We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
I agree, it wasn't an 'invasion' because they couldn't invade for some reason.
And it's not a "Stand your ground" either. It's a "Castle Doctrine".
This is a very good example of why everyone should own guns and know how to use them safely.
Once people start shooting at you, you can no longer run away unless you can outrun a bullet. The homeowner had no choice at that point but to try and neutralized the shooters. I am glad he managed to do so. I am not glad that three men died, but life is not an action movie, nobody can shoot a gun out of someone's hand or just shoot them in the arm or leg, especially when bullets are already coming in your direction, you have to aim for center mass.
If he was not armed, I doubt that the homeowner and his mother would be alive today.
It's sad that three kids were killed. It's sadder that those kids put themselves in a position to be killed. Any guess where those kids' fathers are?
Mr. Jenkins is indeed a good American. It's obvious he cares about his neighbors and neighborhood. I agree with him that a youth center would be a better use of money than the alternate uses he mentioned but the solution is going to be more elusive than spending money on a program or building. Kids have to be instilled with a sense of honesty, humility, and morality. Church is one place to get that but it has to be taught, lived, and enforced in a family.
But nobody forced them to do this. Nobody held a gun to their heads and said "You've got to shoot and rob folks".
This was their idea. Yeah, poor life choices often end up shortening that life considerably, but there comes a point where you simply shake your head and go "Well, this is what they chose" - like you would hearing about a BASE jumper who pulled the chute a bit late, or a Wingsuit flyer who misjudged a close ground approach.
They wanted the rush of cheating death, but sometimes death wins.
There's a deeper issue here. America runs a catch and release program for feral kids. They get into trouble, and then they are put back on the street; even after they have committed serious crimes. That can't continue. Kids of any age who have proven themselves to be a threat to society should be removed, and euthanized. Some people will say that such actions are too harsh, but I don't think so. We simply can't allow millions of young thugs to destroy our society. The only people around should be good people.
Neither the parents, church, or school could steer them in the right direction by instructing them in what is proper behavior for a civilized people. Perhaps none of the instructors even new the proper behavior themselves and the government will only throw money at an ineffective program because that is the behavior of government.
You can build good schools and good youth centres but when you fill them up with rotten kids they become rotten institutions. There are more and more rotten kids being raised by rotten parents who will go on to produce more rotten kids. The only thing that will fix these kids is 10 hours a day of hard work. That is never going to happen again so the cycle of crime and bloodshed will continue unabated.
As Whitney said, since the shooter is black, we won't hear cries to take AR15s away based on this case.
But the bigger issue that nobody talks about is responsibility. When I father a child, it is my responsibility to make sure that the child is not only fed, clothed and sheltered, but trained to be a good person. If I neglect the child and he becomes an angry ball of hate then everyone in his path is going to suffer.
Now there are times when good parents do their duty and the child doesn't respond. Then it gets trickier.
But for FAR too many American children, there are no parents at home to give them love and guidance. That is the root of this problem, not guns or lack of community centers.
Be a man and raise your son. Most of the problems will go away or become more manageable if you clean up your own messes.