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Saturday, September 12. 2020

Political QQQ

Via Instapundit:


 “Charges of Imperialism would be more supportable if America regarded the world as a prize to be won rather than a nuisance to be tolerated.”

Posted by The Barrister in Quotidian Quotable Quote (QQQ) at 14:19 | Comments (7) | Trackbacks (0)

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The Election to End All Elections - Claremont Review of Books
by Angelo M. Codevilla

QUOTE:
Though reelecting Trump makes the republic’s survival possible, and preserves all manner of good options, it guarantees nothing. Trump’s defeat guarantees disaster . . .

. . . Consider the 2020 election. In July, the Democratic National Committee engaged some 600 lawyers to litigate the outcome, possibly in every state. No particular outcome of such litigations is needed to set off a systemic crisis. The existence of the litigations themselves is enough for one or more blue state governors to refuse to certify that state’s electors to the Electoral College, so as to prevent the college from recording a majority of votes for the winner. In case no winner could be confirmed by January’s Inauguration Day, the 20th Amendment provides that Congress would elect the next president. Who doubts that, were Donald Trump the apparent winner, and were Congress in Democratic hands, that this would be likelier than not to happen?

https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-finger-in-the-dike-election/
#1 feeblemind on 2020-09-12 14:41 (Reply)
Trump's "defeat" will guarantee a HOT civil war!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1.1 Mark Matis on 2020-09-12 15:19 (Reply)
Western expansion into uncivilized areas of the earth was never "Imperialism". Those conquered peoples always got a good deal. Did a lot of them die? Yes. But at the same time, their birth rate went-up because of Western food and medicine. There is not one former colony in the whole world who would give-up what they have received. Not one. India, China, Brazil, Indonesia; the list of countries modernized by the West is endless.

People who use the term "Imperialism" are trying to claim that former colonies were "injured" by Capitalism, or Technology, or Western Culture. But those claims have no basis in reality. Not many Africans in the West go back to Africa. The term "Imperialism" is use by the left as an accusation of forced integration into the world order. And usually, that's true. Imperialism is the act of educating savage people, so that they can improve their lives. Nobody who has a choice would live like an American Indian, or an African hunter, or an Eskimo in his igloo. Imperialism is education, along with enculturation, pluralism, and economics. It's the best thing that could ever happen to a country.
#2 Ron Liebermann on 2020-09-12 15:20 (Reply)
I don't often agree with Ron (too brittle), but he gets this right.

When the Soviets left various Latin American countries because they no longer had the money, the US left as well, letting them make their own decisions, good or bad, left or right. We have some bad history of preserving trading rights by force and even supporting oppressive bastards, but not with an order of magnitude of the USSR. We want to trade. Sometimes we cheat, but we generally don't want to rule, just trade. Everyone wins.

Whether we were right or wrong to go to war in Iraq they make their own decisions now. That's how we roll. Ditto Japan. Ditto Germany. Ditto South Korea. Ditto Grenada, El Salvador, Cuba, Haiti, everyone. Eastern Europe resented that we didn't intervene more. Less true of the UK, but they also were more traders than rulers.
#2.1 Assistant Village Idiot on 2020-09-12 17:39 (Reply)
Thomas Sowell says (Race and Culture), that the imperial nations lost more than they gained from their empires, even before the immigration invasions.

This Irishman begs to differ about the Brits.
#2.1.1 DeGaulle on 2020-09-12 19:42 (Reply)
How many people in the First World (developed world) speak or read Irish? The Irish (Eire) may never wish to acknowledge this, but they & the country have benefitted greatly by being part of the anglosphere.

It was long since time for Britain to go, but that's what happens when your country is physically close to an aristocracy-led society.
#2.1.1.1 PubliusII on 2020-09-12 20:44 (Reply)
No other country helped those it defeated (Japan, Germany, Italy) to recover after WWII like the US. No country has given so much in aid around the world. For the most part, the US did not get in the business of having colonies (which is imperialism). Most of the claim is based on countries eagerly adopting our customs, technology, music etc. We did not force them.
#3 cc (Link) on 2020-09-12 17:50 (Reply)

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