We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Nock’s essay on the Right Thing is a reminder that the advocates of the paternalistic state, whether “left” or “right,” have it backward: good conduct isn’t a precondition of freedom; it is a consequence of freedom. He contrasts the “region of conduct” regulated by force, that is, by government, with the region regulated by the individual’s sense of doing the Right Thing.
you address individual freedom to make even poor choices.
But, what if :
1. these are our children
2. someone's decisions increase the burden on society.
Bloomberg stopped smoking indoors, increased bike lanes and now wants to decrease (not eliminate completely) a cause of obesity with sweet soft drinks.
second hand smoke adversely affects others, including children; marketing soft drinks also.
Further both also increase the medical costs to the taxpayer.
Finally, overall Bloomberg has made NYC far more livable than it was in the 1980's. He also is shepherding NYC through fiscal crises more successfully than other cities. I am willing to grant him some leeway on pet projects given the overall trajectory of significantly improved life here
No, and no. It was not Bloomberg who made NY more livable than the 80's it was Rudy.
I think the mere fact that secondhand smoke is unpleasant to others is enough for any store owner (not government) to ban it, but the case for its danger is simply not there. It is asserted often, but not demonstrated. So too with sugary drinks. It might make intuitive sense to people that allowing the sale of such drinks is a cause of obesity, but it simply isn't. There is no evidence for this. None. Zero. The best correlate with childhood obesity is lack of a father. Care to tell us what your legislation will be about that? If you go in that direction, I might actually agree to nanny-state for a bit, actually. Make dads step up? Sure.
These are not "our" children. My children live in Goffstown, Manchester, Spring, Nome, and Tromso, thanks. I am betting your count of children over eight years old is zero, just from that comment alone.
The narrative of what should work and should be true does not actually hold up with what does work and is true. Empiricism over theory, thanks.
ns sounds like zachriel. I am reminded of the original Mac commercial, which took off on "Metropolis". Ve Vill Do Ze Right Zing, Und Ve Vill LIKE IT! Ja Wohl! Ja Sicher! (Authoritarians always sound more authoritarian in German. I learned that in the movies.)
I have lived with second-hand smoke, and I hate it. I worked in an office with smokers, and my clothes stunk--hung them overnight in a plastic bag with mothballs to get another day's wear from them. Worked in another office--after lunch the smoke was visible from 4-5' up to the ceiling when I started. Somehow only non-smokers got hired after that.
Didn't hurt me any that I can tell, some 40 years later.