We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Our study of the University of Michigan, for example, found that in 2005 an in-state male with no parent ties to the school, a 1240 cumulative SAT, and 3.2 high-school grade-point average had a 92 percent chance of admission if black and an 88 percent chance if Latino – but only a 14 percent chance if white and a mere 10 percent chance if Asian. Our study of six North Carolina schools – North Carolina State and the University of North Carolina campuses at Asheville, Chapel Hill, Charlotte, Greensboro, and Wilmington – found the same pattern.
Yes, but could this be because UC Berkeley, Stanford, and many of the other west coast colleges--not to mention Yale, etc. have taken the bulk of incoming Asian students? Yes, and also the bulk of American born Asian students attend those schools. You see the Asian community understands that the parents respect education more, demand more intense and serious homework studies and high performance of their children. That is a fact like it or not. It is also a fact that the liberals in Seattle had to shamefacedly admit. Those families and those student s KNOW they work hard, achieve better grades and greater mastery. Therefore, those students attend the best. Testing to see how many of those students are enrolled in second tier state colleges is a hypocrisy!
To imply that the study is invalid based on your opinion that “the bulk” of Asian students go to East and West Coast universities is a weak argument. You present no figures that support or refute whether this also occurs at your “better” universities so you haven’t proven or disproven anything.
Further, the study states that Blacks and Latinos are about 9 times more likely than Asians with the same credentials to be admitted to these universities. This smacks of racism to me. Whether these admission numbers hold true for other universities needs to be studied. But given how admissions are partially calculated based on race at all universities I would not be surprised if this universally holds true.
I wouldn't put much stock in the effectiveness of studies like this for anything other than rallying the voters. I've had public policy legal beagles tell me to my face that this kind of numbers game doesn't matter, because the discrimination is against whites. They don't give a flying burrito, friends.
Brian is also right: without having access to the "actual" numbers from each university this conversation is without validation. I know what I see on campus at Berkeley. I know what I see on several other of the upper tier schools, private or state--it is very Asian! MOST PARTICULARLY in the fields of science and technology. For those of you who disdain private colleges let me add that Berkeley (a state school) has the greatest number of Nobel Laureates on campus! (The quality of it's academics is not reflected in the quality of it's football team). You need to also know that "the revolution" has moved off campus and Berkeley is not nearly the same as it was in the 1960's. As for Stanford, and other schools with very strong science/technology programs--take a walk through and let your eyes tell you what is really going on in terms of enrollment.