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Monday, October 15. 2018
Will Rogers was one of the most interesting men of his generation (1879-1935), which is saying something indeed. His bio says he was a "stage and motion picture actor, vaudeville performer, American cowboy, humorist, newspaper columnist, and social commentator." There are a lot of people in contemporary society who have gained notoriety trying one or two of those descriptors. Every actor is a social commentator now, for instance. However, as far as I know, Will Rogers was alive in the 1930s, but only acknowledged that Hitler was Hitler. He didn't have a laundry list of Hitlers ready for awards ceremony speeches. And he had the guy's number as early as 1933:
As far as newspaper columnists go these days, none have the resume of Will Rogers. I'm fairly certain George Will was never a cowboy, for instance.
There was a bedrock of observation and wisdom behind the gossamer jibes, but never any malice. I know of no comedian today that could claim that. Malice is on the marquee these days. But malice doesn't last, I think. Malice appeals to the mob, and the mob gets tired from rioting and heads on home when their torches start to smolder and their pitchforks get heavy. No one will quote Amy Schumer in the year 2100. No one quotes her now, and I don't think she'll ripen none in the interim. Anyway, I decided to see if Will Rogers wisdom still applies to the news today. I report, you decide:
There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.
We are the first nation to starve to death in a storehouse that's overfilled with everything we want.
Letting the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than putting it back.
When you get into trouble 5,000 miles from home, you’ve got to have been looking for it.
"Don’t gamble"; take all your savings and buy some good stock, and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don’t go up, don’t buy it.
Half our life is spent trying to find something to do with the time we have rushed through life trying to save.
Never miss a good chance to shut up.
Advertising makes you spend money you haven't got for things you don't want.
When the Judgment Day comes civilization will have an alibi, "I never took a human life, I only sold the fellow the gun to take it with."
We hold the distinction of being the only nation that is goin' to the poorhouse in an automobile.
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.
Have a great Monday everybody!
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The brown shirts and the black shirts didn't cover their faces like the KKK, did they?
Have you seen the headline and photo on Drudge of “Chaos in Portland”. I don't know how long it will be up so I took a screen shot of it. The protestors are dressed in black and their faces are concealed with black scarves. What the hell. Are these people channeling ISIS?
I can't believe this is for real? Talk about lack of self awareness and/or history. Is Trump funding these people under a “false flag” operation.
It would be interesting to follow the money. I've heard that a lot of it comes from Soros - whether true or not I don't know. But that SOB's made good money off destabilizing countries and economies before. (And without any proof, I think he was behind the 2010 Flash Crash - though that 'officially' pointed at Navinder Singh Sarao...)
The best way to look at it is 'Who benefits' or gets the most out of their action? The Dems may think they benefit from AntiFa's actions. The Repubs look at them and go "Holy shit". Regular folks look at them and go "WTF?"
So - I don't know, but it seems the left would think it has more to gain from the 'Resistance' and AntiFa than Trump would.
We are the first nation to starve to death in a storehouse that's overfilled with everything we want.
Enabled by our unquestioning fealty to the Corporation. There is perhaps no greater failure of education and popular culture than where they misidentify corporatism as the free market.
I have a left wing friend who is always putting down capitalism (and corporations). he is particularly down on Walmart (as all the left wing nuts are) and since he is a vegan (surprise) he is also down on American supermarkets. After one of his emails denigrating the country, corporations and our food I happened to go to the supermarket that day and the display of fresh fruit and vegetables was simply stunning. So I took a picture and emailed it to him asking how can you complain about the abundance available to everyone thanks to corporations like Safeway. Needless to say he found a way to complain anyway. Radical liberalism is a sickness. That is the only possible explanation.
A binary rant befitting a small child, Anon, not that you ever disappoint in that category. I used to ponder how the intractably ignorant arm of the right so thoroughly gave away an entire nation. Then you remind me.
I read your linked article. My question is, how is this any different than the entire history of the world? The wealthy have always had more influence in governance than us peons. Show me a country that isn’t an oligarchy, as defined by that article?
Are corporations that employe 20 people bad? How about 90? At what number of employees are they evil? Or is it just about the amount of influence they try and buy? The type of influence they try and buy? If a billion dollar vegan corporation tried to buy influence, and change laws to outlaw meat, would they be angelic?
That's two fallacies even before you got to the obligatory vegans.
Go sit with Anon and Idiot.
Only two? I’m pretty dense, can you at least point out which two? It can’t be the rich ruling the world.
Should folks identify corporatism for bystanders too, Hammer? I just want to understand the rules governing being nicely guided into a false position by folks who don't particularly care enough for the topic to grasp it. Two of us wailing on a single fiction makes even less sense than one of you doing it.
And I think it may have been three fallacies, not two...
You might have to define what ‘you’ mean by corporatism. I see Pope Leo XIII, sent forth great thinkers to find the definition for it in 1881: “system of social organization that has at its base the grouping of men according to the community of their natural interests and social functions, and as true and proper organs of the state they direct and coordinate labor and capital in matters of common interest.”
I don’t see why you would rail against that. I assumed, that you are talking about cooperate money buying political favor. The first paragraph in your linked article, said that very thing. Which is a huge problem, but one that there doesn’t seem to be a solution to. America, was a good ideal, but she was founded by rich landowners. Which is not a bad thing, they did try and set up a government that resisted the mob mentality of direct democracy, but I’m not seeing how they got rid of the corrupting influence of the wealthy owning politicians. It has worked rather well, government for the people by the people, and it has gotten off track a bit, but I’m not seeing how it is solely do to corporate organization.
Your second paragraph shows your opinion on the matter. It does not clarify and it certainly does not argue. You have opinions and like all lost opinions, it hinges on a fallacy involving best cases, as you see them. X cannot be wrong because we all know Y is worse.
And your first paragraph: That's the one you further distance yourself from the obvious definition of the word. I assume there's a reason for that.
Yes, all corporations are bad, except the ones that aren't.
Making it easy for you to choose whatever data you want, while living in a wealthy country.
You too, Idiot? Do you regularly find that a quip from you roundly defines reality, or is that instinct reacting?
You are doing good work Roger! You bring a refreshing change.
I was raised on Will Rogers stories--my family loved that man.
“Be thankful we’re not getting all the government we’re paying for” I don’t know about that one. We got government involvement in every aspect of our lives. Name something that doesn’t have a government regulation? Good luck. Plus we got secret government cabals that we don’t even know about. Example: Mueller investigation. Forgot that was still on going, right?
I have never put an app on my phone. After I got the phone I deleted everything/apps I wasn't familiar with. Went on a 6 week trip a few weeks ago and left my phone at home. My niece was stunned speechless when she heard that. I fully recognize the value of a phone but I also recognize the negatives. I have seen people walk into traffic while texting, drive off the road, trip and fall, and of course miss something important simply because they are looking at the phone. I consider the phone a tool like a hammer and I don't carry a hammer with me either.
My understanding from more than one source, is that Rogers in person was a jerk. He was a great performer/personality on stage. Not so much off stage.
I've heard from more that one source the someone named Gary is a jerk. He isn't even a good performer/personality on stage. Life's lesson: we're all jerks in some way or another.
I just finished reading "Killing Reagan". I was surprised at the amount of picayune negative gossip was inserted into the book. Why? I guess either the author(s) didn't like him or they needed to fill out the book some more. Stupid he said she said stuff from ex's and assumptions gleaned from Hollywood gossip.
So I tend to question everything said or written about public people.
Those who are famous for something are not necessarily famous for being good people or good parents. If Will Rogers was as you describe him, he joined a long list of people whose private persona fell short of their public persona.
My favortie Rogers quote:
"I don't belong to any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Except today you can replace Democrat with Republican.
“My forefathers didn't come over on the Mayflower, but they met the boat.”
WHAT?! A Massachusetts hospital defrauded the government? AGAIN?! Hahahahaha—I'm trying to feel shocked.