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Tuesday, September 17. 2019

Your US Social Security Card

A US Social Security card is specifically not to be used for identification. All it means is that you are enrolled in a forced government retirement program. They are easily and frequently faked. So I am confused. 


Does anyone have one anymore? Of course, I have a number. But a card? That little piece of paper? That little piece of paper that you are not allowed to laminate?  Are you kidding me? I always thought that thing was just to inform me about my gummint number. Why didn't they tattoo it on my forearm, or implant me with an ID chip?


Guess what? You need the card to get your REAL ID driver's license.  And in 2020, everybody who is legit will need a REAL ID license. Only illegals will have trouble getting that.


To get your card, go to the Social Security website, fill out the form, and print it out. Then you have to go in person to a local SS office with other ID info and they will eventually mail you a replacement card.


Then, with your brand new SS card, you can go to your DMV, wait in line, and get your REAL ID license. Fun.


I do not mind much that the US wants to determine who is legit and who is not, but who can take off work time for this gummint BS? Time is money. Really, at this point the gummint knows everything about me anyway.


 I already spent an hour getting my TSA Pre-check number. That cost me money - $85 plus loss of billable hours. Global Entry? That's even more of a hassle.  I'd like to have it, but take a day off from work to get it? Not gonna happen. Alas, I just do not spend that much time in airports.

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I've got a card - had it since the '60s, so far as I can remember. Do they not give them out automatically any more?
#1 Lincoln Annie on 2019-09-17 15:23 (Reply)
Good grief. You still have that thing? It must be disintegrating by now.
#1.1 Bird Dog on 2019-09-17 15:35 (Reply)
I am 62 still have my original SS ID. In fact, got my real ID from the DMV the day after Dorian went by... the place was empty. Called my wife and she got one too.
#1.1.1 Jim Bob on 2019-09-18 05:43 (Reply)
I'm 56 and still have mine. Gotta keep track of your papers.
#2 D on 2019-09-17 15:49 (Reply)
Ditto here... I'm 58 and I got my card when I started a paper route in 1976. The signature is rather childlike, but hey, I was 16. Got my real ID earlier this month... in my state a passport is an acceptable alternative to having your SSN card. I've got Global Entry too... but the Global Entry card wasn't good enough and I still needed to show my electric and water bill at the DMV. Amazing.
#2.1 Sorenk on 2019-09-19 07:22 (Reply)
Think I got my card at age 10 when working in family store. It is laminated otherwise would not have lasted 65 years. Needed it last week for real id, in people’s republic of Maryland you make an appointment...got in and out in 15 minutes. Got global entry 3 years ago and that was no problem, just brief interview.
#3 Dave c on 2019-09-17 16:26 (Reply)
I'm 67 and have my original paper SS card that's not laminated and is in good condition. I'm in Maryland too and had the same pleasant experience at the DMV getting my RealID license.
#3.1 TonyW on 2019-09-18 10:12 (Reply)
Not only do my wife and I have our cards, but we have them for each of our teenagers, too.
#4 Dangerous Dean on 2019-09-17 16:26 (Reply)
I still have my card and have to use it whenever I start a new job or my employer(s) have to let me go after 3 days :/

And PSA-- for Global Entry you can do the interview when you return from your next international fight after passing through the customs check. Did that a few months ago on my way back from South America during a layover, was no trouble at all and took less than 45 minutes including wait time
#5 jolizbish on 2019-09-17 16:28 (Reply)
Do all of our readers have OCD? Sheesh.
#6 Bird Dog on 2019-09-17 16:40 (Reply)
We may not all have OCD, but it's easier to hold on to such things than to try to get them replaced.
#6.1 CT on 2019-09-17 16:49 (Reply)
I am in my 70's and still have my original card I got at age 18 in order to work. I have also had (more than 1?) card with my married name on it. Have lived all over the U.S. and am a little OCD about not having official papers if I need them. (Also lived overseas for about 3 years.)
#7 CT on 2019-09-17 16:46 (Reply)
I lost my SS card decades ago, but I clearly recall that it read "Not for Identification". I've decided not to get "Real ID". If somebody dies and I have to fly somewhere, the TSA will just have to vet me some other way. Maybe I can show them my DD 214?
#8 snopercod on 2019-09-17 17:01 (Reply)
No - it will be required for driver's license.
#8.1 Bird Dog on 2019-09-17 17:03 (Reply)
Let me tell you a story. Five years ago my family flew to Anchorage, AK on vacation. My son went four-wheeling with a guy and they managed to submerge the jeep in an icy river. They both lost their cell phones, and wallets. The next day, I spoke to a TSA supervisor at Anchorage Airport and asked him how my son was going to get home with no ID. The supervisor replied, "No problem. Just have him show up 2 hrs. early and we'll do a background check on him. He'll have to get the full pat down, and that's it." I figure the same deal will apply next year.
#8.1.1 snopercod on 2019-09-17 18:26 (Reply)
Wife and I moved to new state last November. I got a new drivers license about 4-5 months ago. Had the choice of a real ID license or a non real ID license. As my Soc. Sec. card disappeared decades ago I offered to show my passport which has my Soc. Sec. number in it. No go...so I got a non real ID instead. To work as an aircraft mechanic at an international airport after 9-11 required a passport, FBI background check, and fingerprints...but no Soc. Sec. card. Go figure how government works...or doesn't.
#8.1.2 indyjonesouthere on 2019-09-17 19:22 (Reply)
After a lifetime of corporate travel and living all over the world, my friend did not want to renew his passport, so we went to get him a Real ID. It was during the week, and the center was not busy. Took half an hour at most. As for me, I travel to Canada at least twice a year, so I got a NEXUS card. Others line up for hours in the summer to cross the border in their cars, and I never have to wait. Worth it. Requires an interview at an airport, true, but because I already had Global Entry, it was no big deal to do this add on. I am teased for nagging everybody to get a Nexus card which is now termed, "Nexual harassment."
#9 Missy on 2019-09-17 17:18 (Reply)
Mrs. Mudbug and I both have ours. We also have our 36 year old daughter's. I've never had to use it other than know the number. When I was in high school, a friend who was in college said his college ID number was his social security number. He was aware that that was strictly illegal but didn't seem to be worried. That was long before identity theft.

Real ID... I have to admit that I was either unaware of them or had forgotten about them. If they would be required to vote, I'd be ecstatic but you know there's SOMETHING racist about having to identify yourself when your actual identity is important.
#10 mudbug on 2019-09-17 17:23 (Reply)
I got my card at about age 14. I carried it in my wallet for years. The card and my wallet were washed several times, which kinda faded and wrinkled the card.

I think my mom has it now. Anyhow she offered to send it to me awhile back, but I don't think she ever did. She has my birth certificate too.
#11 feeblemind on 2019-09-17 17:36 (Reply)
I used to get asked for my SS# every time I bought anything. Then, pretty quick, that morphed into my Drivers License #. And then Cabela's felt they needed my name and phone # whenever I bought ammunition (I always pay cash for that). For all of them I just make up numbers and names on the spot. The clerks, of course, don't care one way or the other so it's become just another game we play.
#12 Dennis on 2019-09-17 18:26 (Reply)
I got an Soc. Sec. card in the '60s when I was a teenager. Still have it.

I also have TSA PreCheck. Never applied for it. Never paid a dime. It just showed up one day. It showed up after I took a trip to D.C. for an I.T. conference and stayed in the Willard Hotel, about 2 blocks from the White House. One morning I got up and opened the door to see infrared lasers on the floor of the corridor such that anyone walking out of their room would trip one of of them and 3 very serious looking people in white shirts, blue blazers, gray dress pants and cop-on-the-beat black shoes standing in such fashion that you couldn't move out of your door without 2 different people having eyes on you. I'm thinking that somebody important was staying on that floor and they checked the background of everyone on that floor. And gave me TSA PreCheck when I checked out.
#13 RonF on 2019-09-17 19:36 (Reply)
I think frequent flyers were automatically enrolled in pre-check for a while. I know that my wife and I would sometimes get a pre-check authorization on our boarding passes if we'd flown several times in the recent past.
#13.1 Christopher B on 2019-09-18 09:08 (Reply)
"Not to be used as an ID." = "You can keep your doctor."

FDR lied through his teeth, just as Obama lied through his.

We need to revisit the history of FDR's serial administrations. He came from NY Banking money and married an avowed socialist.

His war-time administration was riddled with Soviet spies, and he (wink-wink, nudge-nudge) favored big government as much as Stalin and Hitler did. He just wanted to command its design and implementation in America. I believe he'd have been a relentless traitor to our country if he'd lived to meddle in our Cold War with his Russo mates.

"Roosevelt was betrayed by Stalin at Yalta." or so I was taught in High School. They disliked each other right? Wouldn't work together ever, right?

He was charismatic, too. Which was total BS, and the presses' dress rehearsal for their gestating Camelot myths surrounding JFK.

The fact that he is still lionized by so many silver-haired blue-gummers in the country says so much about the gullibility of our "greatest generation" and the power of the education bureaucracy to frame personalities for the public long after the damage is done.

Even so-called Conservative Arizona named its largest lake after him. Why not name a mountain range for Robert Mugabe, another great central planner, while we're at it?

To get red-pilled on FDR, just spend ten minutes at Diana West's blog, American Betrayal (TLTL). Her implacable investigation reveals much that the DNC and MSM will never, ever touch, and her conclusions should make any freedom-loving patriot's blood boil.

We are all Socialists now! Ugh!
#14 steveaz on 2019-09-17 20:23 (Reply)
I would like to know how the political party that protects my social security benefits from evil republicans that want to take those benefits away has taken away 90% of my social security benefits. nobody ever says anything about it either not democrats, not republicans, not the media, not the unions.
#15 tommy mc donnell (Link) on 2019-09-17 21:22 (Reply)
Tommy,
Hint, hint: save for your own retirement, and leave me out of it!

Hint, hint, hint: retirement doesn't really exist. It's a made up word.

Hint, hint, hint, hint: Remember Al Gore's "Lock Box Promise?" That's your clue that it's a sham fund - Big Gov has already spent your s.s. takings. That leaves you banking on stealing from the younger generations' seized income to ensure yours.

We'd call it theft if it didn't cross generational lines. 'Might want to look to that!
#16 steveaz on 2019-09-17 21:36 (Reply)
I've have the original since 1962.
#17 jack on 2019-09-17 22:34 (Reply)
Al Gore invented Social Security.
#18 Mister Sunbeam on 2019-09-18 03:50 (Reply)
I still have my original SSN card from 1964. It’s in my wallet and carried everywhere with me. It’s still in almost new condition. I was a Boy Scout, back when that meant something, and take care of what I was taught was an important document. I’m not alone - my wife also has her original SSN card from the 60’s too.
#19 Steve on 2019-09-18 09:16 (Reply)
Quote:

Below are five things you should (almost) NEVER carry around in a purse or wallet:

Social Security Card (or any piece of paper with the SSN written on it): This is one of the biggest mistakes, and generates many calls to the ITRC.wallet Identity theft springing from a stolen social security card carried in a wallet or purse is among the most common ways people become victims.

https://www.idtheftcenter.org/5-things-you-should-never-carry-in-your-wallet/
#19.1 CT on 2019-09-18 20:04 (Reply)
So in order to get an official government ID from the government you have to present something that's NOT an official government ID to the government that you got from that same government at some indeterminate point in the past and even the government themselves admit is so easy to fake it should not be trusted as an ID?

Sounds typical.
#20 JTW on 2019-09-18 09:26 (Reply)
Yup, still have mine, issued in 1978. Have that one, with my maiden name, and the one issued by the SSA office when I got married in 1998. Both in my wallet, along with my daughter's issued when she was born in 2002. Not that heard--you stick them in plastic sleeve that comes with a wallet and leave them there until the end of time.

But you do not need it to get a Real ID, it is only one of the choices. You an substitute a certified copy of your birth certificate.
#21 Cathy J on 2019-09-18 11:22 (Reply)
There are millions of fake Social Security cards in circulation, which Mexicans use to sign-up for government programs. They illegally receive billions of dollars this way. The only answer is to cancel all S.S. Cards; and then require each applicant show-up for an in-person interview.
#22 Ron B Liebermann on 2019-09-18 18:09 (Reply)
Barrister, the gummint knows everything about you, but a lot of it isn't accurate.

I don't know if that makes me less paranoid, or more.
#23 Assistant Village Idiot on 2019-09-19 08:11 (Reply)

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