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Saturday, October 31. 2020
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The most absurd thing about this is that every jurisdiction has an absentee process in place, and that the procedures easily could have been amended to include a proviso for epidemics. Connecticut did this, and given how typically difficult it is to get Connecticut to do anything simple, it should have been easy for everybody else, with the possible exceptions of New York and California.
Of course, that would not have been in keeping with the melodramatics typical of establishment politics, these days.
I agree. I think the Democrats were promoting mail in voting for cheating and for chaos. If they don’t win through cheating, chaos provides another opportunity.
I think they backed off mail in voting when they figured the complexity (that you described) also made it in imperfect cheating vehicle but a significant number of mail in votes still provides plenty of opportunities for chaos (remember Florida in 2000).
Confusion, chaos, and fraud is the whole purpose of mail in voting. My guess is the difficulty with the instructions is intentional.
The dirty girls from Seattle have moved in to my hometown. Forced many of the older women, who had for years manned the voting booths, out of their jobs. They brought in a new Voting administrator from out of state and she is a well trained automaton. Can manage and control any conversation. Promised that voter integrity was "Absolutely assured". However, at the last minute she forced the largest voting center to move into a small building where the lines were catastrophic and the last minute news/driving directions were too late for many voters to have. Then on top of it all there was on election day "A computer problem" which was not detected until people started feeding the ballots into the machines. When enough poll watchers came forward with evidence of fraud our "progressive Republican/get along with everyone compromising Atty General would not file a case. So what do you think is going to happen here next week. Don't forget this is the state that Trump really tried to take out the old timer D senator (Tester) he failed by a few and the guy is still in office. It is very easy to predict what "the deal has been worked out" is.
Here is my projection:
new governor R business man Gianforte
new state congresswoman Liberal D Kathy Murray
the only position that is un predictable is whether or not the 2nd Senate seat which is currently filled with a Republican was sold to the Democrats in order to get the governorship. My gut tells me it was.
so now DNC officials will know exactly who you voted for. They'll keep track of that to ensure they know precisely who need to be the first people to go into the reeducation camps when the time comes.
And they'll no doubt also have records of who's registered Republicans so it's that much easier to "lose" their ballots to prevent them being counted.
I have been expecting mail-in voting to go poorly for the Democrat's typical low information, and this year low enthusiasm, voters for some time.
Early in-person voting in Kentucky opened on 13 October. I voted on the 15th.
My intelligent but rabidly anti-Trump wife requested an absentee ballot and received it a couple of weeks ago. Last week she asked if I knew where it was. Yesterday she finally voted in person.
Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, it's Jersey! Whadayaexpect?????????
“If it’s not close they can’t cheat” or whatever that line is.
I live in Illinois. People who doubt that stuffing ballot boxes is a real thing are just so darn precious!
I am voting in person on election day.
My intelligent but rabidly Trump hating wife has voted by mail.
I thought it was illegal to not allow in person voting on election day. Without it, how can you say you had an "election day" which is, I believe, required by law.
New Jersey really, really sucks.
As with the "hanging chads" fiasco, with a ballot designed by Dems to cause confusion, which only their lawyers and multiple recounts could sort out, ...in their favor, of course.
Bulldog, I agree that NJ Ballot wasn't difficult, but, it certainly isn't foolproof either. And, a lot of voters are fools!
I also suspect that a lot of ballots will be thrown out due to some "technicalities." Makes me wonder if it isn't on purpose to make it confusing for some voters.
As for "no voting in person in NJ", I believe that is not a totally accurate statement. In my county anyway, they are allowing in person voting; But, it will not be at the usual polling places - the polling places will be very limited. And, they are open only for either dropping off the mailed-out ballot or for filling in a "provisional" paper form that they will be providing there. So, an accurate statement is that in-person voting is allowed; but, it is so curtailed that it may not be worth trying.
Lastly, I believe the Democrats are trying to make things so "not foolproof" so that when Biden loses they can claim that he was cheated.
I was told "we have in person voting" here in my county, too.
Except it's not really in person. You fill out the mail in ballot, bring it to the polling station (you are correct, it is not the usual ones) and hand it in "in person".
That's the extent of NJ "in person" voting....not really "in person".
I submitted my vote in NJ a week ago - along with my wife and 19 year old son voting for the first time.
As with your experience I too spent a lot of time reviewing the confusing instructions. I also dropped it off at an official "ballot box" as I don't trust the postal service.
The only good thing: we all received a card in the mail this week confirming that they received our vote. So at least I know it didn't get "lost."
At the end of Early Voting yesterday, the number of Texans who had voted was 108.3% of the total 2016 votes (Early, Absentee, and Election Day).
Nationally, the number is 67.7%. Check it out:
This year the turnout is going to be astonishing by the end of Election Day.
faculty wife @4: Those concerns are why I believe that each state's National Guard ought to be in charge of ballot security. They could provide credible chain-of-custody, or at least more credible than the partisans currently managing the process.
In Pennsylvannia we have in person voting, as a Poll watcher it should be interesting. I attended a training session on Saturday and was told the mail in ballots are coming in 3-1 democratic. I believe most Republicans want to vote in person. We have also been instructed to watch around 8:00 p.m. to insure the line is closed, anyone coming in after will be turned away. There is talk that the Govenor could extend the time to 9:00. If that is the case then anyone after 8:00 can only vote provisionally. There is an Army of republican lawyers at the ready. I will stay for the count after closing, eyes on, is a deterrant for monkey business. They are saying in PA three days to two weeks for results in Presidential race. Should be interesting.
Here's the other problem with it and this is personal experience. Your mail carrier can decide that you no longer receive mail at your address. I found out about it when they called me from work and told me that my pay stub had been returned. The mail carrier kept delivering mail to that address for people that had moved out years ago. (We kept marking the envelopes "not at this address). But I was the only person at the address getting conservative material. The supervisor told me that this is perfectly acceptable. I told him that I would report them for voter suppression if it happened again. The Post Office has no business dealing with your vote.
I mailed-in my ballot. But I had to laugh at the nonsense propositions which were presented. They had issues like "Is strawberry your favorite flavor of ice cream?" and "Should the city install more fire hydrants?"
Besides the Presidential election, there was nothing to vote on.
You know what they say, if elections could change anything, they'd be illegal.