We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Military executes brilliantly. The usual nincompoops around White House err, and err, and err. PowerLine:
Military and intelligence professionals executed an important mission brilliantly, carrying out their assigned task of killing Osama bin Laden and dumping his body into the ocean. Ever since, the administration has undercut the professionals' achievement with a succession of now-inoperative accounts of the raid's climactic moments....
All of these narratives--apart from the disadvantage, in some instances, of being untrue--share a common defect. They assume that the SEALs are in the dock as accused murderers, and need to be seen as acting in self-defense. This is ridiculous.
By Tuesday night, the movie was looking like it might be accused of ripping off Patton.
Here it is two days later, and if they make a movie out of what we know now, it will look like a rip-off of Rashomon.
If, in 2008, I were to say in public "Obama could take down Osama bin Laden, and handle it in such a way that it turns into a defeat both for His administration and the country" -- I would have been called a racist. And yet. Three years later, here we are.
Morgan K Freeberg
Another reason why 2012 will be the year to decide how much longer we want to watch this sad comedy of Obama and his idiot administration. And, by the way, could this be the year we get out from under the insanity of believing the UN is so fabulous and downgrade it to a house of leeches and buffoons (no insult to leeches).
It astounds me that, on another thread, I raised a few simple questions. Not questions that bothered me, but questions that actually opened up a window to the idiocy of how all this was handled after the raid.
For some reason, people began questioning my language and motives, even as I clearly pointed out that (as one Yale Law Professor said) the military and administration executed a terrific raid, but forgot to do the post raid PR planning.
It's hard to sit here, as a non-supporter of Obama, and not be pleased with the results and give him the credit he deserves. But to do so means watching how his supporters have blithely overlooked the hypocrisy and errors of his years in leadership prior to this. They gloat at how THEIR president did something "OUR" president couldn't (well, Bush was not someone I was fond of...which leads to a whole host of other questions about how they view the world and the Right specifically). They indulge themselves in his "toughness" of mind and will.
All the while, they forget that to accomplish what he did, he utilized forces, laws, guidelines, and procedures that he had resisted or opposed as both candidate AND president.
But nevermind that - this was a great win worthy of fireworks, celebrations and laudatory commentary. Yet when some of us (like myself) were less than effusive, his supporters stare at wonderment thinking "you have to be racist to not celebrate. You must TRULY HATE him."
Honestly, things that have been said to me.
No, I reply. I am happy, and I credit him. I am not so happy that I will dance in the street. I am not so happy that I will flow with tears and love for our strong president. I won't because, frankly, OBL wasn't THAT important and Obama hasn't come out and mentioned that he basically repudiated (refudiated? LOL) his previous policies and beliefs.
Even if he did state that this was the case, it's still not all that amazing because all he really did was say "OK, do it".
It was a professional SEAL team that actually pulled it off, and he gets credit for them doing their job.
But if it turned into a hash, you can be sure his supporters would've rushed to his side and comforted him for still being strong. In other words - he's "lucky" these men are such professionals and so well trained.
So many other situations like this have gone poorly and reflected badly upon the president in question. Obama has every right to glow at this success. But the amount of credit he's earned is limited for a variety of factors because it simply wasn't "all his". But they've tried to push that lie on us.
The raid seems to have gone well - except for crashing the helicopter, why do we always do that? But the lead up might be the bigger coup. They're now saying the CIA had the site pinpointed as early as August. That is a long time to watch for couriers and listen in on communications / conversations. There must have been enough info to bring down all of al-Qaeda. And there must be plenty of traitorous Pakistani military and secret police that are looking over there shoulders.