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Monday, June 22. 2015
- He claims that the harder you exercise, the more your appetite tends to diminish. I find that to be true. He had to ask Mrs. BD to make sure I eat four bites of protein daily at the least, for nourishment. Like a hard-boiled egg or a slice of ham. I don't want it and I often don't do it. As I have reported, he works me quite hard so that I stumble out of there with weariness and muscles burning. I don't want to eat hardly anything anymore. He insists I have to have at least a small amount of carbs daily too, but I usually just don't want it. It's an interesting phenomenon. All I want is water and caffeine, and a little wholesome (organic) Indian tobacco. Before this process began, I was mostly ready for anything tasty (but nothing suqary) despite having no meaningful weight issue. Now, I have little appetite and can never come close to finishing a really nice restaurant meal. I try to force it to be sociable, but I can't do it. Everything is a doggy bag worth two more left-over suppers. We go out to places with friends often, weekly at least, and I feel embarrassed by how little delicious stuff I want.
- He seems to feel I can lose another few lbs or so, around my middle. I can see what he means, but my trousers are already trying to fall off. Says it can only be done by the right diet - meat and eggs, low carbs. No problem. He says people tend to feel that they have to finish their meals - whatever they are served - and thus lose their sense of what is sufficient. They ignore the moment when any hunger they may have felt is gone and disconnect from their bodies. Stop then. Don't just go on eating mindlessly until the thing is finished, as if somebody else was in control of you. "Clean your plate" was a Depression-era admonishment for children which created two generations of fat people. What is sufficient to maintain, even under a rigorous fitness program, is not very much as long as it is protein-heavy in proportion. Buffets are the worst.
- He says "Lite Aerobics," like fast walking, jogging, road bicycling, or 40 minutes on the elliptical or the treadmill, are better than sedentary but not valuable for building fitness, endurance, or for fat-burning. They can keep you mobile but not improve fitness. He says ten minutes of maximum-intensity aerobics is much better. For now, for my "off-days" he likes 10 min intense bike for warm-up, then a rest, then 10 mins intense elliptical, then maybe 5-10 mins intense rowing. Or 2 out of the 3, mix and match. Efficient exercise. I still cannot do 10 mins of intense elliptical but I can do "relaxed" elliptical for an hour. Waste of time, he says - and boring. I am also told by my doc that it is the intensity which burns a little fat, enhances endurance, and induces collateral cardiac supply (which will help you survive your first heart attack). Those are good things. Gotta feel the burn or it isn't worth your time. No pain, no gain. That applies to all exercise, apparently. Brief, high intensity for resistance or for cardio rather than time spent. My doc is in great shape.
- Factoid to remember: Even high-intensity aerobics, verging on anaerobic, will not burn your fat if you have carbs on board. Your body preferentially burns bagels over body fat. It's easier because carbs become sugar - cheap energy - during digestion. A bagel = sugar.
- Overloading muscles is the only way to improve strength. You injure your muscles, and they come back stronger. That strength is what improves endurance. A surprising amount of that "good" damage comes from the Eccentric Phase of weight exercises - not when you are pulling or pushing, but when you are doing the opposite in a slow, controlled fashion. He thinks I am ready for "Negative Reps." He advised me not to bother with high-rep exercises.
Well, it's all interesting physiology. Physiology is a fascinating topic.
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I'm about to scythe another two passes over the backyard, and, if it doesn't rain, take a bike commute to the store.
A trainer has not been consulted.
- Factoid to remember: Even high-intensity aerobics, verging on anaerobics, will not burn your fat if you have carbs on board.
You misspelled myth, and yes I'm aware of the caped hero Taubes, et al. The factoid is that in the presence of a meat, dairy, fat, and oil diet, carbs will add weight.
Without them the vegan diet is documented in the largest study ever undertaken to be the fastest way to permanent weight loss and a restored metabolism. To say nothing of its even more documented benefits to health.
Whether your preconceptions can be suspended or not, BD, you're killing yourself. Of course you're losing weight...and of course you feel like hell and have lost your appetite...
While it is true that Overloading muscles is a way to improve strength it is not the only way. That technique is best suited for a younger man and not for an "average" man. All excercise builds strength and muscle. Heavy excercise will eventually injure you. So unless you are a 24 year old body builder lite aerobics for 30 minutes, an hour or four hours is the best "compromise" to build strength and endurance.
Your body needs protein, fat and carbs. Simple as that! ALL of the popular diets are fad diets with little value but thanks to our bodies ability to adjust also have little harm. Eat from all food groups, don't restrict or eliminate food groups and especially don't restrict your diet based on the faux-science and superstition based beliefs you find in the popular diet and food/health books. They all ironically contradict each other and their underlying message seems to be "trust me, I know what's right and no one else does".
Re: Trainers. Without exception they are all too young to personally know enough about life and old age issues. In general they have a year or two of community college and have been taught by others with exactly the same background. They are generally fit and this helps with the myth but who wasn't fit at their age. 99% of the trainers will look like everyone else when they are 65 and they will not be any healthier or live any longer then anyone else. The thing is they don't know (yet) what they don't know. They are full of youth and ignorance and simply cannot understand life yet. Wait until they have three children or get cancer or a couple of sports injuries and are over 50 and see if their ideas and training techniques still make sense to them.
I agree with GoneWithTheWind.
The high intensity stuff is great - but only in moderation, like once a week for an over 50 athlete. College age kids can do this 5x per week and get away with it...for awhile. Then they'll be so overtrained they'll need 6 months of recovery workouts. Masters age athletes need more time to recover.
If you're a masters age athlete or just want to get more fit, you'd benefit from high intensity cardio 1x per week, weights 2x per week, and LSD cardio 2-3x per week (30 min to several hours per session, depending on the sport and time limitations and your enjoyment level.) Of course, there are more variations that you can add while still keeping it simple - but definitely not all-high-intensity-all-the-time.
Lots of other brown pearls in there from your trainer - many are half-truths that need more context to be truly helpful.
that "good" damage comes from the Eccentric Phase of weight exercises
It certainly brings the pain. Whether it is better for building muscle or not is a different question.
I spent most of my life doing hi-rep workouts, trying to build "endurance."
What a waste. Builds slow twitch muscles at best, and wears everything out.
Last year, after finally sticking w/ a leg routine including heavy squats, I did my company 3-miler, and couldn't believe how light everything felt. That's a big help for endurance.
Heavy weights are definitely the way to go.
And all those studies that say exercise doesn't help lose weight are nutty. Just like you, I've seen appetite decrease w/ hard exercise. Challenge is, the appetite will come back, and persist even if you stray from the workouts.
GWTW is wrong here. Stay away from carbs, do the heavy reps. It's a good feeling.
Appetite is related to metabolism and BD is hurting his. There will be a day of reckoning when unsustainability rears its head.
Plus, all those new free radicals aren't getting zapped because of all the necessary anti-oxidants in half a steak.
Lastly, the protein myth is just that. There is zero evidence of animal-based protein being either necessary or healthy. Quite the contrary.
Myths and fads abound, among them the fad of the contemporary backyard-grilling, drive-thru meat-centric diet, a situation that along with being 50, 70, or 90, was never paleo anything.
And yes, GWTW is proud of its rambling opinions.
It's your body and your life, of course, but...I would strongly recommend that you might consider hiring a trainer over the age of 50. It sounds like you may be overtraining and that your trainer doesn't have a clue. There are some simple things that you can do to monitor whether or not you are overtraining and overstressing your body to where it can't recover as quickly as it should.
For example, what's your pulse upon waking? Is your trainer having you check and record it every morning? Because he should be:
"Morning heart rate data, if tracked regularly, can be an easy, effective method for monitoring fatigue levels, how well you’re adapting to workouts, and can help prevent long-term overtraining. Considering it takes less than a minute to perform, there’s no excuse for not adding this simple practice to your daily routine to ensure you’re training optimally and recovering well between workouts."
It's a simple and cheap and quick way to monitor your response to potential training. Don't forget you're not a spring chicken anymore!
don't you people have peasants to do that for you?
There is zero evidence that animal based protein is harmful either.
There is zero evidence that free radicals actually do harm or that anti-oxidants actually do any good. It is a theory and not even a good theory.
There is zero evidence that carbs are bad for you.
All of these claims are simply opinions without any actual evidence to suport them.
You're funny. The last time you spouted off one of your many varied lengthy opinions and were soundly rebutted with hard objective evidence from science, you just denied it, demanding it take some other form or something.
Why waste my time engaging a known walking fallacy and noted egotist?
I think it is a fallacy by an egotist to think that you actually rebutted my previous arguement with hard objective evidence. Is that what you truely believe? If you had presented anything of substance I would have either refuted it or agreed with it. If I didn't respond, which I assume is what you interpreted as being soundly rebutted, it was because your claims were unworthy of a response.
Please! Prove that animal based protein is harmful to consume.
Please! Prove that free radicals (I don't mean Bill Ayers) are killing us left and right.
Please! Prove that carbs cause early death or illness>
I would be more than happy to discuss any of those wild claims with you.
You're still funny: Now you cite your response, such as it's already know it to be, as a test of proof. Hilarious. You double-down on one fallacy by compounding it with another like it.
And just how many times can you be confronted by proof before granting it credibility? Say, four? Nine? Thirty?
On the other hand, given your lofty knowledge - all of it around here either anecdotal or conjectured - eventually it'll come to compose a scientific proof. I mean, that's exactly where your thinking goes. Reality bows to your preconceptions.
Idea: Quantum researchers may want to explore your effect on composing reality with your mind. Give 'em a call. Fame and notoriety await.
I have to say you get points for creative evasion...