European borders

Quicksearch

Blog Administration

Open login screen

RSS Readers

Monday, March 17. 2014

Constantly changing. The Crimea was part of Russia until Stalin.

Posted by The Barrister at 16:21 | Comments (5) | Trackbacks (0)

Trackbacks

Trackback specific URI for this entry

No Trackbacks

Comments

Display comments as (Linear | Threaded)

Speaking of John McCain and the other war mongering twits we see flitting around the world making trouble; can they be of any practical use? Can we prop them up and throw darts at them? Or use them for subversive propaganda? Like for instance, "Nobody likes Cubans, even John McCain doesn't think they are worth bombing." Or this, "John McCain says, I don't always drop bombs, but when I do, I make sure I'm good and drunk when I suggest it." Any better ideas out there?

#1 KommiKillr on 2014-03-17 17:49 (Reply)

I believe it was Khrushchev, not Stalin, who made the Crimea part of the Ukraine. Stalin did deport the Tatars from the Crimea and moved the Ukraine west so that it incorporated areas that were once part of Poland, and shaved off parts eastern Ukraine to add to Russia proper.

#2 chuck on 2014-03-17 23:03 (Reply)

If you insist that every border that ever was is enough reason for an armed invasion to restore that border, there's not much to do except continuous war.
And if you insist on that, give me back New York! And I demand reparations for the last 300 years or so.

#3 J.T. Wenting on 2014-03-18 01:57 (Reply)

Well, yeah, Euro borders (and we seem to be including Russia and vicinity, the Ottoman empire area, Norther Afirca and, at least, southern Scandinavia) have always changed. The problem with that is that they sometimes change radically, rapidly, and with extreme violence that disrupts much of the rest of the world.

I say we lift off and nuke 'em from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

#4 Knucklehead (Link) on 2014-03-18 10:59 (Reply)

The fact of the matter is that borders change and states expand and contract. Russia's done a lot of that since Ivan III listened to his honey Zoe Paleologou, decided he was the rightful heir of the Roman Caesars (hence the title Tsar), and rudely informed the Golden Horde that he would no longer pay tribute (and defeated the Horde into the bargain).

As for Ukraine, it got its name because it was the borderland between Great Russia, Poland-Lithuania, and Ottoman Turkey.

#5 Kepha on 2014-03-18 16:59 (Reply)

Add Comment

Name
Email	(Your e-mail will not show in your comment)
Homepage
In reply to
Comment	By commenting on this site you agree to the site rules listed here. Email addresses will not be displayed and will only be used for email notifications. Quick reference guide: [i] italics [/i], [b] bold [/b], [u] underline [/u], [url] (web address) [/url]. More tips here. Enclosing asterisks marks text as bold (word), underscore are made via _word_. E-Mail addresses will not be displayed and will only be used for E-Mail notifications. To prevent automated Bots from commentspamming, please enter the string you see in the image below in the appropriate input box. Your comment will only be submitted if the strings match. Please ensure that your browser supports and accepts cookies, or your comment cannot be verified correctly. Enter the string from the spam-prevention image above: BBCode format allowed
	Remember Information? Subscribe to this entry

Maggie's Farm

Our Recent Essays Behind the Front Page

Categories

Quicksearch

Links

Blog Administration

RSS Readers

Monday, March 17. 2014

European borders