie is a plea for sanity, intelligence, and openness. Inasmuch as it is designed to draw attention to the flaws of "cultural requirements" (you have to be blond, tall, thin, pretty, funny, happy, etc.), it points out this is ridiculous. Individuals can never meet culture's view of what success is - even people who have supposedly done this haven't done it. They are just people. Barbie is a story designed to promote taking life lightly and easily, stop being obsessed with stupid ideas like gender, cultural themes, politics, and to promote a level of respect and civility. After seeing many conservatives rail on and on about how awful this movie is, I am not sure I saw the same movie. I get the feeling they are so wrapped up in their own nonsense, they fail to have a sense of wonder and humor over the nature of human existence. Be yourself. You do you, and you do it well.
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Bulldog: Barbie was just a comedy that tried to (poorly) push a leftist agenda and wound up undoing itself with other, better, themes while making me laugh hysterically. Ken, inadvertantly at the end, promotes individuality.
None of it was inadvertent. Keep in mind that Barbieland is a world created by girls. Ken is just another accessory. Stereotypical Barbie is shocked when she goes to the Real World. She expected to be congratulated for the good Barbieland has done for girls, but she finds out that women not only don't have an equal share of power, but that Barbieland has sometimes created unhealthy and unrealistic expectations. The irony, of course, is that the male-dominated Real World is reflected in the female-dominated Barbieland. Kens are relegated to eye-candy with no real profession other than "beach." For many conservatives, the cognitive dissonance hurts. There are many clues that the movie makers are very self-aware. Consider a simple example: At the end of the movie, the more 'liberal' President Barbie rejects calls for a return to the old ways, and that Kens must now be given an opportunity to participate. But the Supreme Court? Too soon! Maybe later. And the Kens are expected to be happy with the token. Bulldog: The Kens are impossibly stupid.
No more so than the other dolls (excepting perhaps Allan). But the Kens also have had very limited horizons. In Barbie Land, Barbies can be anything, Kens just "beach." Bulldog: It actually promotes capitalism (success of Ken's Mojo-Dojo Casa Home) Huh? Ken squatted in someone else's house, then invited all his bros over to party. How is that capitalism? QUOTE: There was living space for thirteen families in this one house. Yes, yes, this is a better arrangement, comrades. More just. Bulldog: Ken, inadvertantly at the end, promotes individuality. Again, it's not inadvertent. After living within the confines of the gender expectations of Barbie Land and always defining himself in relation to Barbie, Ken discovers that he has to become his own self or he'll always be "number two." It's the exact same reflection that defines the entire movie. How's that gonna work in a glorious egalitarian socialist utopia?
There is no individual as the hive borg decides what will be done with you. The white male patriarchy of the late 1940s up the 1960s is the worst time in human history and must be erased so we can all have the Benetton world shopping bazaar where we can all get our fabulous Barbie gear and rule the world with Magic Soil and our extra most bestest rainbow poop emoji. Transgender no race hermaphrodite Barbie is busy right now building the pretty pink poop emoji. Si se puede! Everyone lived happily ever after, the end. Thanks for the laugh as always. So is the Z troll, trolling him, her, zir self now?
It's pretty clear trolls get trolled. But what's really funny is what someone failed to know, recognize or understand about the movie in its attempt to troll...
I'm not going to bother responding to trolls, but anyone seeing the movie will begin to understand what I wrote and will also understand it's completely inadvertant that the writers destroyed their beautiful socialist agenda and females-rule farce. It's a comedy, and a good one. But as a statement it missed its desired mark by miles because it implodes on itself when anyone with even a half a brain watches it...which is what makes it that much funnier. We live in a world where men are regularly portrayed as morons by Hollywood. On TV, they are usually overweight losers who somehow pull beautiful, intelligent wives who help make them look good. Barbie just took that overused theme, pumped it up a bit on steroids and tried to make it an overriding statement to promote the idea that, somehow, men keep women down. No doubt this was true years ago. I saw the tail end of a lot of that throughout my career. Today, the situation has improved and still isn't perfect, but by banging that drum into submission, the idea is lost on those of us who have done a lot of work to improve things. In fact, it's basically Hollywood flipping us off time and again saying "hey, thanks but you didn't do enough so screw off." Which, of course, I laugh at. Screwtape gets it right - the idiocy of the agenda collapses on itself. Anyone who thinks this wasn't inadvertant doesn't know anything about the reality of what the goal of the writers was. And you'll see what I mean if you open your mind and watch the movie. Seeing what anyone else is telling you to see? You've fallen for the gaslighting...which we know certain trolls have. Bulldog: anyone seeing the movie will begin to understand what I wrote
We did see the movie. We disagree with your claim concerning the makers ‘inadvertency’ and provided specific examples from the movie to support our position. Quibble-GayZ loves them some Barbie.
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The whole Barbie movie is a lie and a fraud. Disgusting.
The true story about how Ken moved to San Francisco after GI Joe showed up and gave Barbie a ride from a real man in the back of his Willys Jeep is completely ignored. Of course, the woke leftists left that part out.... LOL - it's all true, of course. But Joe is a Hasbro product and Barbie is Mattel. Sadly, these are two worlds which are never going to tell their version of the story honestly and openly, because they have to fulfill ESG requirements.
I have not seen Barbie so I can't speak on the movie but a conservative high school buddy (we're in our late 60s and early 70s) told me that I must see it. That after the first half, it becomes clear what the idea is and he said it was great! It appears that Bulldog and my buddy saw the same thing in the movie. I have inched a bit closer to seeing it.
I had 2 friends, who are much more conservative than I, warn me off in front of Mrs. Bulldog.
Which only reinforced her original reticence. I simply told her "Expect the unexpected, I'm far more open minded than you give me credit for" (it's true, unfortunately. She's begun to fall for the gaslighting of modern media and thinks I'm a closed-minded boor, even though we've introduced each other to many wonderful things and ideas through our marriage....but hey - I'm a guy so when I make suggestions about how we should approach things, she often rejects them without consideration because, you know, I'm a guy and can't possibly know much.) She was surprised at how much I enjoyed it, but I avoided pointing out the many obvious flaws in the attempt to push the writers' agenda. Some trolls have insipidly attempted to push the agenda without putting context around certain elements in the movie, or by engaging logical fallacies. It's fine, as I said, people will have their own view of what the meaning is supposed to be. But there is one the writers HOPED for, then there's an entirely DIFFERENT one which becomes incredibly obvious after you start to see how the agenda is easily dismantled by the entire absurdity. It's like Monty Python's sketch where the Mafia arrive at an army base and offer "protection". Hilarious because it's absurd - but in offering the sketch, they had to end it abruptly because there was no story to spin out of it. They could, as Barbie did, continue to push the idea to an increasingly illogical end to make some kind of point. But that wouldn't have been funny. The movie makes it funny because it simply IS impossibly illogical. I have daughter, grand daughters, mother, sisters, of course I want to empower women. The left, the feminists aren't about empowering women they are about empowering leftists and feminists. 90% of them if given a legitimate option to kill all "feminine" women would do it in a heart beat. A feminine women is an anathema to a feminist or lesbian and an inconvenience to the rest of the lefty's.
The bottom line is we aren't all the same. Some choose or are born homosexual and most of them hate or barely tolerate heterosexuals. The homosexuals don't want to empower heterosexuals they want to convert them or see them die. There intent is to convert the young through things like movies and educational institutions, and to disempower the normal adults. You/we "normal" people can ignore this as they slowly grind us down but that is probably a mistake. Let me say that differently; if the movie that was putting down "normal" people was funny and made you laugh, that's fine! Now imagine a movie, a comedy called stepin fetchit that put down blacks and called them racist names but was funny. Is that OK? If you answer to bot is yes than you have a problem. If you answer to the first is yes but the second example is no, than you have been propagandized and you have a problem. If you cannot see this or understand the distinction than you have a problem. None of this racist/sexist/heterophobic/anti-religious/etc. bias is funny or acceptable. In Germany first they made it acceptable to laugh at the Jews, then to discriminate towards them and finally to kill them. White men and women, feminine women and masculine men are in stage two of that scenario in the Western civilizations. First paragraph, agreed. Second paragraph, second and third sentence are where we'll part. Simply absurd, and funny in its absurdity.
Many comedies put 'normal' people down. Through the years, one of my favorite comedians, Steve Martin, has made perfectly 'normal' people appear silly, stupid, and absurd. A detective, a father, and so on...it's part of the joke. Much comedy over the years has been designed to point out flaws in "normal" culture to help promote self-awareness and introspective thought, which is often needed. My view is Barbie attempted to do something like you're describing - but failed miserably in that regard. Where you and I realign and agree is that the Woke Crowd has managed to turn comedy on its head - that's why comedians are rejecting Woke and Cancel Culture. We have to maintain our sense of reality. They are the real Nazis. But I felt this movie, in its attempt to do what you suggest it was trying to do, just was totally ham-handed. I don't think that was the goal. The goal was to push girl-power, to make men rethink the idea (which hasn't existed for years) that we rule the world, and to suggest that we need more government to fix the inequities which currently exist in favor of more 'fairness'. Well, I saw the movie and if anything, it become clear that government CREATED inequity, that girl-power is a good thing but that they already have quite a bit more than they think they have, and that there was a patriarchal arrangement in the past, but that's long since been the going concern. It's message is pro-family. The one part which I know the writers MEANT to push is that Barbie brings mothers and daughters together. It's a shared experience like sports or movies are for men and boys. But there are other parts of it where it just totally missed completely and the writers think it hit high notes (based on all the reviews I read, which reinforced those concepts), when in reality it showed that single-minded pursuit of an agenda will crush anyone's humanity. I haven't seen Barbie and it is unlikely that I will. I enjoy a good James Bond style or John Wanye type movie and I'm just not into silliness and super powers and a lot of the other styles that are popular today. SO I can't really comment on Barbie and therefore I probably shouldn't have tried. My position about the left and the activists of all stripes on the left remains exactly what I said. I do believe that are trying to mainstream the abnormal and push against the normal.
Where I live they are taking out ads on TV about misinformation and disinformation and the piggyback the dangerous white supremacists and Maga style people. Someone is literally taking out ads to label these people as hate groups and the most dangerous movement in America today. They even subtlety included the OK City bombing as being part of this white right wing hate group movement. In my opinion the left is trying to destroy the right. Not simply win in an honest election but to destroy patriotic white people. I could be wrong... but I doubt it. I have seen some of those in my travels. The Left is trying to destroy the Right. Really, they're trying to destroy the United States. They have always been trying to.
Progressivism is anti-Constitution. Its entire ideology is that the Constitution LIMITS government, it doesn't ALLOW government to do things. Obama literally said this in a radio interview (I have long since lost the link to it, but he basically says the Constitution was good at telling government what it CAN'T DO and doesn't really say what it CAN DO. Which is mostly true, and that's why it's the Constitution.) Woodrow Wilson, a great racist, was probably one of the most aggressively anti-Constitutional presidents we had. Roosevelt was just more active in undermining it. And it's been downhill since. Our little troll is basically an anti-Constitutionalist and I'm beginning to believe he's a fascist (really Antifa, but they're the same thing). At any rate, I love Bond and action movies, too. But I love absurdist humor. Monty Python and stuff like that keep me going. You need humor to stay real. As I wrote, we'll all have different views of what the theme is. I just believe if you're open to hyperbole and absurdity, you'll enjoy this. I know I did. Bulldog, you’ve convinced me to give the movie a viewing. From conservative comments that I have read about the movie, Ken turns out to be the hero, and a funny one to boot.
No small matter that leftists ideas are absurd and rarely work. It’s the amount of destruction that the ideas bring. Lives are lost, destroyed and whole societies are left in ruin. And they never learn from their failures. Never. In fact, the more complete the failures are, the more they are able ton convince themselves that have been proven right. The least we can do is laugh at them. Same thing happened with the movie Broke Back Mountain. Conservative media thought the film celebrated the gay lifestyle, so they panned it. Good and hard!
But the opposite was true: Annie Proulx's short story, on which the film is based, treats the trysting men with disdain, going so far as to describe them as "a pair of deuces going nowhere." And their affair hurts everyone they care about. The "right" doesn't understand literary criticism, is my take home. So you are trying to say that Brokeback Mountain was an anti-gay movie? If true the gay community would have hated the movie but they loved it. Hmmm. I think you are wrong.
I agree, I think critics on the Right tend to focus on superficialities.
Critics on the Left just reinforce focusing on superficialities, and they lack depth, or a willingness to engage it. Being in the middle lets you take a look at things honestly and put the pieces together. I agree with you - I think the book "Brokeback" was very different than the movie, in some respects. The gay community loved the movie because it made 'heroes' of the two characters...that gay love was an "OK" thing (and it's fine, if that's what floats your boat). But they did destroy the lives of the people around them, and in a lot of ways it was critical, not of the lifestyle of being gay - but of the secretive behaviors engaged. Could have worked just as well for a straight couple having an affair (and often has). I haven't seen the movie, but then I haven't seen a lot of movies that I probably would enjoy.
But I'm not following your thinking here. On the one hand, you say the screenwriters / scriptwriters were following an agenda, which I take to mean, the Woke agenda. But on the other hand, you point out that the story has some subtle and sly undertones that would belie adhering to an agenda. This seems to me, to be an argument that is conflicted. Which is it, agenda hawking, or agenda skewering? Yes, they tried to push an Agenda. Basically Woke, but mostly "girl power" and "females do things better" and that kind of thing. Even when they weren't "doing it better" and just doing it "the same" that was the line.
Someone suggested this was not inadvertent, and it was part of the 'joke'. Which it clearly isn't. To put it bluntly, even the real human males are just uglier, more subservient versions of Ken. Again, overemphasized and extreme to make the point that capitalists are failures. Oddly, even in one of their biggest failures, they're succeeding...so men are successful by accident? No my point is the writers attempted to hide their agenda with the hyperbole they employed, but the hyperbole spins back and crushes their agenda badly. The women are just as nasty as men, to the men, prior to Barbie's enlightenment, they're just pretty, nice and accomplished, so you don't notice it. Once the men engage patriarchy, the smart women suddenly become robotic arm candy? Part of the story, I get it, and it's really funny. But it undermines the entire concept - all they need to 'snap back' is for someone to explain the 'cognitive dissonance' to them? But it has to be a Barbie, not a man (Allen is on the Barbie's crew), because that's "mansplaining". The government 'fixes' Barbieland and basically makes it a "mirror image" of the real world but women are in charge and men get token roles. They still have no place to live. Meanwhile, one of the more truly enlightened (Weird Barbie), only wants to run sanitation. In other words, every time the writers make a point, they toss in an extreme joke which undermines the point itself. The only point worth making is the one made by the ghost of Ruth, which is that it's OK to be an individual and live your life fully, and that life isn't easy. It's complicated and full of compromises and confusion. This is done well, and really just eliminates the agendas of the writers. Basically, you could write 500 movies with this as the main point - and people have. As I wrote in my post, I found it really funny and enjoyable. The problem is that enough people saw the agenda and focused on that and so they hated it because of that agenda. I saw past it - because that's easy to do - and once you do that, the entire story is just a fun joke, not unlike "Elf". "Elf" had a good point too, but they never tried to make any other point aside from "be nice". Well, believe in Santa, too. JustMe: 90% of them if given a legitimate option to kill all "feminine" women would do it in a heart beat.
No one wants to kill you. Bulldog: On TV, they are usually overweight losers who somehow pull beautiful, intelligent wives who help make them look good. Barbie just took that overused theme, pumped it up a bit on steroids and tried to make it an overriding statement to promote the idea that, somehow, men keep women down. Except it's a mirror image in the imagination of girls: Accomplished Barbies keep eye-candy Kens on tap. They don't even recognize that Kens might have their own dreams and ambitions. Bulldog: The women are just as nasty as men, to the men, prior to Barbie's enlightenment, they're just pretty, nice and accomplished, so you don't notice it. Now you've got it! It's a funhouse mirror of the male-dominated "Real World"! Kens are subservient and don't even really know they are subservient. They define their entire existences on their relationships to the Barbies. Barbies have all the fun roles, while the Kens stay around to "beach". Even the ending has the more 'liberal' President Barbie acknowledging that change must occur, but advances for the Kens must be incremental and mostly put off for "a more convenient season." Bulldog: The only point worth making is the one made by the ghost of Ruth . . . This is done well, and really just eliminates the agendas of the writers. You do know that the writers (Gerwig and Baumbach) wrote that speech, right? B. Hammer: From conservative comments that I have read about the movie, Ken turns out to be the hero, and a funny one to boot. Ryan Gosling is brilliant in the role. (As is Margot Robbie.) Keep in mind that Ken is the plucky "female" trying to navigate his way through the restricted gender role that society has assigned him. He does love Barbie, but he frets over whether that is all he is. A major plot point is how he overcorrects and becomes a radial masculist. |