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Saturday, November 19. 2011
I realize that some of our readers own more firearms than can be easily listed (obsessional collectors, with too much money), but some just own a few.
I don't collect firearms, but I have two friends who are serious collectors, with hundreds of functional and valuable antiques of all sorts.
I have an ugly Savage 110, a Glock 9 mm (and a carry permit), a pile of old .22s, one lovely old Abercrombie & Fitch 20 ga s/s for grouse and woodock, a pretty Belgian Browning 12 ga o/u which I use for clays, a Rem 12 ga semiauto for deer, turkey, ducks and geese, and a few other nice old field shotguns in the back of the closet which I can't remember. I don't go for fancy: guns are tools, meant to be used and banged around.
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M1 Carbine, Springfield Arms XD 40 and some little bitty off brand .38 semi-auto for the wife. More of each to arm the whole family with standardized tools would be good, for now the adult senior directors are in charge of security/food supply for the family unit.
Just to show you that you have a variety of readers. Lived in NYC all my life, never owned a gun, but am both a member of the NRA (Lifetime), and a vegetarian. It all makes sense to me.
I'm a revolver guy - always have been. I figure if I can't do what I need to do with five shots, it just ain't worth doing. :>)
My carry weapon is a S&W .357 small J frame hammerless with the laser grip. I like to use an ankle holster, but I do have a hideaway for the back of my pants.
Colt 1911 Marine issue .45 semi-auto. A post Vietnam purchase.
Good old Remington 11-87 12 guage.
Brandy new Winchester Model 70, .308 (birthday gift from my youngest).
All the rest of my weapons are safely tucked away in a gun safe somewhere other than here. Which is fine - I don't need 'em all anyway anymore - two long guns and two hand guns are all I need.
Glock 19 and my permit...hammerless S and W 38, my dads old Winchester 22, and my boy has a 20 ga. Rossi....
I'm kind of a collector and I've been known to compete in bullseye pistol and highpower rifle competitions.
I inherited a 12 ga. Damascus steel side by side and an 1872 Winchester rifle in 32-20.
I also have an M1 Garand, M1 carbine, AR-15, Beretta auto 12 ga, a Luger, Browning HiPower, some 1911 pattern guns and an assortment of .22s (rifle and pistol).
I wish I had more time to shoot them!
Ruger mini-14- I'm with Alex, looking out for city riff raff trying to breach the castle.
Two Glock 17s
A Mossberg 500 12 gauge
and a M1A (civilian semi-auto version of the M14)
They live in a gun safe, except for one of the Glocks, which is my "nightstand" gun. Everything has been totally reliable and is ready to go, like my fire extinguishers, if they are needed.
Springfield Armory 1911 .45 "Mil-Spec" pistol, which is pretty much just like the old Gov't issue .45 except a wider ejection port, polished feed ramp, & bigger sights. I really love the .45 cartridge.
Springfield Armory XD-9 "Service Model". I wanted an ugly plastic pistol in 9mm & tried a bunch out. I did really like the Glocks I tried in terms of trigger pull & feel, but I just didn't shoot that well using them. With the XD-9 it's like hammering nails.
I like going to the range and shooting the pistols. I don't have a carry license, though I intend to get one if just for the principle of it. I'll have to get a smaller pistol if I do carry; most days I'm wearing a suit.
Smith & Wesson 12 Gauge shotgun. Gas operated. Yep S&W sold shotguns for a while; I think it was made by an Italian firm. Dad bought it for me back in the '80's when the old Remington 11 (really the Browning A-5) 16 Gauge I used got stolen. I use it as a quail & dove gun.
Browning Pump .12 Gauge for home defense. This is sort of an oddball gun that Browning doesn't even list at its website & I don't think it's made anymore. It's basically the slick Browning "BPS" pump action with the shortest legal barrel you can use. Black finish and synthetic stock. Dad won it at a raffle; he was hoping I would be able to swap out a slightly longer barrel with appropriate choke for field use in woods & brush, but the regular Browning barrels won't fit properly. So it's purpose-built. I've never wanted a home defense type shotgun, but hey it's free.
Lee-Enfield No.1 Mark III Rifle in .303 British. Always wanted one & nabbed this one on sale for $70.00 at a pawn shop. She's beat up, made in 1918 at the Lithgow arsenal in Australia. Stock markings (including a kangaroo in profile) indicate it was first issued to the Civilian Military Force, which I gather was sort of like our National Guard. Judging by the markings on it I think it got an arsenal overhaul & then re-issued during WWII. The barrel is much newer than the rest of the rifle & I was pleased to find that the head space on the old bolt is just fine. Shoots great with iron sights. A thumper.
Reproduction "Zouave" Rifle. Black powder muzzle loader in .58 caliber. Made for a Minie Ball. When I was a kid I was into the black powder thing for a while. Now it sits around looking pretty.
For Christmas I'd like a brace of Colt Pythons (as pictured above). Nice.
I'm gettin' a hankering for a large revolver, too. I have converted too completely to See me, Ottos. I only have the S&W .38 Special snub w/ small handle, in the wheel gun form. Fits perfectly in the back pocket of Levis --extracts smoothly, two fingers'll do it, and unless in bright sunlight doesn't even show. I like being able to go 'see who it is' without greeting a friendly with a shootin' arn in my hand, or encountering an unidentified without one in carry.
Right there with ya. Nothin' wrong with Messrs. S&W new-fangled invention. But in addition to the J-frame (which I also like very much, BTW) you should consider a 686 Plus or if yer feelin' spendy, a S&W 627 8-shot for the nightstand. Failsafe as any mechanical device can be, the same capacity as a 1911, and able to fire .38 Specials to boot.
How ya been, Buddy? Been doin' some oil patch work lately and into the new year, largely overseas. So I'm a happy camper.
--hey skook --doing the monthy-month rotation overseas are ya? I miss those days, now that ah'm reetard, tho didn't miss 'em much when i wasn't missing 'em, for some reason or nuther.
Singapore? Stavanger? Aberdeen? Atcheson, Topeka, Santa Fe?
Them's mighty good sidearm idees, Jephnol. Say you isn't from the Jed and Jethro Jephnols, is you?
Lester an Earl. Whew, that's sum fine pickin'! Can't say I know a Jed or Jethro in the intermediate family, but therin's a Jug and a Thump near the Big A over where the King's Highway used ta sit mite be relatives. An I reckon that's close enuf to Jed an Jethro by most counts anyhoo.
Yaotter try ursef an XD in the .45 neighborhood. Now, I no's its in the wrong d'rection, tuther to what you was indercatin, but she's a shooter. Butin if guns with wheels are winding your watch stem, a Python is a pricey waytago. There's some nice shooters in the .357 neighborhood bound to make an impression or two in unwantified guesteses. I'm a bit partial to Ruger's SP100, causin you can pop-off .38 +P ammoonition without regretifying hurtin' your hand with sumo those hot .357's. Ya' know, spicey, but not too spicey. Just enough pepper to make the goobers look for water somer else. An jus think, starin' down a goober wit a wheel gun in yur mitt, ya' get to give a Clint Eastwood stare and declare, "I'm about to go old scool on yurn azz, now git, ya' hear!"
A CZ-75 SP01 is a wonderful one at the range. With it's 18 or so rounds of 9MM one can shoot up several targets (or Perps) before reloading. It is heavy but accurate.
The Mossberg 12 GA is simply something to make HOLES...
What are you talking about? "Obsessional collectors with too much money." I wish. Most of us obsessional collectors are always broke, because we just bought another one.
I'm still under three figures, but the question would be easier to answer in terms of what I do not have.
I have dies to reload 10 pistol calibers and 12 rifle calibers.
chi-com SKS w/plenty of sardine cans of soviet-bloc 7.62: if it ever really hits this is the piece to have
Colt Delta Elite 10mm stainless hard to find ammo but knocks down anything in front of it
Mossberg 500 fairly well pimped out with extended tube mag, pistol grips/light etc. loaded with heavy bird shot, enough to change someones mind, not enough to go through walls that have sleeping kiddies on the other side....plus an effective club if out of shells
Ruger Mark II .22 w.thumb rest target stock, if you are closer than 75 feet, I can choose which pimple to hit.
Ruger ranch rifle in 7.62 nice semi-auto for deer in heavy brush, with 20rnd clips makes a for a serious proposition regards two legged varmints that might shoot back (see SKS above)
colt 1911 gift from a gentleman that thought of me as the son he never had..manufactured by Remington Rand when they quit making typewriters for the duration...it was carried/saw action in two theaters and I would let you have all the rest but would fight you til my last breath for this one
got a few others lying around but these are the ones I value.
Winchester Model 42 pump in .410 - My Dad's dove, quail, duck gun.
Winchester Model 24 SxS in 16 w/ 26" bbl - My grandad won this in a trap contest
Rem Wingmaster 870 in 12 w/ 26 & 30" bbl - My old standby for everything with wings
Benelli Legacy in 20 ga w/ 23" bbl - post poverty go to quail gun
Benelli SBE2 in 12 ga w/ 28" bbl - Duck / Goose
Browning Cynergy O/U in 12 (synthetic) - Duck
Savage 12vlp in 22-250 - laminated, fluted, bull barrel in 26" stainless, aluminum pillar bedded- varmint and accuracy plinking
Winchester Model 70 "coyote" WSM 279 - laminated, bull barrel, blued - varmint, accuracy plinking
H & R single .410 - My Dad's and my first gun.
Ha! Ya ain't foolin' me. Ya might be collectin' infomation fer gubmint agents and revenooers. Uh, yah, that's it... I don't own no guns and I'ma skared of um, too!
Browning Citori XT Trap
Khan M12 O/U
S&W M15 Combat Masterpiece
Type 38 Arisaka
Lee-Enfield Rifle No. 4 Mk 2
Swedish Mauser m/96
Let's see - the young squire and I started out with Remington 870 20 and 12 gauge then I added a Beretta 12 gauge auto loader.
Fell in love with side by sides and have a Russian in 12, a beautiful Thomas Turner 12 which M'Lady uses when we go pheasant hunting and a 16 LC Smith.
Then came the hand guns - S&W Model 60 .357 for M'Lady (which she shoots much better than I), a Kimber Custom II .45 and a Beretta PX4 9MM double stack.
And of course, everyone needs a black rifle to hang things on. I chose the Bushmaster ACR - estate protection at it's finest. Bring it on........
1971 Remington wingmaster 12 gauge - 28" and 30" ribbed barrels. (Ducks and pheasant)
Beretta O/U 12 gauge (trap and quail)
Henry lever action 44 magnum (very pretty toy)
1970's Sig Sauer 226 9mm (15 round clips) [Always loaded with a round in the chamber. "Just pull the trigger, dear, and don't stop until it's empty." She's a better shot than I.]
Bird Dog - you will need to hire up some additional server space before I can list all of mine . . . .
"I realize that some of our readers own more firearms than can be easily listed (obsessional collectors, with too much money)"
This constitutes a new low for you. Those that read you regularly understand that you are awakening to all sorts of things including firearms, but your summation of collectors is insulting and revealing, your judging what constitutes too much money is of no surprise.
Say what, Say What? Those types of folks do certainly exist, but Barrister was mocking them, not agreeing with 'em. Which of course you may be also doing --which would make me, rather than you (or Barrister), the Fool.
As a partially reformed obsessive collector, I took no offense. Lets please keep a sense of humor. Also to #37NJSoldier. I also have had to keep "items" out of state due to Peoples Republic of NJ rules. I always wonder what happened to the grandfather we were promised? Of course they "were" grandfathered in NY City. Look what it got "them". Banned anyway. Did no one ever here of Expost Facto?
S&W Model 1917 .45 cal revolver
Mossberg model 590 12 gauge shotgun (20" barrel, 8 in the magazine, 1 in the chamber)
Every model 12 but a 28 ga., 2 model 42's, several LC's, couple 870's (1 in bedroom;-) more small frame S&W's than I can count a colt 1911 from WWII, several deer rifles, a S&W 44, 357, and a few 38's, Tarus 380 ............
I've got mine and those passed down.
9mm Browning Highpower.
9mm S&W semiauto.
38. S&W snubnose.
Model 70 Winchester 25/06.
1903 Springfield 30/06 sporterized in 1950s. (A gift from my grandmother.)
Remington 1187 12ga.
My old Winchester Model 50 12 ga.
Browning side-by-side 20ga.
A 20ga Ted Williams (Sears) pump. (Dad bought it for Mom, who did not hunt.)
Tried a Glock 35 (.40) for target, but the long trigger pre-pull (safety) messed me up, and when my range officer said that the Glock was best for killing people at 25 feet, not going for the x-ring at 50, I went with an STI Targetmaster (1911-based .45).
Broomhandle Mauser with the wood shoulder-stock holster
The Ruger Blackhawk .357 I bought in high school
Buncha shotguns accreted over tim: O/U, S/S, Auto, in 12, 16, 20 & 28 by Parker, Thos. Bland, Beretta, Weatherby, Victor Sarasqueta, Remington and Browning.
The 1915 (+/-) John Blanche 16 ga. S/S at 5.2 lbs. is the gun that jumps to hand when pheasants and chukkar are on the menu. It also jumped out at me the day I saw it in the Hamburg, PA Cabela's when I went in to find 3" 20 ga. shells for my Parker.
Remington 700 in .270, beat up a lot from going about in a Jeep looking for Blacktails & piggies.
Nothing (except the new STI) that doesn't have honestly-acquired nicks, dents, dings, scrapes & chips. Nothing long that hasn't brought home dinner; nothing short that hasn't seen a target.
We're users, not collectors, and it's like having a whole bunch of tools, each of which has a separate function.
Black powder: Uberti Rollingblock muzzleloader .50, casedColt 1860 Gen. 3 in .36, Remington Cattleman Carbine repro
[Gubmint knows all this anyway
--i have a 1911, passed down by an uncle who fought in WW1. Wish i knew the history, but my son tells me it isn't Army issue but a rare and valuable limited edition made in a small batch for civilians.
i oughtta open a google blog so i could show the photos of the legends --but here they are typed out:
((right side between/above grip and trigger guard is))
((and on left side along the slide is))
COLT'S PT.F.A. MFG.CO. HARTFORD.CT U.S.A.
PAT'D APR.20.1897.SEPT.9,1902. DEC.19,1905.FEB.14,1911.AUG.19,1913
((This is in two lines on the pistol (tho three lines in the dialogue box here), both lines are all-caps, but the font in the lower line is smaller))
any experts happen to have a link to the story on this run? I'd appreciate --i've searched some to no avail --
In the late 60's Colt manufactured a series of WW1 % WW2
commemerative 45 autos. Do you have one of these. Also:
Never publish the last 3 digets of a serial #. IE C149xxx.
A bunch. Good all around arsenal. Tried to minimize calibers but have maximized ammo on hand.
I'll tell you all about my plinky habits when you pry the truth from my cold dead hands. What cha' gonna' ask about next? Faithfulness to sexual prophylaxis?
Bird Dog, I hope you're not going to protect your wife with that!
.22 S&W Nickel model 34
Browning High-Power 1943 Inglis
Webley Mk IV.38
Webley Mark I .455 shaved to .45
Walther Model 3
Colt Match Target from 1955
Colt Model 1860 Army made 1862
Ruger Mk II target
Ruger GP 100 .357
Ruger 10-22 Heavy barrel target rifle
Stoeger 16 GA coach
Inherited the S&W .22 from my mother
Bought the Bersa .380
Everything else...inherited from a friend.
Hmph....first time I listed it all.....that's a nice start on a collection.
--that coach, short double barrel with exposed hammers, i have in .410 by Rossi. It lives in my work truck during rattlesnake season, the eleven months preceding the first freeze. Great design, natural for vehicles from stagecoach to F-150. Nothing more positive a safety than those big exposed hammers.
Unfortunately, while out cruising in my dingy, it sank with all my guns. I thought that needed to be said in case the ATF is reading this.
Just a simple Mossie 12-gauge pump for home defense. Want more, but the wife won't agree....
2 glock 19's, 2 DPMS M4s, 1 DPMS SASS, 1 Winchester Model 94, 1 Winchester Model 12, 1 Colt Combat Commander, 1 Remington 870, assorted 25 cal......sat nite specials, and I do have a CCW. And several older .30-06's ....
Really late to this:
S&W 22A .22 Pistol
Savage Mark II FVT .22 rifle
Hi-Point .40 carbine (my bedside gun)
6.5 mm Arisaka (with the Chrysanthemum)
Replication of an American Committee of Safety Musket
Grandad's .410 H&R shotgun
and... HK91 rifle purchased legally in MA in 1990. (Not stored at my house where it is also now banned - although I could buy an exact replica legally.
More than I could possibly list, but I have a soft spot for old Browning shotguns and custom rifles on 98 Mauser actions.
Springfield SS Loaded M1As
Springfield SS SuperMatch M1A
Springfield Scout M1A
Springfield M1 Garand (1955)
DSA SA58C18 FAL
Kahr Arms M1 Paratrooper Carbine
Weatherby Mark V .340
Weatherby Mark V .300
Weatherby Vanguard TR .308
Marlin 60 .22s
Ruger 77 .220 Swift
Ruger 77 .22-250
Browning BPS 3-1/2" 12GA Mag
Freedom Arms .454
Freedom Arms .475
6000 Rounds of ammunition for most and the ability to make more