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Monday, November 29. 2010What racism?Re that Looking for Racism piece we (and many others) linked a while ago: I spent most of the summers of my youth working side-by-side with black guys, doing manual labor. Mostly landscaping and in lumber yards, back before all the Mexicans arrived. My folks required us to labor during the summers. They did not wish to produce spoiled, snotty brats. I loved those dudes, and they liked me. We were a bit culturally alien, but we all liked good music and thought about Jesus. They all grew up in the South. The differences made us more interesting to eachother. They'd invite me back to their places after work to listen to Kenny Burrell, smoke some weed (to which they introduced me), and drink cheap wine and smoke Pall Malls (the red packages - delicious unfiltered smokes) until it was time for me to wobble my parents' station wagon away from downtown back to Whitelandia. I miss them. In my view, modern racism is an invention of the race-pimps and pols who make a good living off of inventing it and then exploiting it. Even Al and Jesse have trouble finding problems nowadays and, believe me, they do look for signs of them everywhere. Listening to cool Kenny takes me back to those good old days.
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Yes... Different state similar time. Again yes...
I spent many weekend evenings in the other end of town @ the record shop.... Probably have an entry in my file (FBI)... Institutional racism, not really anymore. Personal racism, there is still plenty of that around. The ugly kind, in any pro sporting event's grandstands, and the more refined kind anywhere from Boston to Houston and all other parts for that matter. Try conversing with some successful North Carolina business types about why their kids attend private Christian schools instead of public schools, for one example.
Mankind is a fallen species, and sadly racism lurks in many hearts along with other hatreds too numerous to count. You may be right, but it sure does not fit with my life experience. People always are more comfortable with their own tribes, but tend also enjoy other tribes. But tribes aren't color. Tribes are familial-cultural or sub-cultural.
Dan D
Personal racism, there is still plenty of that around. The ugly kind, in any pro sporting event's grandstands Yes, but I am also reminded of two sporting events. i)Some TV network tried to foment an anti-Muslim incident at a NASCAR event, to no avail. ii) Sporting fans in Spain were very vocal about racial epithets towards black athletes, at a volume that would be shocking in the US. Try conversing with some successful North Carolina business types about why their kids attend private Christian schools instead of public schools, for one example. Or why DC libs and the POTUS have their children schooled at Sidwell Friends and not at DC public schools. Public schools no place for teachers' kids. Nationwide, public school teachers are almost twice as likely as other parents to choose private schools for their own children, the study by the Thomas B. Fordham Institute found. More than 1 in 5 public school teachers said their children attend private schools. In Washington (28 percent), Baltimore (35 percent) and 16 other major cities, the figure is more than 1 in 4. In some cities, nearly half of the children of public school teachers have abandoned public schools. In Philadelphia, 44 percent of the teachers put their children in private schools; in Cincinnati, 41 percent; Chicago, 39 percent; Rochester, N.Y., 38 percent. The same trends showed up in the San Francisco-Oakland area, where 34 percent of public school teachers chose private schools for their children; 33 percent in New York City and New Jersey suburbs; and 29 percent in Milwaukee and New Orleans. This is a complex issue. 1) From having observed bigotry and racism overseas,and also personally having been the object of same, I reached the conclusion that liberal guilt was not justified. The US did better than most. People who by group affiliation would be at each others' throats outside the US, get along here. 2) Ethnocentrism and group affiliation are too deeply embedded in our beings to completely eradicate. While things are better than they were 60 years ago, they are not perfect- nor will they ever be. 3) The overplaying of the race card in recent years reminds me of the boy who cried wolf. When the race card is played for political advantage, not for justice, the race card becomes debased, and more and more ignored. Blacks will progress more by reducing the illegitimacy rate than by hunting down and punishing intimations of racism. Gotta agree with the others here - this is a class/competence issue, not a racism issue.
The problem - as any educated, successful black person will tell you - is that being black has been co-opted into Marxist class warfare. Therefore being educated and successful is viewed as being somehow "less black". Which complicates things. Ever here the terms "oreo" and "zebra"? Who says them? How do terms like these - and the black "spokespeople" who say them - figure in your calculation of racism? Affirmative action was a masterstroke from the race-baiters' point of view - it allowed them to taint the credibility of even those blacks who did the work, made something of themselves. and tried to escape the identity label stuck on them by the Left. Very sad. "Personal racism, there is still plenty of that around."
Dead on. I hear the most hair-raising racism directed at whites and Jews these days. And, of course, our apartheid-like "affirmative action" laws and "studies" programs. And the use of "community" to mean "race." Not mention racist crimes from the Zebra killings in San Francisco to the Knoxville murders: forty years of racist killing and still no government action against racist organizations that are the sources of this murderous hatred. I hear the comments above, and have to think that some people are in denial about how common racism remains, call it tribalism maybe.
I am white, and I hear plenty of racist comments about blacks in general as well as in particular. Sometimes it is from the expected rough-edged people from lower strata of society, sometimes it is the elite. And there are whites who don't like Asians, or Hispanics, and blacks or Asians who don't like whites or another group. But for you white guys who don't see racism against blacks anymore, just political correctness and institutionalized rationalizations that now seem to punish whites, try answering this question truthfully: If you were relocated to another region and given a new identity under a witness protection program, would you like to live the remainder of your days in our society as a black person instead of white? See how welcome the new you would be in many social settings that you never give a second thought about today as a white person. "As long as any individual or group can expect to gain advantage by screaming "racism", racism will continue to exist"
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