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Tuesday, March 7. 2023Tuesday morning linksUSA Powerlifting forced to allow biological males to compete against females following court order Federal Agency Advances Gas Stove Proposal From Commissioner Who Floated Ban COVID hysteria was engineered Mollie Hemingway: "We Are In An Information War, And It's Being Waged By Government Agencies" The Passion of Scott Adams - Once whetted, the appetite of the woke beast is insatiable. But one senses it is nearly sated in its hate feast against Scott Adams. ASIAN VOTERS MOVE RIGHT Victor Davis Hanson: Life Among The Ruins DEMS KEEP PUSHING THE LIMITS: ‘SO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?’ Unpopular, Polarizing, and Ineffective Affirmative action’s days may finally be numbered. The Decent Idea Buried in Trump's Goofy 'Freedom Cities' Plan Don't we have enough messed-up cities? Trackbacks
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Re: the USA Powerlifting story.
The only way this is going to get resolved is if the women athletes themselves push it over the edge. They all need to simply drop out of any competition where a man is competing. To be most effective they should wait and take their action at the last moment just as they step up to compete. And they have to accept that they may well be abandoned by the very same athletic organizations that are forced to accept the male athletes. SO be it. Wait until the event and the cameras are rolling and walk away. Western countries are running critically low on ammunitions as they continue to give it to Ukraine. Do you really think this is serendipity? This is by intent. Why, you may ask don't we simply contract to replenish our stock of weapons and ammunition? Why indeed, Also not serendipity. There are bureaucrats within our government who are actively working to engineer this critical low inventory of weapons and ammo. Don't believe it? Take just a few billions of those dollars we sprinkle all over Ukraine and rain them down on our home grown munitions industry and see how fast they could produce the ammo. But apparently we aren't doing it. Why? Because their intent is to weaken us for the coming WW III.
QUOTE: Army plans to refill its dwindling munitions stockpile will ramp up over the coming months when it inks several new, multi-year production contracts with the new authority granted by Congress, according to a top Army official. 'Affirmative action’s days may finally be numbered.'
But its insidious cousin DEI's days are just getting underway. “You can’t assume that there is discrimination just because different groups have different outcomes"
Of course you can, lots of people do it all the time. In fact, that's what 'disparate impact' is all about. It's not logical, sure, but when has that ever stopped anybody from making illogical leaps? If women don't do as well as men in anything requiring feats of strength, for example, it's proof that the test is biased against women because we all know there is absolutely no physical difference between men and women. The belief that men are generally bigger and stronger than the average woman is simply a cultural myth. QUOTE: {The Civil Rights Act} also states clearly that nothing in the law requires an employer “to grant preferential treatment to any individual or group on account of any imbalance which may exist . . . in comparison with the total number or percentage of persons of such race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in any community, State, section or other area.” QUOTE: In 1971, the Supreme Court held in Griggs v .Duke Power Company that employers could not test applicants for jobs or promotions—even if the tests were “neutral on their face, and even if neutral in terms of intent”—if it resulted in fewer opportunities for blacks . . . Eight years later, the Court once again ignored the plain language of the Civil Rights Act and the stated intentions of the lawmakers who passed it. The author of the essay, Jason L. Riley, is the one ignoring the plain language of the Civil Right Act, which explicitly allows disparate impact cases if it is demonstrated that a particular employment practice results in a disparate impact but isn't "related for the position in question and consistent with business necessity". Jerryskids: for example, it's proof that the test is biased against women because we all know there is absolutely no physical difference between men and women. That would be incorrect. Under the Civil Rights Act, strength can be considered if it is "related for the position in question and consistent with business necessity". QUOTE: The Passion of Scott Adams Apparently, Scott Adams has a passion for segregation. QUOTE: To the question “Is it OK to be white” nearly half the black respondents answered “no, it is not OK to be white” or said they were uncertain. The phrase "It's OK to be White" was a troll introduced by white nationalists. Even then, only a minority rejected the phrase. (Also, the sample size was too small to reach any firm conclusions.) QUOTE: And, as we have also been taught, if you are racist, that means you are part of a “hate group.” If someone is a racist, that doesn't necessarily make them part of a hate group, which is a social group that collectively advocates hate or hostility towards a racial or religious or other segment of society. Disparate impact and DEI are politically crafted programs to replace affirmative action that is about to get thrown out.
What is Diversity? Clarence Thomas questions affirmative action. http://www.libertynation.com/what-is-diversity-clarence-thomas-questions-lefty-shibboleth/ indyjonesouthere: Clarence Thomas questions affirmative action.
That's a good example of disparate impact. Universities, including Harvard, generally provide preferential treatment to athletes (often in arcane sports, such as crew), legacies, dean’s list (frequently because of family donations), and the children of faculty. This preference is essentially affirmative action for well-to-do whites. But you noticeably ignored his comments on diversity.
indyjonesouthere: But you noticeably ignored his comments on diversity.
Justice Thomas: “I didn’t go to racially diverse schools, but there were educational benefits." Heh. That's funny. Thomas was an affirmative action diversity admission to Yale. Universities promote diversity to compensate for the disparate impact of ALDC (athlete, legacy, dean, children) policies. The quickest way to increase diversity at universities would be to end affirmative action for well-to-do whites. What happened to the "diversity" of having conservatives in academia. No one in academia wants to talk that kind of diversity. You keep dodging the question. What is diversity? What do the "academics" really mean by "diversity". As I first mentioned, It is just a replacement for affirmative action that is getting the heave ho. Do remember that affirmative action was always on a short timeline and we have arrived at the end. NO replacements accepted.
indyjonesouthere: What is diversity?
As YOU brought up the Supreme Court, disparate impact refers to diversity of race, color, religion, sex and national origin. In any case, the largest affirmative action program in universities is for well-to-do whites. indyjonesouthere: What happened to the "diversity" of having conservatives in academia. Modern conservatives have generally eschewed academics. QUOTE: Modern conservatives have generally eschewed academics. Like black folks have eschewed home ownership. We have Muslim outreach, black outreach and even tranny outreach. But no conservative outreach? What happened to the "inclusion" in DEI? That is a failing grade for the University leadership.
QUOTE: Quibble-DickZ: If someone is a racist, ... Yep, y'all see them every time y'all face a mirror. Are the African tribal chiefs the leaders of racist hate gangs for capturing and selling their neighbors into slave markets?
foxmarks: Like black folks have eschewed home ownership.
Redlining and other forms of discrimination and policies with disparate impact have inhibited the accumulation of generational wealth in African Americans families. indyjonesouthere: We have Muslim outreach, black outreach and even tranny outreach. But no conservative outreach? There are plenty of colleges that cater to conservatives. Many colleges include political perspective in DEI, though the primary thrust has been to increase participation of traditionally underserved communities. indyjonesouthere: Are the African tribal chiefs the leaders of racist hate gangs for capturing and selling their neighbors into slave markets?
No, because their activity wasn't due to racism but were crimes of opportunity. For some reason, you keep bringing this up. While slavery is ancient, the Atlantic slave trade fueled the implosion of sub-Saharan civilizations. The contradictions about race slavery inherent in American society led to bloody civil war followed by generations of racial oppression. DeGaulle: Are you sure they won't be too late?
Perhaps, but it is doubtful anyone will directy confront the West in the near term, especially after the Russian debacle in Ukraine. There are many problems with replenishing munitions stockpiles, including supply chain problems; but the primary problem has been the use of short term contracts. Businesses don't want to invest significant capital when they can't be sure there will be a buyer the following year. Long term contracts allow for better planning and more investment. Regardless, over the long run, the economic power of the West can overcome these difficulties. "supply chain problems"
You mean we depend on other nations for our critical defense supplies??? Would that be a civil war against the Democrat South followed by Democrat racial oppression?? Asking for a friend.
JustMe: You mean we depend on other nations for our critical defense supplies???
Some supplies chain problems are international, others are domestic. Supply chain problems and labor shortages are ubiquitous in the current economy. The original claim was that bureaucrats were intentionally creating shortages. We provided evidence that, in fact, the bureaucracy was moving to solve the problem. JustMe: Would that be a civil war against the Democrat South followed by Democrat racial oppression??
You probably mean the Democratic Party. If so, then yes, the Democratic Party was the political vehicle whites used to protect and extend slavery, and then to enforce racial oppression after the Civil War. Legal segregation only ended in the 1960s, when a Democratic president, Lyndon Johnson, signed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. A university that doesn't practice diversity and inclusion in its leadership and professorship can not teach diversity and inclusion to its students. We already know that the construction and use of DEI is to replace affirmative action which is used as a weapon against Asians and whites taking nearly all the slots in the more coveted universities. The universities have been using quotas to keep whites and Asians at bay.
How do crimes of opportunity become racism after the slaves are sold to other races? I will keep asking the question until progs can find an answer that does not reek of their personal insanity. And do note that more blacks were sold to Arabs and few N. African Arabs are black. Does it now become racist?
So not all colleges need cater to affirmative action or DEI.
Jacobson on different outcomes ... that is the purpose for promoting equity. Not enough diversity if merit is a deciding factor in race outcomes.
indyjonesouthere: How do crimes of opportunity become racism after the slaves are sold to other races?
When the buyers of the slaves institute a racist slavery system. To quote the U.S. Supreme Court: QUOTE: They {African Americans} had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit. He was bought and sold, and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever a profit could be made by it. indyjonesouthere: So not all colleges need cater to affirmative action or DEI.
No. However, most colleges engage in affirmative action policies for well-to-do whites. Anatole France : « La majestueuse égalité des lois, qui interdit au riche comme au pauvre de coucher sous les ponts, de mendier dans les rues et de voler du pain. »
No I think I got that correct. They are called "Democrats" and they are socialist not Democratic.
Epic Tucker Carlson Opening Annihilates Democrat/Deep State's Jan. 6 "Insurrection" Lie
15 minute video https://rumble.com/v2c1pb8-epic-tucker-carlson-opening-annihilates-democratdeep-states-jan.-6-insurrec.html indyjonesouthere: They are called "Democrats"
That's right. Democrat is the noun, Democratic is the adjective, and Democratic Party is the proper name. indyjonesouthere: and they are socialist not Democratic. There is no way to consider the Democratic Party of the antebellum period socialist in any sense of the word. Sorry. This is not legal behavior. The Congress was in session at the time to certify the Electoral College vote. Chansley pleaded guilty to obstructing Congress.
Was wondering when we'd get around to the biggesr hoax perpetuated by our Government on its citizens since the Russian collusion.thing..
Dems are shitting themselves over it. Who are ya gonna believe? The Quibble-DickZ or your own lyin' eyes? The bot has lost its mind ... did the Borg abandon your queries?
The tribal chiefs had a slavery system in force ... it was their main export. They even exported to the Arabs ... think of the chiefs as an equal opportunity exporter. To the highest bidder ... and there is more where they came from. The Irish would be pissed that you left them out of the equation. Obama isn't part Irish because he grew up in Belfast.
Liberty, equality, and fraternity. Liberty and equality of outcome are incompatible. Liberty and equity are signs of insanity in the population.
The Schiff/Cheney thuggers are not liking the sunshine. And then there is the Pelosi kid and her film and commentary. Oh, the shame.
History books that contain no lies are dull ... and he's in the history books.
indyjonesouthere: Liberty and equality of outcome are incompatible. Liberty and equity are signs of insanity in the population.
QUOTE: Equality means the state of being equal, and equity adds the element of justice or fairness; it’s possible that “equal” treatment does not produce “equity” when conditions and circumstances are very different. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/equality-vs-equity-difference Perfect Liberty and perfect equality of outcomes are incompatible, but that would be black and white thinking, of course. Otherwise, you are left with Anatole France’s “majestic equality.” It isn't in the Constitution and that is our history. Anatole and Majestic equality equate to equity which is not liberty nor equality of birth. Majestic equality is the natural outcome of the Vendee massacre. Keep the poets out of politics and the politics out of poets.
Pretending something doesn’t exist doesn’t make it go away. Universities, including Harvard, generally provide preferential treatment to athletes (often in arcane sports, such as crew), legacies, dean’s list (frequently because of family donations), and the children of faculty; or ALDC. This preference is essentially affirmative action for well-to-do whites.
indyjonesouthere: equal opportunity exporter
Slavery is an ancient system. The trans-Atlantic slave trade accelerated the process. In any case, as you point out, it was primarily an opportunistic system rather than a racial system, as in the United States. Even in Rome, a slave could become a citizen. But, in the United States, only Blacks were chattel, and Blacks could not become citizens. See Dred Scott v. Sandford. indyjonesouthere: Obama isn't part Irish because he grew up in Belfast. His mother was of primarily British and Irish ancestry. Harvard's first collision with equal opportunity was it's prejudice against Jews and it had to answer for it.
As Scotus pointed out, Harvard has been using quotas for years. Asians were limited to 17-20 percent of the admitted and no more. They are going to pay for their lack of diversity and inclusion once again. The DEI program is just smoke and chaff to try to hide their prejudices. If they cannot perform using academic merit it is likely they will be sued into bankruptcy. We just had Oberlin college pay millions in their quest over racist behavior against a private party. Does Harvard really want to be next? The problem for blacks in the US is that they have never been made aware that they were trafficked by their own race and sold to the highest bidder. They have seldom been made aware that there was slavery of every race and it is still going on and blacks do not seem at all concerned that slavery in Africa still exists. I suspect no one teaches that in any part of academia as that defeats the narrative that they are extra special victims needing help from extra special progs that do absolutely nothing about the current slave trade. Progs traffic in the slave narrative for votes and profit.
indyjonesouthere: Anatole and Majestic equality equate to equity which is not liberty nor equality of birth.
No. It shows that blindness to gross social injustice doesn’t make the injustice disappear. That requires equality of opportunity. You continue to ignore Harvard's failed diversity and inclusion.
And equality of opportunity requires merit and in the current academic wasteland it would seem merit is last on the list.
indyjonesouthere: The problem for blacks in the US is that they have never been made aware that they were trafficked by their own race and sold to the highest bidder.
Oh, gee whiz. You sound like Rand Paul trying to ‘educate’ Black students at Howard University about Black history. Well, you sure as hell aren't and neither is academia.
indyjonesouthere: You continue to ignore Harvard's failed diversity and inclusion.
We directly addressed it and discussed its relationship to legacy admissions. That you ignore the point is not an argument. You are still ignoring the idea of merit in affirmative action or DEI. You simply want color diversity.
5-year shortages in various munitions, and more inventory going out the door. In the meantime, I suppose we have to hope like hell we don’t need them. Good planning, Joe and comrades. I never underestimate his ability to f**k things up, and especially when he cherishes intersectionality over competence.
I never worry about the long-term vitality of the Military Industrial Complex, they’ll be fine. Thomas was an affirmative action admit that had to meet stringent standards predicting a high outcome for success. Those requirements are long gone.
And what is a bigger affirmative action program than sports. And guess what, universities control the legacy, sports, faculty, etc. admissions and could do away with them all tomorrow. They don’t because they don’t want to kill the golden goose, and AA is just a way to assuage their guilt. Because we all know, diversity adds nothing of value in the end. I don’t think anyone would quibble with ending legacy admissions, other than the people relying on it. Disparity (equals discrimination) is term for race hucksters. Of course he plead guilty because the entire weight of the government was on his ass and he would have spent many more years in jail if he didn't give in to their "lawfare". These Nazi bastards in the DOJ and the DC legal system have got to go. Hanging would be too good for them. This is worse than some banana republic. What a f'in disgrace.
indyjonesouthere: You are still ignoring the idea of merit in affirmative action or DEI.
We have addressed affirmative action. Note how Hoss directly addressed the point we raised. Let us know when you decide to make substantive replies. Hoss: And guess what, universities control the legacy, sports, faculty, etc. admissions and could do away with them all tomorrow. They don’t because they don’t want to kill the golden goose, and AA is just a way to assuage their guilt.
That's right. So, they are being forced to end affirmative action for underrepresented minorities, but allowed to keep affirmative action for well-to-do whites. ALDC admissions are a type of systemic racism. It's race-neutral on its face, but it helps perpetuate the disparate treatment of the past. Hoss: In the meantime, I suppose we have to hope like hell we don’t need them.
It will have an effect like Lend Lease. It will allow the United States and its allies to affect events in Europe on the cheap, while building the supply chain in case of future conflict. OneGuy: Of course he plead guilty because the entire weight of the government was on his ass and he would have spent many more years in jail if he didn't give in to their "lawfare".
Everyone charged with a crime is under the weight of the government. How did you think it worked? But they're white, so maybe that's the difference. Chansley is on video illegally entering the Capitol as part of an effort to obstruct the certification of the Electoral College. indyjonesouthere: And equality of opportunity requires merit and in the current academic wasteland it would seem merit is last on the list.
It's not new, though. As has been true for generations, universities put merit below ALDC (athlete, legacy, dean, children), perpetuating existing power structures of the primarily white and well-to-do. But you only notice affirmative action when it negatively affects white people, not the generations where affirmative action for well-to-do whites locked out minorities—and still do. You ignore merit at every turn. Your only goal is to create placeholder positions for those who lack merit.
Show me their entrance exams which are a measure of previous merit. You and I both know that they will sue to gain entrance if their scores are higher than your supposed white transgressors. And we also know that in the Bakke decision that whites with superior scores to blacks were not allowed to bump them from their positions in the classroom. The universities have been practicing reverse discrimination for decades yet blacks still are unable to compete in any number. There are far too many blacks that think "acting white" in the classroom is just not black enough.
Hey! A substantive reply!
Nearly half of Harvard admissions are ALDC. To remind you, those are athletes (often in arcane sports, such as crew), legacies, dean’s list (frequently because of family donations), and the children of faculty. About 3/4 would have been rejected without the ALDC boost. ALDC admissions are also much whiter than the overall applicant pool. That makes it affirmative action for well-to-do whites, a system that has been in place for generations. So, really, it comes down to this. If you're a poor urban youth and want to get accepted to a top university, you just have to study hard, get good grades, and stay out of trouble. Oh, and join a crew team, have a parent who is an alumnus or professor at the university, and make a large contribution to the university. See, it's equal opportunity. Just ask Anatole France. And provide some semblance of merit or send the meritless home and save the student loan costs for something productive. And the black athletes are all Mensa scholars? The fun part of watching white liberal parents buying their kids into college, as they were doing in California, is seeing them wind up in front of a judge. I don't recall any black parents in front of the judge except to sue their way into the classroom with a little help from a government lawyer. Good riddance to race based affirmative action and can't wait for Scotus to dump DEI as the latest race-based leg up for non-merit performance.
indyjonesouthere: The fun part of watching white liberal parents buying their kids into college, as they were doing in California, is seeing them wind up in front of a judge.
ALDC is perfectly legal—and traditional. (Yale adopted crew in 1843.) What happened with Lori Loughlin and others is that they wanted the advantage of the A part of ALDC, but without actually having to pull an oar. indyjonesouthere: And provide some semblance of merit So, you are against affirmative action for well-to-do whites? |