We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Yeah, I wish the government would have mandated back in 1969-1974 that more girls study engineering. (The F/M ratio **had** to have been even worse then!) At least I went to a school (Va Tech) that offered many other fields of study that were better populated with girls, so it wasn't too bad!
"My father was an MD. My brother is an MD. And here I am in education." (self pity just pouring out of her)
From an assistant Dean of Education, feminine gender, at a nameless university, trying to inform students about how female students are screwed when it comes to science.
I found that not too credible, as my sister had a MS in engineering and my mother had a MS in biology. When I was an engineering undergrad, the female students mixed very well with the male students.
My sister's best friend from high school studied female/male abilities in math, and from her doctoral research came to the conclusion that there was a genetic component in the differences. (Both HER parents were MDs. Guess she couldn't blame her father for her not getting an MD, as the assistant Dean did.). Guess who had a hard time finding a faculty position? I don't think it was the gender of my sister's friend that made it difficult for her to find a faculty position.
I read something this week that stated more women were going to college than men. I'll probably get slapped down by a roaming feminist for this ('roaming' because we have none on the blog), but I think the disparity has much to do with the 'nurture' nature of women. I don't think it has a thing to do with intelligence, it's just that women are nurturers and lean toward professions that access that gift.
I'll go a step further into slippery waters and say that I've always wondered what was wrong with a man who chose as his profession education below college level. It's a dumb bias as the men teachers I taught with were great. It's just that I wondered why they were willing to be thought of as crap when they could be out in the civilian world of business kicking up a storm and being admired.
"I'll probably get slapped down by a roaming feminist for this ('roaming' because we have none on the blog)"
I guess it depends upon your definition of feminism. If you mean Code Pink and the NOW types, then I understand.
If you mean competent women who are comfortable in their own skin, then I don't.
Having grown up with competent, high powered women with strong values (mother and sisters) in my family, my first reaction to the concept of feminism is them. But then again, I sometimes confuse myself.
If I were you, I would not give an inch to the less desirable form of feminism and my guess is you don't.
One of my sisters has a PhD in economics and is highly, highly mathematical. She is one of a handful of women in her field at her level. She was raised to believe that she could do whatever she wanted as long as she was willing to pay the price to get there. She just did what she wanted, although she was quite aware of the male dominance in economics.
Clearly, men and women are different. However, I do think that some of this has to do with socialization.
Look at the table again. The men are concentrated in the real educational programs that have societal value and the potential for real careers and incomes. The women are in the baby-sitting, daycare programs. The women come semiliterate and incompetent to care for themselves.
The person in our family who makes the most money speaks four languages and has an advanced degree in international relations. However, he graduated during a depression and continued working in the job that helped him pay his way through school - drywall. Works his tail off 10 months out of the year sloppping sheet rock with his crew of 30, January and February doing detail in expensive homes. His wife, equally educated (two languages), manages the business, raised two boys (naval engineer and musician), volunteers beyond belief and cared for her grandmothers until they died in their late 80s/96. Would I compare the two? Don't think so. I'm in awe of both.
Bob Sykes ... Hate to spoil your rant, but competent women who are comfortable in the workplace with men predate the Gloria Steinem feminists, harking back to those original feminists who believed in their own competency in the workplace and proved it. We classic feminists laid the foundation for today's "feminists" of the Maureen Dowd variety. They stand on our shoulders, the achievements we made. And we enjoyed the heat of battle and the flush of victory when we did it. On our own. No EEOC for us.
Listen to Barrett. He was brought up by the classic feminists, which is why he is so very smart.