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Saturday, August 24. 2013
This is part of why my high-meat, zero carb weight loss program (fixed) works: all calories are not handled the same way (and bacon and eggs are a good, healthy diet breakfast). More here:
Miley Cyrus Gluten Free Diet is a Hoax, and 3 Other Weight Loss Scams
Like I said, if you want to lose weight, cut out the carbs and eat meat. Calory-counting does not work because it's the insulin that stores the carbs.
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Link to 'my high-meat, zero carb weight loss program' is wrong.
Perhaps it should be: http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/19753-The-Official-Maggies-Farm-Get-Back-in-Shape-for-Springtime-Plan.html
That so many on each side can hold opposite views proves that nothing is settled.
Today Ornish. The next, Atkins. Then Ornish....
I'm sick of the whole pseudo-scientific charade of authors flogging weight-loss books.
In the meantime, I'm doing just fine on the anchovy pizza and German chocolate cake diet....Call 911...
Obesity is genetic. It isn't caused by eating carbohydrates, sugar, fat, HFCS, or protein. You get obesity from your parents and their parents etc. not from your food. If you are not genetically predisposed to be obese you cannot physically make yourself obese. If you are genetically predisposed to be obese then dieting won't cure it and the best you can hope for is a temporary weight loss or a lifetime of a starvation diet.
The problem with that argument is that the percentage of obesity is not fairly constant in a fixed population, as would be the proportion of people with blue eyes.
When I stop walking, I notice I gain weight. That is behavioral, not genetic.
A genetic predisposition is not the same as being born with blue eyes. In the case of obesity it can vary from individual to individual in the same ethnic group and even between siblings. Some may start becoming obese in the first grade others become obese after their first or second baby. Most simply get larger all their life. But it isn't just "one thing" like blue eyes or red hair.
Second point is "gaining weight" is not the same as being or even becoming obese. Right now obesity is defined arbitrarily and inaccurately such that Mel Gibson was considered obese when clearly he is not. The BMI is a extremely poor measure and has only one virtue; it is easy to calculate. Are you obese at BMI 30? maybe unless you happen to be a weightlifter. As for gaining weight when you stop excercising that is normal!! That is exactly what your body is designed to do. Just as gaining weight when food is abundant. But, unless you are obese or genetically predisposed to be obese you probably cannot gain enough weight to become obese.
Most people who have little to no experience with excess weight and diet assume it is all about eating too much. Ironically and happily the odds are that once they pass 50-55 years old they or their spouse will prove them wrong. I await their smart alec comment once the benefits of youth are gone and the wisdom of age has arrived.
The predisposition is, perhaps - the way I process carbs. But both my parents are thin. I am fat. I ate too may carbohydrates. It's like crack cocaine to me.
I started Dr Joy's' no carb plan on 5/17. I have lost 8 pounds since then. You do the math.
Nothing else has worked. Ever. One little bite of potato will not only set me back on this food plan, it will prime the craving pump. It is ugly.
Thank you, Dr. Bliss.
Would love to see the "maintenance" plan some time!
This doesn't synch with what I see with my own two eyes. Lots more people are a lot heavier now than when I was kid 35 years ago.
Something or somethings has/have obviously changed in our diets and living habits.
Some likely candidates off the top of my head:
- greater availability of cheap highly processed foods
- a lot more passive TV watching and a lot less walking and light physical activity in general
- emphasis on high glycemic carbohydrate oriented foods in your diet from the government, schools...see first reason above
Diet matters, I've seen plenty of friends who struggle with weight cut out all wheat products and lose weight they've never been able to before. Could be the affect of high glycemic food, could be simply eliminating excess calories by not having the unecessary extra bread at meal, could be the gluton, who knows other than it seems to work.
Lots of people mindlessly stuff cheap, high density calorie foods in their mouth all day long. This will make you fat regardless of your genes.
Be describing it as "cheap highly processed foods" your bias is clear. But I don't know what "cheap highly processed foods" are. Do you mean junk food, fast food, prepared foods, packaged foods, all of the above??? If they cost more and are then "expensive highly processed foods" does that make them good? If they are cheap but only processed a little is that better? In fact none of this matters. Your body breaks down everything you eat to the smallest molecues. Your body does not know if your carbs were highly processed before you ate them or raw. It doesn't know if the protein you ate is cheap or expensive. It doesn't know or care what the glycemic index was. It turns 100% of the carbs into sugar (glucose) and burns it to power your muscles and brain. If your genes predict you will be thin then eating all the cheap, high calorie dense foods you can stuff into your mouth all day long won't make you obese. If your genes predict that you will be obese then you WILL be obese and cutting out wheat or high glycemic foods won't prevent it. Everyone has food biases and every generation tends to have their own biases. The trick is to realize that all/most of the books on food (good food bad food) are written to make the author rich and rarely have anything of value in them. That fad diets at best are useless and at worse can hurt your health. Eat a varied diet and don't exclude aany food group because of bias and you will be eating a good diet.
Whatever works for you but when it comes to fad diets most of them will work for awhile to some extent. Carbs don't make you fat anymore then protein or fats do. Fad diets work partly because it disrupts your normal eating style and mostly because you are following a strict regimen.
Don't forget that being overweight and being obese are generally speaking to very different things. If you aren't obese you will have a better chance of losing weight on a diet and keeping it off. The odds are not in your favor. Your body wants you to be overweight and it will take a lifetime of committment to beat the odds.
Good points. I don't have an answer but I'm lucky not to have a weight problem (except for a little "Dunlop's Disease").
I've heard, that for healthy food, don't eat it if it's white or comes out of a box.
Um, hate to tell you, but calorie counting does work or I wouldn't have lost 15 pounds. LOL.
If you cut calories and aren't losing weight, you just need to cut more. End of story.
I agree that calorie counting works. It is after all a diet. The problem is trying to apply something that works for you and others to everyone. Most obese people have tried calorie counting and for one reason or another it doesn't work for them. Of course you could lock them up and feed them 1200 calories a day and then indeed they would lose weight. But within a month or two of letting them out they would gain most or all of the weight back. They have a genetic problem that makes their body store fat. They aren't fat because they are lazy or eat bon bons they simply cannot lose the weight and keep it off. People who are not "blessed" with an obesity gene don't understand it. They try to apply their own experience to the problem and of course it does not work. Just as you said; you can cut calories and lose 15 pounds. So by your experience anyone should be able to so they must just be lazy or uncommitted. But it is simply that you have different genes.
I lost 18 pounds on this diet in the spring. But I have diabetes and had to make some adjustments. The straight diet knocked my insulin shots down by over 50% and I worked with the nurse to find a new regulation point. I also added 4 o'clock and 9 pm snacks of 25 grams of carbs to the diet. No carbs for a diabetic can knock you out of the normal range on the low side - dangerous.
It worked for me but I have to admit that the nurse wasn't too pleased to hear what I was doing. I fell off the diet when I got more active in the summer, but the weight stayed off. I'll probably go back on it for the build up to the holidays. Highly recommended.
Low carb high protein and saturated fat diets work. Period.
But your fats have to be saturated animal based fats not processed vegetable based polyunsaturated and you should strive to eat as high quality food as possible.
It is not as convenient to eat this way as most food sources are oriented towards processed easy to prepare or ready to eat and is typically cereal and/or soy based.
Those who claim a calorie is a calorie apparently are unaware of the body of research linking carbs (high cereal and/or sugar content foods) with insulin response and its impact on fat storage and inflammation.
Focus your diet on high quality meats and vegetables with optional moderate amounts of wine/bear and occasional deserts and your body will be much healthier and you'll be much happier with your body composition and energy levels. Oh and skipping breakfast or at least delaying it to later in the morning has benefits as well.
I totally agree. My diet consists mostly of junk food, prepared food and chocolate (if I can't get chocolate I will eat most any candy) That is MY fad diet and I can prove it works. I am 70 years old and in good health and my weight is about perfect for my height. Typically cereal for breakfast and coffee. Pizza for lunch or McDonalds. Hot dog for midday snack. My dinners are usually meat and potatoes (or rice). Then chips, cake , chocolate, cheese crackers, etc for forth meal (can't really call it a snack because it may well be my biggest meal). Proof positive that my particular fad diet works! Just as convincing as the proof that any fad diet works.
Read Gary Taubes's "Calories in, Calories Out" to learn the history of nutrition research, especially how fat became evil (without meaningful research) and refined carbs and sugar were ignored.
It's an interesting read, no matter your own dietary biases. The nutritional research community often become advocates for their own hypothesis. They accept those studies that confirm them, and reject studies that don't, claiming that "we must have done the study wrong."