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Saturday, April 11. 2009Illegal immigration: The Dems' Great HopeVDH, via NRO. It's called "politics." What I fail to understand about it all is that our hispanic illegals do not seem to me to be dependency-driven, but more opportunity-driven, traditionalist, family-oriented, and religious.
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Speaking as a citizen of a border state, living in a city which has about 40% of its citizens who are Hispanics, you and Victor David Hansen are pretty accurate in your estimation of their behavior and their motives. The non-testosterone poisoned, non-homie Hispanics are generally courteous, hard-working traditionalist folks whom you wouldn't mind having as neighbors -- and many of us do. There is always the low-down, bad-behavers in any ethnic group, even us white guys who've been here awhile. But my Hispanic friends are the salt of the earth.
As for the '37,000 illegal alien felons' the Houston Chronicle told us last November are living among us, I can't vouch for them. That's why I have a house gun. Marianne Agreed -- South Texas is built on hard-working traditionalist hispanics, some legal and some illegal. To judge from public postings, a lot of people have concluded that the pattern is legal=good citizens and illegal=bad ones. I don't see it that way. For me the dividing line depends on employment, willingness to learn English, and determination to marry and raise children. If anything, the immigrants show up with stronger ethics in these areas than the average American, then lose them as patronizing teachers, editorialists, and politicians offer them an alternative path of dependency and grievance.
Agreed. Of course, by saying so we are narrow minded and somewhat racist, sterotyping recent immigrants from Mexico as having the same qualities and motivations as those who immigrated here 100, 150, 200 years ago.
For the life of me I can't see why these new immigrants lean toward the democrats, or why the Republicans can't attract them. They come here to work, we need people who will actually do an honest day's work-where's the conflict? I understand the opposition to illegals and the very important need to secure the border but if they want to work, let them in and put them to work. Isn't that what this country was built on? E-Verify is simple, free, Web-based system that works by electronically comparing new employee information taken from the Form I-9. It works, and maybe that’s why the open border zealots have amassed against the application ? Opponents of E-Verify have resorted to charges that it is full of errors, when in truth it has an average a 99.5 success rate. More than 425 million records in the Social Security Administration’s database and more than 60 million records in the Department of Homeland Security’s immigration data base can then be verified.
In March E-verify was further enhanced by using a picture tool that helps patriotic businesses to identify illegal foreign workers. It allows an employer to compare identical photos – the worker's photograph on the EAD or green card against the image stored in USCIS’ databases, which contains nearly 15 million images of individual documents. The tool is designed to help an employer determine whether the document presented reasonably relates to the individual presenting it and contains a valid photo. Typos and similar problems are cured on line, so legal workers usually only have problem only if they changed their names or citizenship status--but failed to inform Social Security of the change. Others have to do something more to establish that they are lawfully authorized to work by approaching the SSA. While certain individuals do nothing--disappearing into the woodwork. It works! So--THE PEOPLE--should make it a permanent addition to our arsenal against illegal aliens stealing jobs of Americans. In addition, every company should check all their employees who are on the payroll now, not just not new recruits. If a business hires illegal labor and have not used E-verify, they should be subject to severe penalties. Two legislators have remained instrumental in trying to dismantle E-Verify, the REAL ID act, police enforcement (247(g) and ICE raids. Sen. Harry Reid and Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Remind your Senators and Congressman--who they work for? Washington switchboard. 202-224-3121 Reid's Carson Office: 775-882-7343/ Vegas: 702-388-5020 House Speaker Pelosi: 202-225-0100 / San Francisco: 415 556-4862 Illegal immigrants are the most dependence and crime driven of any people in America. I do not understand how you can ignore what is happening in the Southwest, and indeed throught the US, and write such nonsense.
Please read any informative source on what has happened to California. Then look at Nevada, Arizona, etc. and you will see our schools, hospitals, jails, and welfare are being driven to bankruptcy and by millions of illegal aliens who chose crime and dependency over work. If you keep up the head in the sand approach to illegal immigrants you will soon live in a one party dictatorship. Please, please look into the situation deeper before you support amnesty and open borders. The future of America is at stake. One only needs to look at the communities of So. California. In the 1950's and 1960's they were clean beautiful, every yard well cared for with gardens and green grass. Small houses for middle class families. You should see these places now--no grass--garbage on the front yards--filthy homes and streets, MEXICAN gangs everywhere! GEEZ when are you folks gonna understand that giving these animals a SS card is not going to make a difference--it will only degrade our nation and reduce our system's ability to take care of those who do work--those who are citizens. Check it out there are hundreds of communities in So. California that have been destroyed.
apple pie and LomaAlta ... Don't misconstrue my comments above as validating illegal immigrants. I was speaking of legal Hispanic immigrants. If I had my way, we'd have only legal immigrants in our country and they would by law have to speak English before they were allowed to join us. Imagine if you were driving on a Houston street and an illegal, non-English-speaking immigrant smashed into your car. Unless you speak Spanish, good luck with trying to talk to the miscreant who did this and get his insurance data-- always supposing he has insurance and he didn't just run off and leave you. And always supposing you can talk after the accident. And yet Texas is issuing driver's licenses to non-English-speaking folks, for some dumb politically correct reason.
It goes along with our insane City Council declaring us a "sanctuary city." The law of unintended consequences strikes again. Marianne Usually when someone breaks into your home, it's not because he wants to vacuum, wash windows and scrub your toilets.
Marianne, I was responding to this ill-informed and harmful comment by Barrister.
"What I fail to understand about it all is that our hispanic illegals do not seem to me to be dependency-driven, but more opportunity-driven, traditionalist, family-oriented, and religious." Even a cursory glance at the news or any of the fine books written about the decline and fall of California would soon get rid of such ill-informed opinions. It is attitudes and liberal views such as this one that got us into this mess and will destroy the US. Remember, Obama said after he grants amnesty to the illegal immigrants that there will never be another Republican president. One could add that Obama is right for once and you could also add senators, representatives, Supreme Court justices, etc. to the list. One party rule is certain tyranny. Supporting open borders and illegal immigration will be the death of the US. I guess not many people have read about the decline and fall of Rome. Too bad. For the reading-challenged, there is the NumbersUSA organization and its publications, facts, web site, etc. You will never get a true accounting from our government, politicians or the national press, on what illegal aliens are costing US taxpayers? It spirals into hundreds of billions of dollars. All we get in many cases is demonstrations demanding rights, foreign flag waving and a unceasing amount of criminal activity nationwide. Many do come here to work and some pay taxes, but not enough to cover the extraordinary costs applied to free medical care, education, housing and a whole host of undisclosed government handouts. Through a large loophole in IRS tax regulation Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). An obscene amount of money is returned to low income workers, states financial analyst and economist Edwin Rubinstein in his book. In 2007, more than 23 million households received more than $47 billion in the EITC payments. Much of the so-called "tax relief" goes to people who never paid a cent in taxes. Pariah employers should be paying for all these services, but instead are extracted from taxpayers exhausted wallets and purses. It's equally absurd and disgraceful when Americans needing social help and denied under current laws.
Now the Obama administration is opening a can of worms by pushing for another AMNESTY. If the 1986 Immigration and Control Act had been rigidly enforced, instead of being intentionally ignored or just downright dropped, we would not be in this organized chaos caused by the K street lobbyists? Now the the Democratic hierarchy is running rampant, looking to appease minorities---we can expect the worst? With disgraceful legislators like Sen. Harry Reid, Speaker Nancy Pelosi that snuffed E-Verify, ostracized the real ID act, the regular police detainment 247(g) program. Anything that contradicts their open border agenda, it's dead mostly in the Senate chambers. There is to much information to unfold in commenting, so go to these sites: VDARE, FAIRUS, JUDICIALWATCH, NUMBERSUSA, AMERICANPATROL, CAPSWEB & ALIPAC. The stakes are sky high-- because Amnesty means, access of millions to more welfare for the uneducated, low income newcomers. In conclusion--WE ALL KNOW MILLIONS MORE WILL COME, LOOKING FOR A THIRD AMNESTY? |