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Monday, October 27. 2008

Monday links

Biggest danger for hunters is heart attack. Maybe, but when it's your time to go, why not go while hunting or fishing? You really don't want to crap out while atop a wife or girlfriend and leave them unfulfilled, and with an unpleasant memory of your face turning grey-blue.

How the McCain health care plan would help everybody. Obama's advisors preferred McCain's plan.

LAT refuses to release Obama video. The Khalidi video might damage him. "Might"?

Watch the TED spread, not the Dow. The TED matters.(h/t, Viking) Indices matter.

Why we suck. Jules on autism and other topics

Palin's treatment by the press. Driscoll. I heard a 15 year-old girl this weekend say "Palin makes me barf." I prudently said nothing.

Tired of "the Vietnam effect." Me too.

Working for a non-profit. AVI

Obama's inauguration speech is already in its first draft. Message: Don't bother voting, Repubs. Related: Why there is hope for a McCain victory.

Another reason the press is going easy on Obama-Biden. Access.

Obama: A celebrity the world will adore. Maybe, but who cares? World adoration is not the job description. That's for Elvis.

A turn in the housing market. It will be slow, but it will happen eventually.

David Thompson takes a look at redistribution in practice.

Barone: Beware of the early exit polls

Meteorological image from Theo

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That's funny NJ. Your thoughts on the heart attack. Though that had always been my plan... I had never looked at it from the womans point of view. Not a good image you paint. Time to re-take up hunting and fishing I guess.

By the way... I don't care for my name being libeled. I would appreciate something being done about that.
#1 Luther McLeod on 2008-10-27 12:25 (Reply)
i think if a guy "craps out" on top of me, an orgasm will be the least of my concerns. hopefully this will never be a problem.
#2 kab on 2008-10-27 12:43 (Reply)
kab... and yet another perspective. :) What for years seemed a simple plan has now assumed multiple liabilities. So off to the hunting store I go.

You out there, BD? I'm having deja vu all over again. Would you mind straightening this out? Some clarification would be appreciated as to whose 'opinion' more deserves to see the light of day.
#2.1 Luther McLeod on 2008-10-27 13:56 (Reply)
how tough would any hunter be if the prey were capable of shooting a gun. i say the more dead hunters the better.
#2.2 pete on 2008-10-27 15:32 (Reply)
I've hunted those prey as well pete. I'll now leave you alone to enjoy your broccoli-cheese casserole.
#2.2.1 Luther McLeod on 2008-10-27 15:50 (Reply)
your gun must compensate for your tiny penis.
#2.2.1.1 pete on 2008-10-28 22:49 (Reply)
I've hunted those prey as well pete


sure you have, doesn't count shooting women and children pal.
#2.2.1.2 pete on 2008-10-28 22:51 (Reply)
NJ - I immediately grabbed that pic from Theo's, too. I like puzzles and trick questions. In this case, "See if you can spot the hidden clouds!"

Re: the exit polls, the one thing that always amazes me is that more any people don't talk about opening and closing the voting booths nationwide at the same time. Okay, so some people have to work extra late, and some people have to start extra-early...for one day...every four years? And?

Having lived in CA for fifty-odd years, there's no bigger pisser than to see the election already being called on the 6 pm news just as you're heading out the door to vote. Yet nobody ever talks about it. During the entire 2004 election, I read one article on it, trying to push the idea. Hmph.

Sorry, Luther, no libel involved. Just my opinion. I've amended the statement somewhat, check it out.
#3 Dr. Mercury on 2008-10-27 13:21 (Reply)
Just your opinion, Doc? That is, something you can't prove? Why did you delete the entire thread and then delete the comments I made defending Habu on the 'coin' post? You blocked Luther and me so that your 'opinions' reign as truth with no way for us to defend or prove that we are not 'unhinged', 'nasty', 'despicable', or 'vile'. As for you making up the names on the mushroom cloud post - you did. You quote me using only part of what I said and then block me from coming back. I haven't seen a blogger in my years on the Internet use that tactic. It is a form of libel when you make someone out to 'vile' and then erase all proof and suspend their ability to respond.

Here's an example of how you whipped us good after you banned us.

"Ah, I just got your "hell hath no fury" post. I'm not sure why you're so angry. You're an asswipe, you know that. You bitch and moan at everything you see and pretend like the whole place is your blog site. I "intruded" on your and Larry's thread the other day? How totally clueless is that? It's a "blog site", Meta, and it's not yours, and it's not somehow "in the public domain" where you have some kind of "right" to mouth off. Now why don't you just go start your own site and then you can yell and scream at the world for all you're worth and all of us here will be a lot happier.
#6.1.2.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Dr. Mercury on 2008-10-26 18:56 (Reply)

I don't care about you making me part of your post, nor do I care about your assertion that I'm unhinged. I do care that you have made accusations that cannot be proven, but I think readers will get that part.

What I'd like to see is proof from this quoted comment of yours that "all of us here would be a lot happier" if I left the site. Can you prove that for me, please? If you can, of course, I will leave gracefully.
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#3.1 Meta on 2008-10-27 17:34 (Reply)
Meta,

I was unaware of what you have mentioned here, knowing only of his treatment of my post and pointing me toward the same door he apparently shoved you toward, and I'm guessing Luther the same.

Meta, as you know some people can handle power and others abuse power. Ostensibly Maggies Farm, no doubt in exchange for services they can not perform, have turned the keys of the castle over to one of those who cannot handle power ,nor will brook any opinion that falls outside their thought......and of course there's always a reason. Believe me I have been barred from some good sites because I have dared challenge the power. Politico banned me double quick because I brought facts instead of assertions to the argument and blew away the lead writer...bingo ..gone

But if you where barred and the continued to be chastised, that is the act of a coward, and that would be Dr. Mercury.

I missed all the fireworks.

I am rapidly losing any interest in being anything but someone who comes to a blog, puts in my two cents and leaves. I rarely engage in any discussions for it 's a waste of time and you usually end up running into a Politico or Dr. Mercury.
#3.1.1 Habu on 2008-10-27 18:06 (Reply)
Look at it as a harbinger of possible things to come, Habu. With those who fail to acknowledge the infallibility of the anointed one hauled off to the oulag for reeducation, or worse, to the cold slopes of northern Alaska far from human habitation. So as to let not their words sully the beneficence of perfection. Thanks for your words.
#3.1.1.1 Luther McLeod on 2008-10-27 18:52 (Reply)
Are we done with Viet Nam yet? Well Ace of Spades in fact we are not. In fact we will not be until those who lived in that time are gone, and then it will still continue. Nor should it go away. No more than any war we have fought.
Should we forget the Revolutionary or Civil War? WWI and WWII, Korea? And what is your case in having us forget? Is it too painful, divisive, or just inconvenient to remember the past?

Right now we are about to have another Vietnam on November 4th. The resolution whether you care to face it is squarely whether we will remain a republic or become a nation that has freely chosen to become a socialist country, the only argument being whether it will be the soft socialism of Sweden or the hard communism of the Soviet Union. Many are betting a soft beginning with a steady ratcheting up toward loss of independent individual freedoms. We know that Ayers & Company seriously contemplated killing 25,000,000 US Citizens who would resist “reeducation”. Now that may have been thirty years ago but if you believe those souls have all converted to "America the Beautiful" then you are living in a dream land.

So you may haul down your colors in favor of a collective amnesia over Vietnam but I assure you the tocsin that sounded for that war sounds the same note for every war for freedom we have ever fought, and millions of us will answer the call. If it is a communist nation that 48-50% vote in then it will be civil war for me, for Marxism and Capitalism do not mix, and I will not be ruled by those who will dissolve our Constitution by “any means necessary” as they have been promising for the past forty years in favor of the dissident's gulag and silence of speech.

I suggest you stand by to be greatly diasappointed.
#4 Habu on 2008-10-27 15:51 (Reply)
Habu,

Thank you. Yeah, I didn't like the way he was mocking you and making you small and I said so. He beat me bad and then carried it down to the post, "The Pause That Refreshes", so he could continue the beating. He did amend two of his more vile comments on the 'coin' thread after he deleted everything. He is accepting 'Meta Mockery' on his other post to which I am currently banned. He made up those commenters just after midnight last night, and I watched him in sitemeter do it. There wasn't one visitor in sitemeter for the hours of those 'comments' on that site.... that is, except Dr. Mercury, and he was on for a couple of hours. Several of the comments came in around the same time, and then he rearranged the times. I watched it happen all at once. I partner on a blog and know how it's done.

Anyway, it is revolting to have someone so in need of power and control that they go to such lengths as he has. I like this blog because of the content, and I've watched BD, Barrister, Dr. Bliss and occasionally the others really take it on the chin, and not once has any of them been rude in return. One bad apple.............

Thanks again... Meta
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#4.1 Meta on 2008-10-27 21:27 (Reply)
It is not right. I don't have to agree with you, Habu, Luther or anyone else - including Doc. You folks are smart and articulate. You are willing to debate and discuss. You do it without profanity and often with humor. There should be no censorship. If you lose the debate, so be it.

Buddy Larsen rarely posts here anymore. How many others will be lost if this behavior persists?

I ask you all to remain, if only for my selfish benefit.

The next few years are going to be challenging. It would be nice to have a place where there is a breath of fresh air.

Let's discuss ideas and events without censorship. What good is a blog if no one "blogs"?
#4.1.1 Barrett on 2008-10-27 22:58 (Reply)
Barrett,

You are correct that the next few years are going to be difficult. Unless a blog such as this one can gain participants, or unless it has pockets so deep that a 2 year deep recesssion won't affect it then it will wither and die.

Meta's investigative discovery is so extrodinarily damning that for anyone to continue to support this blog is reprehensible in my world. People who would allow themselves to be that manipulated simply to see their thoughts on a screen have no honor, character, or self worth. I said once I would not be back and I dishonored that pledge. It will not happen twice. The credibility of Maggies farm has been destroyed, for who could ever trust their word?

If Meta is correct then Maggies Farm knows what it must do, but then with his skills how would we know he hasn't remained the puppet master. Maggies Farm has poisoned their well beyond Superfund help.

I can see the dessication and calcine remains beginning to form. It is condign punishment.
#4.1.1.1 Habu on 2008-10-28 00:24 (Reply)
Habu,

Like many, they became enamored of superficial glory, drawn to 'hits' like a moth to flame.

Meta is astute... learned and a value to this blog. But yet she is allowed to be ridiculed and mocked with no chance of redemption.

Yes... she can be a harsh mistress. But who would desire anything less? At heart.

Condign... yes, aptly said.
#4.1.1.1.1 Luther McLeod on 2008-10-28 00:46 (Reply)
Habu,

I am correct. This isn't the first time I've seen it.
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#4.1.1.1.2 Meta on 2008-10-28 01:33 (Reply)

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