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Tuesday, October 21. 2008
Would the last honest reporter please turn on the lights? Orson Scott Card (read his bio on that page!) h/t, Synthstuff. We like Orson Card, but do not know where he blogs these days.
Shulman on how social class plays into the election - and how it affects the "opinion-makers." I am afraid that the "opinion-makers" all fantasize that they could be polo players with Locust Valley Lockjaw, hobnobbing with the Groton and Andover and Choate and Hotchkiss and Deerfield grads instead of getting stuck with the socially-marginal hacks in Washington. Some of us at Maggie's may be "elite," but Sarah represents our view of the soul of America.
America's biggest enemy is cynicism? I am not falling for that cliched BS. One of America's best hopes has always been her cynicism towards, distrust of, and mocking of politicians and their aspirations for easy jobs, power, and personal validation. John McCain excepted.
Speaking of cynicism, "transformative"? You want transformative back to the 1930s and 1970s?
Where would Obama get the $ to suckle his wards? Well put. Wards of The State is what it's about. Gimme.
Palin's "absence of structured thinking." Fair enough, Ann. But name me one national pol with "structured thinking." Pols don't do that: they do political thinking. It's different. If they were rocket scientists, they'd be busy designing rockets. Generally speaking, they aren't too smart and not very wise - just clever and calculating about their personal goals.
Images: We are still permitted to write-in Papoon for President when we vote. He has a chance! As I recall, he stood for "One Organism, One Vote," and hoped to win the previously disenfranchised and marginalised Bacterial Community.
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Funny you mentioned his bio, because that is what stood out to me when I saw this yesterday. I never knew that he was a Mormon or had done his mission in Brazil.
Don't know about OSC's blogging per se, but his web site is at http://www.hatrack.com/.
What a lovely takedown by the Last Honest Reporter. I certainly hope he didn't pay for it by getting his pink slip from the newspaper he works for. That's the usual reward for whistle blowers. I want to personally thank him for reminding me that generalizing about the Evil Other is a lazy person's game and I've been guilty of it lately. I apologize to all who read maggiesfarm and post on it [all except Fido who, I hope, will do his trolling elsewhere].
Somebody help me out here please.
I thought we already got the speech about,
"These are the times that try men souls"
How come we gotta go through it all over again?
I mean my dream of flying a Piper Cub is rapidly moving down the scale of priorities an I am lucky enought to have some jingle.
Where's the complaint winder?
he hoped to win the previously disenfranchised Bacterial Community.
Sorry, ACORN is already helping Obama with that.
OBAMA WILL BE TESTED
1. HOW MANY ACORN WORKERS DOES IT TAKE TO SIGN UP 5,000 DEAD PEOPLE PER HOUR?
2. WHEN IS A TERRORIST NOT A TERRORIST?
3. YOU WERE BORN IN
c. not gonna tell
4. IF YOU HAVE THREE BLUNTS AND DENNIS RODMAN COMES OVER, HOW MANY BLUNTS WILL YOU SMOKE?
5. YOU THINK WHITEY IS
b. guilt ridden
c. can't jump
Card's "blogging" site is called The Ornery American.
Here's the link: http://www.ornery.org/
Having observed Mr Card's blog and read his piece I must say I feel safer with the judgement of Thomas Jefferson and with the almost universal unanimity of the Founding Fathers that all governments eventually require a thrashing if men are to remain free, or in the case of the Civil War , gain freedom itself.
I will spare you the thousands of pages of their writings in support of revolution from time to time since I would assume that you have had benefit of what historians agree was probably the greatest gathering of intelligent and intellectual men ever to come together in one place in all of history.
Mr. Card didn't make the cut and his argument one of a psuedo impuissant intellectual. Having a blog these days is rather like having fleas in the 1700's.
BD, I think there is a big stakes poker game going on, and Joe Biden is showing us his cards. By first saying that Hillary would have been a better choice, and now by saying that Obama will be tested. Is he not tipping his had towards McCain and saying that Barak is an empty suit and a threat to the republic? The man has been around long enough and knows what's going on, if McCain pulls this off he should reward Joe with a cabinet position. Anyone else out there getting these vibes? Or is it just me, the lowly shepherd?
Habu, your advice is always sound and wise, but some of your recent post gives me pause to start to thinking that you are beginning to panic a little. Wait until after November 4th, always be prepared as you have suggested. But, lets not panic yet. Glad your back and thanks for your sage advice.
Lowly shepherd? heh. You mean "Playboy", right? :}
Nice original thinking there, Jappy. Very.
Here's some corn. *****
Meta, youz be way smarter than me, but there ain't noboddie makin money off my money. Thanks for the Hugh Hefner compliment. I am really dull and boring. You big Helen of Troy, Material Girl, Alice Cramden, wannabe. : ) ciao bella, stay safe!!
Just read the first page --it's only a half page and the font is big and double-spaced.
Just an experiment, with the doc's date in mind, to see how many giant boot kicks in the teeth you receive from the text.
I got three, maybe five (unsure as i was reeling toward the end and could no longer count).
"implementing H.R. 1852 would result in a net increase in offsetting
collections (a credit against discretionary spending) of $313 million in 2008 and $628 million
over the 2008-2012 period, "
Reeling? From what, the voodoo and juju and gris gris of those figures? god.
What i meant was the bill is an encomium to all other considerations except that dreary prole entity, the market. But i get your take on it too --bleahhhh! Meta, don't miss
h/t instap. Rage time.
that's good advice, jappy. plus we have to remember, it is marxists that are detestable, not other phenotypes per se.
i have to admit to those bouts of panic myself. They are few but they are somewhat persistent and chronic, lasting anywhere from 23 to 24 hours per day, about 30 days on average per month. The rest of the time i'm just drunk or hopped up.
"Generally speaking, [politicians] aren't too smart and not very wise -- just clever and calculating about their personal goals."
As Michael Crichton wrote awhile back, "I was also raised in a scientific tradition that regarded politics as inferior: If you weren’t bright enough to do science, you could go into politics."
Reminds me of the story about the man who told his friend he wanted desperately to know what his boy would become when he grew up.
Friend said, "Put an apple, a Bible and a dollar in the living room and tell the boy to meet you there. I will hide behind the curtain. Inside of a minute, we'll know what he will grow up to be."
Man asks "How will you know?"
Friend says, "If he takes the Bible, he will be a preacher; if he grabs the apple and starts munching it, he will be a farmer; if he takes the dollar, he will be a banker."
So, the friend hides behind the curtain and the father summons the boy, telling him to meet him in the living room, he will be there in a minute.
The friend behind the curtain observes the boy silently as he enters the room. Boy grabs the apple and takes a big bite out it, with his other hand he grabs the dollar and pockets it, then takes the Bible and tosses it on the table.
At that point the father entered the room, and the friend emerged from the curtain, said "I've some bad news... your boy is going to grow up to be a politician."
I've worked in politics long enough to know that, generally speaking, the candidates who make the best politicians tend to be arrogant, capable of dishonesty, calculating and largely friendless. The candidates who make the worst politicians are, generally speaking, nice guys, humble, generous, and have many friends.
Just my biased observations...
The article by the journalist was excellent. And, Mark Salter knows of what he speaks.
I'm stunned. I was expecting outrage. A presidential candidate spending government provided campaign money to purchase $150,000 worth of clothes? In 2 months?
You folks here were up in arms about Michelle Obama allegedly spending $450 on a dinner at a hotel (well that turned out to be wrong but like that's ever stopped a neocon), you must be apoplectic over the news that Sarah "Real American from Main Street Wasilla" Palin spent $150,000 of taxpayer money from the campaign on clothes in less than 2 months. Youbetcha.
I mean I read "It's the typical elitist attitude. If she was so concerned about the little people, she could have had a hamburger so the money could have been used elsewhere. But no, the people are there to serve the Obamas and not the other way around."
Wow, that's pretty damning "elitist attitude" about an alleged $450 dinner.
$150,000 is lets see ~333x more money. Hmm. I guess a 30 blouse from Wal Mart is fine for you, but not for her, huh?
My god, what ever would "Steve the unlicensed apprentice tax cheat" think of this?
Obviously spending more in 2 months on clothing that what 90% of the country makes in a year isn't "main street Wasilla"? Why, that's ELITIST!!!!!
Right? If this was Michelle Obama, or Hillary, you'd be all having aneurysms and screaming about how the democrats are so out of touch with average Americans.
Oh, never mind, I forget you are all just hypocrites.
Oh well, hopefully Rush and Sean and Hugh will have your talking points ready for you in the morning.
I won't even mention her carting the kids around the country on Alaska's dime and then changing the expense reports after the fact... We'll save that for another time.
Fido... you're very boring. You might be slightly less boring if you were to provide some links that substantiate your assertions. I guess, otherwise, we just have to take your word for all you say. No win there, pal.
luther, i don't know why he has to try to sneer --in a couple weeks he can just denounce us to the local gauleiter and have us sent to a concentration camp.
He may try that but he'll be burying many of his SS troops and they'll be trowing me in a mass grave. I know you recall these words.
Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard,
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come ." -
-- William Shakespeare
Fido - Trying to get you to answer a simple question is much like getting Obama to answer one. Here ya go...
You might have missed my question. I'll just repost it here:
By jackass, of course you mean the guy that wrote this...
But we gave blacks everything, they agitated, we migrated , but in the end we gave, gave , gave, soecial program after special program.
No? Oh. I see, you don't like it when someone points out the blatant racism of your hive mind here at Maggie's Farm for the Retarded?
Oh well, carry on with your racist hillbilly politics there Cletus.
#7.1 Fido McCokefiend on 2008-10-19 22:44 (Reply)
Can you delineate the racism in that statement for me, please?
If you could be exact, I would appreciate it. I seem to lack some understanding of the term 'racism'.
#7.1.1 Meta on 2008-10-19 22:51 (Reply)
#13.1.2 Meta on 2008-10-20 10:40 (Reply)
hah hah --you can't wait for OUR talking points ---hah hahaha --good one --
Jappy, hello to you too. I hope you are in good health.
No panic here. Must be in the keyboard or the motherboard.
If anything I have bee trying to make people aware of the stakes involved in this election. Hopefully you have read my many times posted prognostication re: stuffing the SCOTUS.
What has absolutely amazed me, truely amazed me is the almost total lack of response. It could be for many reasons, I know in one place I post I am not well liked and the asoociates that blog there seldom respond to anything I write. But it also happens in places where I would suspect someone to remark on the very distinct possibility. As mentioned it's usually silence I encounter.
Taking into account that other's have things they want to post and taking time to reflect on just how all emcompasssing my theory is regarding the reordering of our basic structure I simply move on in hopes that some reflection will surface. I can't recall any and I've been sounding the tocsin for months.
You may indeed be right. But with your consideration I will label it as cautious anxiety. IF I am right , and I believe I am I can not see the Democrats passing up a chance to pack the coutrs when they can't be stopped from doing so.
I have quit watching the little TV I do because it's Obama all the time. When I read the Thomas Sowells, Clarence Thomas', DVH, and others who have legitimate concerns they are lost in a media dump of 3 or 4 to 1 pro Obama, but with no substance. General Powells puling reasoning and eight minute soliloquy on the shortcomings of John McCain made me sick.
The courts are dragging there collective feet. HOWEVER, through all of this may lurk the Bradley effect and JN and Sarah may indeed win this. But I see nothing positive coming out of an election that elevates an erudite street punk surrounded by Marxists to the Presidency. Panic no, but am cleaning my weapons.
"What has absolutely amazed me, truely amazed me is the almost total lack of response."
I sympathize with your frustrations and offer the following response. I believe your sincerity without question. No one doubts for a minute that you are extremely smart and generally more tuned-in with what is going on full-circle. Maybe a change in your presentation would engender more response. Instead of a wall of text from a magazine article, give us your precis of it and hold back your expectations a bit. Most of us know the deal and come here because, like you, we've turned off the TV, quit a few of our favorite political blogs for a while and just need to chill. The few political threads here are great, but a constant drumbeat of it is making us all crazy, and your somewhat gloom & doom scenarios leave little room for serious debate because whether we agree or disagree with you, it's too defeating to think of having to buy up a gross of canned food and boxes of bullets.
It's not you, Habu. It's a matter of mental, soul wounds and disbelief that we are all dealing with, and sometimes we just need to change the channel or turn it off in a temporary reach for some sanity.