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Friday, January 8. 2021A Dose of RealityHopefully calm will be restored as the nation moves back toward some semblance of whatever it is we consider 'normal' for the last 9 months. I hope things continue to improve as we move out of the Covid scare and fear mongering (yes, Covid is real, I had it as have many friends, but no it's not so bad for 95% of the people who get it). If we can move past all this, my job opportunities may improve. Then again, who knows? I know few of you are on Facebook, but I am (or was). It allowed me to reconnect with friends and family and it's a useful tool. I've also shared Maggie's articles there with my friends, and met many other people who I share interests with. I am well aware of the privacy issues, but I know how to navigate them (part of my everyday job) and manage them effectively. There is, however, one thing I can't manage. It's the real problem we're facing today. It's the reason I deactivated my Facebook recently (after letting people know how they can reach me if they want/need to). I am aware of many HR Departments doing sweeps of social media to find things out about people. I have heard several stories of pro-Trump people losing job offers. This doesn't surprise me at all in NYC today. The shift here has been significant from not just hating Trump to full-fledged belief that anyone who supports him is a deranged psychopath. I have never been a Trump supporter, but that doesn't mean anything because I've never hated him, either. It's best to hate him with the passion of a thousand suns in order to win approval with many organizations today. I haven't loved him, haven't hated him, I've merely tolerated him, and realized his persona was a massive problem but that he was accomplishing some good things. I was for honesty and balance of thought and reason. Today, you can't be that way. You have to be a true believer, or at least not come across as a believer of "the other side". In other words, it is almost a requirement to be Progressive to be "acceptable". Such is the nature of modern definitions of Diversity - be like us or you're not acceptable. I'm all for Diversity. Diversity of thought, and respect for other views, without accepting the enforcement of those views on others by law, social shame, or other means of behavioral modification (brainwashing via education, for example). Case in point, a family member who is a Trump supporter shared a story with me. They had a friend who lived in a city and each would share 1 picture a day of their respective areas. It was a way to stay in touch and share lives and enjoy the pleasures of friendship and our heritage. The city-dweller is a die-hard Democrat, but friends are friends and politics rarely played into friendship - as it should be. On Thursday the city dweller refused to share a picture saying "After the treason that took place, nobody who supports that man deserves anything." The family member wrote back a simple note which basically said that the entire summer had gone by and not a word was said about the riots which had burned down a good portion of the city. Not a word had been said about other cities on fire, or the demands for a voice to be heard. There were legitimate complaints and protests this summer, but all were punctuated with damaging riots, looting, arson, death, and destruction of homes and livelihoods. But not a word was said, in the nature of friendship. On Wednesday a few clowns performed bizarre acts of nonsense in the Capitol. Their main contention was they wanted their voices heard and inquiries made into potential election meddling. Nothing was burned, no livelihoods lost and a single death at the hands of a trigger-happy cop. There was no treason or sedition, just overanxious and overzealous people overstepping bounds. Unfortunate, yes. But it was mostly peaceful, unlike the nonsense from the summer before. So if friendship hinges on these kinds of events, then perhaps our city-dwelling friend needs to rethink their priorities. A simple note was returned which said "this is why I love you." Friendship resumed. Logic and reason must be applied, even when people disagree. We can get along. But as I've felt all along, the real problems exist on the Left. They have allowed Trump's persona to overwhelm all reason and rational thought. He has been off the rails lately. Regardless of how you feel about what he's accomplished, and regardless of how much we believe 'something' happened to the election, there are better ways to deal with all this. We are better than that, and we on the Right are much, much better than those on the Left when it comes to remaining calm and persevering. We don't have to stoop to their levels. I know sometimes it seems we must fight, we need to get angry and push back. There certainly are times for that. I don't believe this is the time. There are better ways to get what we want and lowering ourselves to the level of the mob we saw all summer is not that way, regardless of how much the media approved of it. But it is becoming clear to me that fascism slowly is creeping in from the Left. Mindful of this, we need to be careful that we don't fall into that same trap. Trackbacks
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Whatever is happening now is not because of the Capitol incident; that was an excuse, and if it hadn’t happened they would have found another.
The Left will put their boot in our faces and hold it there. Just you wait. Ordinary people are already lusting for any GOP or conservative person’s blood. Twitter purge well underway. Apple threatening Parler. Articles of Impeachment ready. ABC News Political Director supporting the cleansing of Trump supporters from the country. All this within hours.
re facebook
Potential employers checking an applicant's social media accounts is old news. I have been hearing about that for years and I live in the sticks. I am surprised you never thought about that. QUESTION: AS you gaze into your crystal ball, do you think the animus directed at Trump supporters will diminish over time? Or do they need us as objects for their two-minute hate? two-minute? Unrest and hate has been the leftist modus operandi for a very long time but it has greatly escalated during President Trump’s time in office. They hit the streets and filled their diapers almost the second after he was elected in 2016. And they never let up.
It's not that I'd NEVER heard of it.
The difference is that now it's literally not good enough to be ambivalent. Anything pro-Trump is purged and rejected. And not just pro-Trump. MUST be ANTI-Trump or it is rejected. I hate those who took a knee for the same people burning businesses, assaulting innocent people and looting stores.
Why do unarmed pro-Trump protesters get shot for occupying a public building, something the left has been doing for ten years to great acclaim from Democrats and their flying monkeys in the mainstream media?
They shoot us for occupying a public building. BLM gets streets named after them. Car accidents aren't so bad for 95% of the people who get in them. Hell, wars aren't all that dangerous for 95% of the people in the armed services. That is not a meaningful statistic, it's a dodge.
We are now getting a quarter million new cases per day and 4,000 deaths per day. The numbers keep going up, but people keep saying the same things they did in March when they were scoffing that it's just the flu. What data would cause you to reconsider your priors? The issue with Covid is less that 95% are "affected" - that's not a dodge. Your comparison is a dodge.
You don't engage a war or car accidents because it REQUIRES death and dismemberment on a large scale. The true risk of death in war is about 1% - about 20X Covid. The true risk of dismemberment or other damage is about 5%, much larger than Covid. 95% is how many have asymptomatic or mild/moderate reactions. 4.5% is the level of SEVERE reactions, but not death or other long-term damage (as currently known). The remainder is death or "long haulers" as they are generally known. Either way, this discussion is a dodge. My point isn't that 95% is a magic number that means "go out and do what you want". It's a number that basically says "take care, be aware, and definitely do NOT take risks that are excessive". Which, honestly, is what we do with EVERY OTHER virus or outbreak. Covid is unusual because the death rate, by age, is roughly equivalent to the average death rate for all other items in aggregate. The curves are similar. Where the Spanish Flu nearly wiped out a very young generation of people, this has been merely opportunistic - taking out primarily "at risk" people - people who we can take some precautions for while continuing to do business and engage a relatively normal social life (even if it's with masks - or not, up to you). Sorry to seem combative AVI, but the reality is I agree that numbers don't tell the WHOLE story. But they tell a lot of it. This IS dangerous. I've said that many times. But it's not so dangerous as to require mandates that are without some considerations. If they were...Cali should be Covid free by now... Well said ... It's bad for a few but for most not. And now the horse is completely out of the barn, running "wild". Contact tracing is now agreed to be impossible, and, despite the best efforts of our governor to keep up the scare here in Ohio, the disease in on the wane!
Why is everyone ignoring Dr. Pierre Kory and his statement to the senate committee. The gentlemen is very convincing , no one argues with his statements about ivermectin preventing and curing China Flue, he is just ignored.
You say that as if we can just will a cure into existence, or as if it's someone's fault that people die from this virus.
And something that was said in March is still true. Most of the people who died from this virus were almost exactly as susceptible to the flu viruses. Also, almost no one who gets this virus dies from it. I know one person first-hand who has gotten this virus and a handful of others second-hand. None of them have died. Nor do we shut down small businesses and force the entire population into quarantine because of car accidents and people joining the Armed Forces.
The Democrats set the rules for resistance. Let’s follow them.
"I know sometimes it seems we must fight, we need to get angry and push back. There certainly are times for that. I don't believe this is the time."
"But it is becoming clear to me that fascism slowly is creeping in from the Left." Those two statements from you do not compute. The fight MUST begin BEFORE the creeping in of fascism gets to far. The time is NOW I hated Trump before he was President. Now I love him...
The boomerang will hit the Left hard. Hopefully. I’ve permanently deleted my Facebook account recently (it stays active for 30 days in case you change your mind.
I left because Facebook is a fascist company that practices censorship and as such is part of the mob you mentioned. QUOTE: I know sometimes it seems we must fight, we need to get angry and push back. There certainly are times for that. I don't believe this is the time. There are better ways to get what we want and lowering ourselves to the level of the mob we saw all summer is not that way, regardless of how much the media approved of it. So if now is not the time to fight back, when would be the time? And when it is time to fight, which tactics should we use? How much of our freedom should we cede before we do something about it and how gentlemanly should we be about negotiating our re-entry into civil society? I just saw where Google and Apple are threatening to ban the free speech platform, Parler. So now fascist companies are trying to shut down companies that aren’t fascist.
Should we wait for the time when there are no open platforms to fight? "I know sometimes it seems we must fight, we need to get angry and push back. There certainly are times for that. I don't believe this is the time. There are better ways to get what we want"
Name one. Elections? Cannot ever again be won by you. Lawsuits? Can't get in the door, you are shut out. Public forum? Don't make me laugh, closed to you forever. Meanwhile, the left fights and pushes and gets absolutely everything they want, while we remain polite and get to keep nothing we had. If you don't raise the black flag now, you're raising the white one. I doubt very much you can navigate around the FB privacy issues. I don't care if you have a computer science degree from MIT and are the CIO of a fortune 500 company. If you can, then you know something that no one else on Earth does, including the software engineers at Assbook.
I have negotiated with Facebook, Amazon and Google. The only one I 'failed' with is Google. 'Failure' being they ultimately rejected my requirements for the company I worked with.
The others ultimately agreed to my terms - to the point that, upon renegotiation, they specifically requested I not be involved and that our old agreement not be referenced. I was furious that corporate went along with this...but...things happen. I am not high enough on the food chain to matter. That said, you don't have to have a computer science degree to navigate this stuff effectively. In fact, if you are on the internet there's literally NO WAY you can AVOID it. The question comes down to what are you willing to go along with and adhere to? Which is no different than what life was like prior to the internet. I can tell you stories from pre-internet media events that would have you wonder "HOW THE HELL could they do that?" But it was all happening. Data collection is nothing new. The only difference with the internet is the speed of aggregation has increased. It's faster and easier. That's the only difference. It's not more precise - not at all (UM...the only thing I'd say is if you have been getting prescriptions, then that is NOT true...CVS and a number of other firms have been sharing anonymous data for years and it is REALLY EASY to make that non-anonymous). As long as you're just doing what you do on the internet the only issue is does it bother you that they want to target you for new paint, luggage, or some other thing to buy. I've been doing this for 20 years. I know what I'm doing. Which doesn't mean I'm naive or stupid. I know how easy it is to find out WHO 'bulldog' is. But it's difficult enough that I don't bother to worry. When my wife was interested in marrying me, her ex had his computer buddies track me around the web. They knew my real name and from that were able to find 'feeblemind.' I am given to understand he had to read every comment I ever made any where.
That didn't bother me, but the fact that total strangers could dig it all up on a whim does. As you say, it must not be hard. Very interesting post, Bulldog, but while it may not be impossible for a corporation to get a decent deal from the likes of Facebook, I would say it’s impossible for an individual. And given the recent canceling that has happened in the last few days, I wonder if your experience might be different now or in the future.
I don't know what type of negotiations you are referring to in your reply, but I am curious. It sounds like we might mostly just disagree on the definition of 'navigating privacy issues." I am VERY curious to hear those "stories from pre-internet media events" about data gathering because I do think there is a difference between now and pre-internet data. Most people do not realize just how much info about themselves is available from their browser or phone. That's difficult (mostly impossible) to avoid. FB can do it without you ever having to open an account. They say it's anonymous, but that's hard to believe when you peak behind the curtain a little bit.
I appreciate your willingness to engage with commenters so thouroughly. And I apologize that my original comment may have sounded stand-offish. It wasn't my intent, but I still don't see how you navigate the privacy issues. I see people saying "the time is now". Or justifying "now" based on one thing or another.
Or that the "Democrats set the rules" making the time now. I can't go along with any of that. The vast majority of Americans are still reasonable people. What we ARE pushing back against is something which is still small and nefarious. It doesn't require lowering ourselves and allowing THEM to say WE are the problem. They control the spin, through the MSM. It's pretty bad, really - Mrs. Bulldog herself and I have already agreed to not discuss the events of Wednesday because she blames Trump and the people who did it, saying it's treasonous. I've tried to explain it's no different than last summer......to no avail. She is convinced it has reached a dangerous level, and I agree it has. But it is not about Trump or his small minority of deranged lunatic fringe followers. I point out to her the number of friends and family who we know who like Trump, even now, and recognize what he has accomplished. The fact that many more people died and much more damage done during the summer. She's having none of it. The spin is difficult to fight. BUT...it isn't really. IF you have patience and a willingness to let the Leftists eat their young. That's what they do. Let them do their thing. They turn on themselves far too quickly. They require "purity of purpose". I've warned both my boys about the people they are dealing with...that they are the targets and not to fall in so easily as they have with the SJWs. I'm not prepared to 'fight'. I have too many friends on both sides. Most are normal, aren't looking to force others to be like them. I presume most are still that way. What is happening was, oddly, predicted by the great promoter of Capitalism, Joseph Schumpeter. He predicted CORPORATIONS would push for socialism, for a variety of reasons. Not least of which was a form of social justice, but really because they'd recognize they could lock in rents (profits) by limiting and strangling innovation and opportunity. I'm not in on the "it's time to fight" yet. We still have a lot of power to make our desires known and have them implemented. I find that warlike mentality to be one of rejection of principles. You sir are a wise man!
I am troubled and often think the instinct to attack is right but then I stop myself and reflect: What does the Left do when they figure out they have the prize in their jowls? They start infighting. As you said, they will eat their young! But let's not deceive ourselves. They have pulled it all out and they are serious. The silliness of the last 48 hours -calls for 25th Amendment actions, martial law for 30 days in DC, etc., the complete lack of self awareness regarding the summer of orchestrated rioting, the tech oligarchs openly flexing their muscles - all demonstrate a totalitarian moment taking place in our midst. It's going to be ugly and this ugliness won't be done for some time ... not until the Left's fratricide gets underway in earnest. This could be many months. We do need to stay calm. We need to be conciliatory and gracious. We need to tamp down our anger. BUT we need to be perfectly clear that the Left is playing for keeps and, at this point, have completely slipped the reigns. One thing we can all do is send a note to West Virginia's Joe Manchin suggesting that a great stroke of leadership for the Republic would be for him to decide to caucus with the Republicans. It would be an incredible brake on the Left's current momentum and help cool a lot of heads. I've been looking all over. I visited Montana (and a very good friend bought land in Livingston), Wyoming and Idaho specifically for this reason. They are all lovely, but not to my tastes (Montana, really Bozeman, is LA north).
Florida, South Carolina and North Carolina remain open to consideration. Georgia died with Stacey Abrams who has caused that state to become a literal folderal of politics. She is a moron and has allowed morons to vote because we know they will vote for the paycheck from assholes like her. We are considering selling at the peak (it is happening now in suburban areas and we know we have 4-8 months) to move to someplace better. New York is a lost cause for 5-10 years. It will become a cesspool. If you looked at NYC in 1969 you may have had SOME hope - which is where people are today. But there is nothting there. No value. No benefit. Rents have to decline another 10-20% before people will reconsider NYC. AOC will be long gone. People will realize, in not too long a period of time, how they've been hoodwinked. UNLESS...the bankers and corporations make life seem "normal" and "acceptable". Schumpeter did predict all this. He knew what the outcome would be, unless we remained vigilant. Which doesn't mean "FIGHT". It just means utilize Karl Popper's POV - tolerate intolerance UNTIL it's too much. It's not there yet. (FWIW, many definitions of Popper's views exist. I believe he was one to wait for real violence to occur....which you MIGHT make a case for now. But I do not agree has occurred.) I've been looking all over. I visited Montana (and a very good friend bought land in Livingston), Wyoming and Idaho specifically for this reason. They are all lovely, but not to my tastes (Montana, really Bozeman, is LA north).
Florida, South Carolina and North Carolina remain open to consideration. Georgia died with Stacey Abrams who has caused that state to become a literal folderal of politics. She is a moron and has allowed morons to vote because we know they will vote for the paycheck from assholes like her. We are considering selling at the peak (it is happening now in suburban areas and we know we have 4-8 months) to move to someplace better. New York is a lost cause for 5-10 years. It will become a cesspool. If you looked at NYC in 1969 you may have had SOME hope - which is where people are today. But there is nothting there. No value. No benefit. Rents have to decline another 10-20% before people will reconsider NYC. AOC will be long gone. People will realize, in not too long a period of time, how they've been hoodwinked. UNLESS...the bankers and corporations make life seem "normal" and "acceptable". Schumpeter did predict all this. He knew what the outcome would be, unless we remained vigilant. Which doesn't mean "FIGHT". It just means utilize Karl Popper's POV - tolerate intolerance UNTIL it's too much. It's not there yet. (FWIW, many definitions of Popper's views exist. I believe he was one to wait for real violence to occur....which you MIGHT make a case for now. But I do not agree has occurred.) A lot of decent people and good business environment here in Ohio. Tennessee has no income tax and a LOT of growth, especially good to the east side of the state. North Carolina is lovely ... we've been thinking seriously about buying some property in the mountains ... but there's a lefty trend there that's concerning. Another very attractive place is Greenville, SC ... wonderful town with good services and well placed between the mountains and the shore. Lots of good business!
Need to work on my Popper. :-) You remind me of those pilots who rode their aircraft all the way into that smoking hole in the ground, with a tight grip on their ejection seat levers.
I always wondered what special signal they thought they would get that it was time to fire off the old Martin-Baker. Whatever it was, they never heard it. But I'm sure some part of their brains were in full denial of what was unfolding. Life lesson: It's easier to correct a problem before you run out of altitude or fuel. You wait, you die. Bulldog, even though I don't know your profession, one suggestion: Migrate! :-)
The lands west of the Alleghanies are full of people not quite as foolish (yet) as those in the greater NYC area. And there is still some decent economic activity out yonder that might benefit from ye skills! New evidence of a stolen election. This time it implicates a foreign country AND the CIA.
https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2021/01/maria-zack-italy-did-it-arturo-delia-admits-to-stealing-lecton-3738971.html I think 'Fascism' is the wrong word to use for a political philosophy being led by a tottering, senile old hack who can't string a coherent sentence together. The means of production, political thinking, and faith have not been harnessed for the purpose of furthering the state.
In many ways, the opposite has happened: The modern means of communication and the conducting of business have been wrested away from the government, the people, and the business world, and hijacked by a tyrannical class who are determined to set the controlling tone in all human transactions - not just political, but social, personal, business, industrial, educational. It's good that this is happening now. Many can see the instability of this arrangement, the fundamental wrongness of the power of censorship and personal cancellation being placed in the hands of a small group of radical tyrants. The Progressive political class is merely aligning themselves to this, seeking power levers. The Conservatives are feeling quite a bit of pain as a result. It is great timing; Conservatives have 2 years to get alternatives in place, or perish. Don't be expecting someone else to do it for you. Meanwhile, in the past day, almost 2 weeks before the inauguration, the President's megaphone has been taken away permanently, and the President-elect has sent clear signals regarding his infirmities and his intention to go after the NRA and your guns. Democrats, rather than celebrating a win, are scrambling to see if they can squeeze in another impeachment and force a conviction to prevent Trump from begin able to run again. This is Your Government in action, in service to the voters and taxpayers. The tone has gotten worse by an order of magnitude in the past week, and it was at a record-bad all summer long. If you don't understand what is happening, I'll tell you. Your world is getting a whole lot smaller. Some years ago I invented an acronym at the ANTI-IDIOTARIAN ROTTWEILER site. It seems to have caught on.
TWANLOC Those Who Are No Longer Our Countrymen. Subotai Bahadur I have seen you over at BC for years. You are one of the names I look for when I scroll through the sea of comments there looking for worthwhile ones to read.
I wish you would comment more here. Operation Canned Goods complete .
Operation Tannenberg commencing . I not as smart or well spoken as the above post but let me say I fear for the future of this country.
In my 77 years I have never seen such hate to the level of evil The political parties are destroying this country and leading us to a system that has failed or is failing such as the U S S R etc Trump tried but it was more than he could handle Is it to late? Government of the people for the people by the people Is that true still? Trumps personal is just an excuse. The left has been planning a fascist style takeover for decades, moving the Chicago model national.
Chicago has not had a Republican mayor for 100 years. Check back on me for the Presidential time frame in 2120. "But it is becoming clear to me that fascism slowly is creeping in from the Left. Mindful of this, we need to be careful that we don't fall into that same trap." Slowly? Creeping? It's more like FULL SPEED AHEAD.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Because its safer on the other side! Calm, in any sense of the word, is the last thing the elitists are interested in restoring: look at how effective they've been at using chaos and crisis - real or imagined - to divide us against each other. Some lessons have to be learned the hard way, as my colleagues found out when this was imposed on them three decades ago.
In the meantime, they're dealing with their own protracted and bloody power struggle. Combine that with the intellectual, moral and political bankruptcy of their ideology, and you get something dangerous in the short term, but offering substantial opportunity further out. Will they destroy things in the mea time? No doubt: look at how they've destroyed the cities over the past couple of generations, for example. Yet they cannot sustain themselves in the long term. It is no accident that WalkAway was the first target: the only thing worse than a Deplorable is a fool (i.e. not a Deplorable) who escapes the mental gulag. The problem is that persecuting such people typically only tends increase their number. Clearly, the Republican Party's non-response to this is evidence that they are the more bankrupt of the two factions of elitists. It will be easier to make that a "clean corporate shell" to reform than any of the other options. The best strategy is to do this calmly and deliberately, mindful of the old fable we no longer tell abou a boy who climbed a tree to allow te predators to devour each other, and then enjoyed a feast. I'm sure some of us remember that one. If you want to do a very important job right now then please do this: find experts in the field of rhetoric and indoctrination and post the links to MF. Help us understand how they have done it. How have they turned loving spouses and friends into screaming anti trumpets? I can understand friends screaming at each other in political confrontation. I cannot understand how the individuals on the left become so indoctrinated that they rage at loved ones. How--what techniques exactly--have been used to create this situation? You have access to several psychologists who can help you isolate the material and post it here. They might also help in creating response mechanisms that will help tamp down that rage!
I wish I was smart enough to figure out who Bulldog really is. You're darn near as interesting as Bird Dog and Conan the Libertarian.
"I'm not in on the "it's time to fight" yet. We still have a lot of power to make our desires known and have them implemented." No we don't. Maybe it's not time for public hangings in Boston Common yet, but it's sure as hell time to start pushing back against the proverbial thousand cuts that have been inflicted upon us over the past fifty years. Our culture has turned into a freak show. Facism isn't "Creeping" its coming at us in a dead sprint.
Me? I'm brushing up on my Mandarin, and preparing to present my credentials at the nearest Chinese consulate.
I don't see many other options. |