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Monday, February 5. 2018

How much of college is wasted?

It depends on what college is for, and it seems to have many purposes these days including that of a long adolescent vacation. With coeducation, a heck of a lot of undergrad higher ed seems social and recreational. I have nothing against climbing walls or sex, however. Within reason, but is anything with adolescents within reason?

IS HALF OF COLLEGE EDUCATION WASTED?

Posted by The Barrister in Education at 15:57 | Comments (8) | Trackbacks (0)

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No , half of the students show up wasted on any given day .

#1 treefroggy on 2018-02-05 16:09 (Reply)

Half of it is learning to be an adult in a safe place...getting yourself up in the morning, staying on top of homework, figuring out how to deal with crummy roommates, etc.

The other half is actually working for my kids...learning how to think for themselves and debate. Yes, it is still out there, folks. I have had more intelligent conversations with my kids since they went to college than I ever did when they were at home.

Great place to stretch their wings, find their place.

#2 MissT on 2018-02-05 16:55 (Reply)

QUOTE:

How much of college is wasted?

Half of everything is wasted (given good management) — Third Law of Waste.

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It depends on what college is for, and it seems to have many purposes these days including that of a long adolescent vacation.

For much of history, a college education was for class signaling and networking with others of the upper classes. If you could say a few phrases in Greek or Latin, people thought you belonged in the upper classes, and treated you accordingly, especially if you were on a first name basis with the heir to the Baron Fitzwater or the now Earl of Devon.

#3 Zachriel on 2018-02-05 17:43 (Reply)

College is all about preparing a young person for life as an employee.
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If you want of nation of renters, debtors and employees, our university system is great, until it collapses.

http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=1559

#4 drowningpuppies on 2018-02-05 18:41 (Reply)

Jordan Petersons piece on what every student should hear is probably the defining point of what a student should learn in university...being immersed in western civilization and learning to think and making the world a better place. That is no longer a part of university life. His other recommendation was trade school...opt for a good trade at this time in the education institutions.

#5 indyjonesouthere on 2018-02-05 19:13 (Reply)

Perhaps it's like the famous quote about advertising. "Half of advertising is worthless; you just don't know which half."

#6 Terry on 2018-02-05 22:16 (Reply)

Bingo!

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#6.1 Zachriel on 2018-02-06 08:37 (Reply)

A typical BA is 120 credit hours. Also typically, only 60 of those are core hours. The rest are electives and other stuff to "round out" your liberal arts education.

So by definition, half of it is useless.

A masters program is 60 hours these days, and is largely vocational. Given how far academic standards have dropped, this is probably a better model for what a BA/BS should be.

#7 Don on 2018-02-06 03:10 (Reply)

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