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Thursday, October 16. 2008Joe The Plumber: National HeroPic: Anticipating a McCain/Palin landslide after Joe The Plumber's impressive showing at last night's debate, the original French company that built the Statue of Liberty starts making plans for its replacement.
It really shouldn't be my job to shatter your life like this. We here at Maggie's Farm occupy most of our time tendin' the fields an' milkin' the cows an' sloppin' the hogs, but in those few brief moments of spare time we have, we use it to bring you, the Maggie's Valued Reader™, nothing but good, clean, wholesome Well, we might as well get this over with. Better you hear it from a friend than some heartless voice on a newscast. Here goes. You live in fear. Yes, you heard me right. From the fearful instant you fearfully wake up to the fearful moment you fearfully close your eyes after another fearfully long fear-filled day, according to Senators Barack Obama and John McCain, the one overriding emotion that governs your life... is fear. And you'd just never guess why. � Because of your large stock portfolio. As it turns out, Obama and McCain�were�right! If you actually had a large stock portfolio, you'd be shattered at the recent�drubbing you took.� Of course, you knew you were gambling to begin with � but pay that no mind.� Fearful, indeed, you would be, as you awoke each morning wondering if your little nest egg was going to be sliced into further ribbons�when you hear�the bailout was postponed because Wednesday is�the Senate's golf day.
That's right!� Anyone with a large stock portfolio must be in constant anguish these days.� We've already seen a few suicides, and I'm sure we'll see more.� They're calling it a "crisis", but I think "tragedy" would be more appropriate. Of course, if you're one of those lucky few who doesn't own a large stock portfolio (and I've heard tell you're out there), then your life is just the same old � So, right out of the gate, I disapprove of McCain taking a pandering pose, and, in the final analysis, lying to the American public ��in the�exact�same tone Obama is.� Two wrongs don't make a right, John.
I suppose their study groups�tell them they have to start the show off with boring economic stuff ��as the effects from the viewers' wine or coffee�kick in ��but it always strikes me as a mistake. Here's how I�heard the first question:
Viewers throughout the land click on their remotes to see what else is on. As these things go, I'd note you'll hear how many people watched the debate � which means how many people started watching the debate � but what you won't hear is how many people turned it off within the first five minutes.
Wouldn't it have been great if McCain had given the moderator a startled look when asked about "climate change", like he was surprised anyone would ask such a silly question,�and then launched into a whole dissertation on how we're currently going through a very natural and very documented upswing in the overall global temperature cycle, that 31,000 American scientists have signed a document stating that the whole 'man-made' thing is complete bullshit, and all you have to do is look at how much money is being exchanged to see why so many people�are so eager to keep pushing this outrageous hoax. But he didn't. � � Just ask perennial�mayor Marion Barry. Or Senators Ted Stevens�and William Jefferson, both of whom are expected to win next month.
� 80% is really amazing.� In theory, 50% automatically disapprove of you�simply because you're not�from their party, and then you have to figure a bucketful of malcontents from your own party, at which point anything between 30% and 40% starts to look pretty good. 80!
"Good friends, if that many Democrats approve of a Republican, well, that says a lot."� It strikes me�that's one of those things where the average slob would think, "Yeah, that makes some sense."� This is one real opportunity they let slip through their fingers. ��
I'd be happier if he had�mentioned it ten or twenty thousand more times, but�at least he got it out there once.� That "The�Dems will raise your taxes!" meme has probably won�the Republicans more elections than any other single point.� It's one of those 'givens' that�needs to be�kept alive. Sexism Watch: Like me, I know you're always on the lookout for the tiniest example of sexism so we can rid the streets of this scum once and for all. McCain just said Palin, a woman, "will sweep out old-boy cronyism." Guards, do your duty!
McCain on Biden: "He had this cockamamie idea about dividing Iraq up into three countries." Before you ever so�smugly agree, I presume you realize that 99% of every war, conflict and skirmish over the past century has been due to some imaginary boundary line that a bunch of old geezers in�some other nation thousands of miles away decided upon... right?� Ever heard the word "Checkoslovakia"?� "Yugoslavia"? "Israel"?
� A solid point was achieved by McCain when he called our attention to Obama's 'eloquence'.� In this case, how Obama would look at offshore drilling, which translates to "do nothing about" in politicspeak.� Calling attention to Obama's glib tongue is something�McCain should do more often. Rather than "Read my lips," it should be "Read his lips." � For those who actually made it an hour into this thing, McCain directly addressing Joe The Plumber was very effective.� He addressed him again�a few minutes later, then once again.� It definitely made a connection with the�other joes out there. If McCain j-u-u-ust slides in under the wire, I'm going to attribute it to this moment.� McCain didn't just address him once and then cast him aside, he addressed him on three separate occasions over a span of about five minutes, so you really got the feeling that ol' John was�actually talking to the dude. I can just see a number of Undecides thinking, Well, ya know, while they're both a couple of gasbag politicians, at least that McCain guy is talkin' to us.� That other guy never said nothin' to ol' Joe. If you see just the clip later, remember that much of its effectiveness was due to context.� They'd hardly glanced at the camera for an hour, then suddenly McCain is sitting there looking directly at us, saying something like, "Well, Joe, it's like this..."� It was a pretty cool moment, as these things go. Of course, what would really�be cool would be if Teams McCain and Palin both started using the Joe The Plumber theme in their speeches (Sarah screams from the mic, "Joe, I know you're out there!" and the crowd goes wild), and don't forget to add "I am Joe The Plumber" t-shirts to the list.
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Bias Watch:� I didn't see any bias in the questions and, indeed, the moderator was all but invisible.� Of the three debates, this one had far more interplay between the The only thing I spotted that could be called 'bias' was the camera angle on McCain.� It was, uh, accidentally in the one exact position that would show his jowls off, making him look pudgy and even�subliminally calling attention to his cancer.
Someone made the observation that McCain looks better sitting down than aimlessly wandering around the stage, and that's certainly true.� He doesn't strut very authoritatively, but seemed in excellent form at the table.� If anyone had any lingering doubts that his age and mental acuity was a factor, I'd say that was dispelled. Summation Again, all the Righties will claim McCain was the winner and the Lefties will claim it was Obama, so there won't be anything new there.� As an avowed Centrist (and someone diligently planning a Paris Hilton/Joe The Plumber�run�at the White House in 2012), I'd definitely hand this one to McCain.� They say that all Obama had to do was maintain his poise and he'd come out on top, but that's still only a zero � and doesn't account for plus points being accumulated on McCain's side.� Directly addressing Joe The Plumber (National Hero!)�was quite�effective, and, as I mentioned above about the air time they used up, McCain just sounded more presidential as he ticked off his 'To Do' list. Trackbacks
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Had I known Dr. Merc was going to provide such a thorough, accurate and entertaining post-game analysis, I would have watched the ballgame!
Now, anyone on the farm want to provide an equivalent treatise on the Phillies-Dodgers race game? Thanks, Doc! I hope Joe is really Josephine. That's a crack that is very easy on the eyes.
Marianne, there's a handsome Polish plummer. No plummer's crack on him. : ) Ciao bella On second thought maybe Joe is Joy, as in Dr Joy the plumber. What a talented gal.
That's how they spell plumber in Poland. ( above post) BTW - The best moment of the entire debate, all three debates, for McCain was when he referred to Obama as "Senator Government"!
I thought one of the best lines during the hour I could bear watching was " I am not President Bush, if you wanted to run against President Bush you should have run 4 years ago."
To me Obama sat there wondering why am I sitting next to this dotty old man when I supposed to be President now. When I'm President, ACORN will help make sure there won't be another one(fair election), Comrade. jappy, dear ... I agree that the plumber guy is handsome but sort of wussy. And I bet he doesn't know what to do with the tools he's holding. Ciao yourself, you cute thing ...
Marianne Grant - Good call, I should have mentioned that. The immediate question is, why hasn't that been rolling off McCain's lips for months?
Well, I got one thing right. Because Joe's appearance was an hour into the event, I was wondering if anyone was even going to mention him. Question answered! As you all have seen, ol' Joe's been highlighted everywhere this morning. If suddenly we read that the French company that made the Statue of Liberty is "making inquiries", we'll know I was onto somethin'! AND..... The Winner Is! : ACORN
Obama's past caught up with him, and he's sorry now. Hat trick of totally pucked. A fucking trifecta of kismet. A triad of serendipity. A triptych of what goes around comes around. A Triple Crown of complicity with creeps. Jesus Hussein Obama meets The Supremes. (Doc reads and re-reads Meta's fervent missive, furrows of puzzlement crossing his mighty brow, and then, suddenly, he gets it.)
Oh, you meant today! Yep, for all of today, Obama's hat trick of totally pucked trifectaed and kismetted tryptychs of triple crown simplicity is on public display for everyone to see. All day long, mind you. Too bad the election's not tonight. :) No, Doc. Obama's blithe dismissal of his association with ACORN is going to haunt him. The very organization he worked for and currently uses to help him is going to bring him down. The irony of that is too fine. Exquisitely fine. He blows off his association with them and now the whole nut is headed for the Supreme Court. 60 thousand messed-up ballots gets a candidate in trouble. Over 200 thousand, in one state, gets you an audience with The Supreme Court. Thirteen states, battleground states, are now on call.
This is now out of Obama's hands. ` Well, not to call you a totally pucked and trifectaed kismet tryptych of triple crown simplicity or anything, but you're forgetting one tiny, critical, elemental fact:
Somebody has to tell the good citizenry about Obama's ties to ACORN. As powerful and influential as Maggie's, Michelle's, Hot Air and Power Line (in that order) are, I don't think we can reach 300 million people. At least not over the next few weeks. So I'm not sure how the gang's going to find out. You do, however, make a good point. There, in the privacy of the voting booth, when they decide to vote for Palin because of her gender (regardless of the way they approach it), they're going to need a few mental excuses to assuage their guilt over skipping Obama, and Ayers and ACORN are perfect foils. They won't have to know the sordid details, just that "something fishy" was going on between him and Ayers, or him and ACORN, and that'll help ease the momentary guilt and help guide their hand to the Palin/(fill in blank) ticket. /you actually used the word 'triptych' in the blogosphere?? //impressed "Somebody has to tell the good citizenry about Obama's ties to ACORN."
Two points: It's consuming the news. People know, especially as Secretary of State Brunner of Ohio gets hauled before the Supreme Court for sitting on 200k illegal ballots. That is a national story that is setting fires in the thirteen other states engaged in voter fraud. The FBI is all over this. The fraudulant ballots are democratic voters. ACORN has endorsed Obama. The Obama camp has quietly counted on these ACORN-begotten votes. If those votes are rendered illegal, Obama's chances of winning plunge. As well, he is caught right in the crosshairs with a bead on his past and current associations with them. So much for his future. `
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Meta
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2008-10-16 12:34
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"It's consuming the news."
At this precise moment, there is no mention of it on Fox News' home page, CNN's, and the only mention on MSNBC is a puff piece trying to appear critical, but (it is MSNBC, after all) not doing any real damage. So, let's see how it plays out. Every time over the next week I see the word "ACORN" on a news home page, I'll skim through the piece and see how -- or if -- it's tying Obama to it. "...how -- or if -- it's tying Obama to it."
There is no 'if', Doc. No has to prove it. It's fact. Obama admitted working for ACORN during the debate last night. The FBI is now investigating the mess Obama created. He invested over 80K just for this election - to say nothing of his investment in operatives to 'help' his cause. This is not speculation. `
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Meta
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2008-10-16 13:58
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Meta - The "if" isn't whether he's guilty or not, the "if" is whether or not the MSM will make the tie-in. Or, more likely, they'll make the tie-in, then slough it off because there's no direct connection. Okay, so he dealt with them, that doesn't mean he's the one commanding the volunteers to illegally rustle up votes. Legally, it's just circumstantial evidence. Okay, Party X knew Party Y -- that doesn't make Party X guilty of Party Y's crime. "Guilt by association" might work in primaries, but I'm not sure it works in general elections. It just comes across as smear tactics at some point.
And, in a funny way, it's kind of counter-productive. What the McCain ACORN ads are really saying is, "We can't think of anything bad to say about the guy, himself -- but just look at some of the unsavory characters he's hung out with!" Ditto trying to tie him in with Ayers. Playing the guilt-by-association game at this stage of the election might appear to some to be the last act of a desperate man. Correction:
"He invested over 80K just for this election - to say nothing of his investment in operatives to 'help' his cause." That figure should be 832K. My bad.
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Meta
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2008-10-16 19:45
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Moral equivalency is the refuge of the intellectually spineless.
How can you make any connection between voting for Palin and a concerted effort on the part of thousands to subvert the election, and the very Constitution itself, on the behalf of an openly endorsed candidate and one who has direct and proven ties, fiduciary and organizational, to that group going back for decades? And whose actions have resulted in massive voter 'registration' fraud, and now actual voter fraud - a gang of Obama campaign workers were busted today in Ohio after having actually voted using absentee ballots and NOT being even remotely residents of the State - one guy lives in England. How many more of these blatant violations of the public trust will it take to convince even your biased partisanly myopic deluded self that there are high crimes and misdemeanors being perpetrated in all the battleground States and by people with sworn and open allgegiance to the Democratic party and the campaign of Barack Obama? And lest you think Joe Sixpack is too stupid to know or too dumb to care - I have another think for you. Those are the men and women who have actually had to sacrifice for this nation once or twice upon a time and are very much aware of what ACORN and the Left is doing. 'Something fishy going on'? The smell of dead fish surrounds you and your ignorant and uninformed condescension.
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George
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2008-10-16 13:23
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Wow. You got all of that from "Let's see how it plays out"? I'd suggest you were just dying to lash out at somebody with your heartfelt diatribe and simply picked the nearest target.
The question here is whether or not the MSM will link Obama to ACORN in their articles. The point is, it may be all over the news, but it won't make any difference if it's not tying it in with Obama. It'll just be another (yawn) voter fraud story. Another election, another bunch of voter fraud stories. What else is new? I'm guessing you're somewhat young. What you're viewing as a matter of life and death isn't even readworthy news to most people. As a matter of fact, I am old enough to know that making assumptions is the recreation of idle fools.
You assume voters will wait for the media's validation of this ACORN story before they are moved by it. I know better. I'm old enough to recall their validation of Dewey, fool.
#7.1.1.1.2.1.1
George
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2008-10-17 06:48
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What's this "large stock portfolio" stuff?
Are you saying that the millions of middle-class Americans counting on their 401K plans for retirement are Wall Street fat cats? What about those of us who can't pay the rent, are making less than we were last year at this time, and are worrying about losing our jobs if the economy gets so bad that companies can no longer afford to make payroll? I guess we'll just join y'all on the farm tendin' the fields an' milkin' the cows an' sloppin' the hogs an' bein' aggressively ignorant. Um...what? Where'd that come from?
I was responding to the snide assertion that only people with large stock portfolios are hurting as a result of the financial crisis. That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say. Everybody from college students who can't get loans to folks who've lost their retirement savings in the past few weeks are feeling this. You want the men who want to be elected president to ignore it all? It says above that this is a "politically centrist" website, not "politically libertarian." "You want the men who want to be elected president to ignore it all?"
Yes. What's wrong with the country needs to be fixed now, not three months from now. Asking the candidates what they thought caused the problem might be relevant, but asking them "What would you do about it?" is a waste of air time that could have been better spent on other subjects. Their opinions are important, but no more than any other senator's at this point in time. If you're waiting for this thing to be "fixed now," I think you're in for a dissapointment. It's not going to go away in the next three months. It took years to develop and it's going to slow the economy for years, and yes, I think it's very important that the next president prove that he's able to understand and handle it.
In fact, I think it's going to be such an overwhelming issue for the next administration that I'm wondering why they spent so much time discussing things other than the crisis.
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The Fly
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2008-10-16 12:29
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Fly -
"Are you saying that the millions of middle-class Americans counting on their 401K plans for retirement are Wall Street fat cats?" No. The point of discussion was the meme that both candidates are pushing. They act like everybody out there has the country's financial health on the foremost of their minds, whereas when the twenty or so of us here discuss politics, economics virtually never comes up, simply because most people are intelligent enough to realize they're really not qualified to opine on the matter. Those with something invested are certainly paying attention, but they're smart enough to realize that worrying about it won't help. Again, no one's dismissing the losses individuals have taken recently. The post was about the candidates and, in McCain's case, pandering to the "We need change!" meme, that's all. BD: By making it illegal for companies to close. Respectfully, I do think that people are concerned with the country's financial health. I think that if the past few weeks have shown anything, it's that we all ought to educate ourselves a little more about economics. We may never be experts, but this situation may not have gotten so bad were people paying a little more attention.
That said, I didn't mean to insult or attack this site. I actually stumbled across it because I like Gordon Lightfoot. Okay, I think we're on common ground here. Maybe it's just a matter of semantics. There is certainly something that needs to be 'fixed' immediately, but there's no question the repercussions will echo for years and it may never actually be 'fixed', in that sense of the word.
And, likewise, it's certainly important that the candidates understand the basics of what's going on, but I wouldn't want, or expect, them to drone on endlessly like a couple of economic majors. Nor, for that matter, would I want them to presume they're smarter than the true experts in the field. So "how much they should know" is kind of a tough call. "I think that if the past few weeks have shown anything, it's that we all ought to educate ourselves a little more about economics." Now that is the smartest thing anyone's said all day. I was thinking about it last night, and how so much of it is cultural conditioning. If a comedian was groping for some representation of a boring, dweeby guy, he might say, "After all, it could have been worse! I could have been an economics major!" (audience roars with laughter) In the cultural lexicon, economics = boring, and we just can't have that. "I actually stumbled across it because I like Gordon Lightfoot." Another fun post today. Sometimes I think artists write illusive lyrics just to be illusive, not really to say anything....however illusively. Obama has more splainin to do. And now “Joe the Plumber” is rumored to be a registered republican, an unlicensed plumber, and a relative of Charles Keating – with vetting of this latest poop underway. McCain seems like a good guy but like I’ve been tellin ya’ll, it’s always something with these people.
Commander:
"but like I’ve been tellin ya’ll, it’s always something with these people." Fixed that for you. You raise some interesting points about ol' Joe, though. My thoughts last night during the debate when he was first mentioned was that his buddies at the bar started whooping it up and razzing him like crazy and he was enjoying it no end. But after McCain addressed him directly -- on three different occasions, no less -- he probably had two very sobering thoughts: 1. Oh, shit -- the press are going to be on me like flies on dogshit! 2. Quick, what have I got to hide?? "No, no, folks, that was 'handyman', not 'plumber', heh. Sorry for any confusion!" Best election evah. /you actually used the word 'triptych' in the blogosphere??
//impressed #7.1.1.1 Dr. Mercury (Link) on 2008-10-16 11:50 (Reply) ~~~~~ I don't get the slashes, Doc, but you might want to spellcheck 'triptych'. Your dismissal of Obama's associations with ACORN, and I suppose Ayers and Wright, says something about you. You appear not to care about 'character' in your president. What DO you know about Obama? If you know anything negative, you did not glean it from the MSM. They'll not let a bad word out about Obama, and Obama has counted on that to keep his questionable past out of sight, out of mind. Fox news, cable, is on it, but even they can't fill in the blanks. The three rather serious associations we do know about Obama are quite telling - for the little he's been unable to sweep under the rug. I certainly do not care if you choose to dismiss it, but you've made some snide assertions here, insulted me by implying I'm 'simple', and I question your integrity and arrogance about dumping this onto a blog when, in fact, by your own 'yawn' admission, you couldn't even be bothered to watch the entire debate. Two new commenters on this thread and between you and BD, you smacked them down. Way to make a blog's integrity suffer. What is up with that? ` Meta -
If you don't mind a bit of criticism, you sure mis-read a lot of things. Maybe you're just reading a tad too fast? Witness the following: "Your dismissal of Obama's associations with ACORN" I never "dismissed" his associations with ACORN; I said that the MSM was 'dismissing' it, or, more correctly, downplaying the association. "and I suppose Ayers and Wright" ? "You appear not to care about 'character' in your president." ? "but you've made some snide assertions here" ? "insulted me by implying I'm 'simple'" Bwah-hah! I quoted back that whole silly string that YOU started a couple of times, and "simple" was one of the words... and you took it personally? "and I question your integrity and arrogance about dumping this onto a blog when, in fact, by your own 'yawn' admission, you couldn't even be bothered to watch the entire debate." I didn't? "Two new commenters on this thread and between you and BD, you smacked them down." BD actually misread 'The Fly's' original complaint somewhat, ergo his 'goverment' reply wasn't a 'smackdown', per se, but simply irrelevant. Even Fly was confused by his response. My response to Fly was quite the opposite of a 'smackdown', and you obviously didn't read his reply. The other guy was just a flip-out, someone just dying to rant and looking for a likely venue. And, like Fly (and you), misread what I said. Again, I'm talking about the MSM's treatment of Obama and ACORN and both of you projected that to be my own personal feelings. "Way to make a blog's integrity suffer. What is up with that?" Pardon me, but are you implying that no one should ever be smacked down? That, no matter how vile or crude a commenter is, we should welcome him with open arms? What's up with that? With all due respect, I like you, but you didn't get one single thing right in that whole dang message. I don't know who you're projecting into my place, but, as demonstrated above, it certainly isn't me. I think it was the "simple" misunderstanding that started the whole thing. You're probably in a serious frame of mind when reading comments and just not expecting any comedy to suddenly pop up. I'd like to say "It'll never happen again!", but it'd be a lie. :) "Well, not to call you a totally pucked and trifectaed kismet tryptych of triple crown simplicity or anything, ..."
Ach.. My bad, Doc. I saw that 'fun' comment as an insult. I think it might have been the cynosure of your phraseology there: "of triple crown simplicity.." that did it. Lordy, how in the world could I mistake that for an insult. You are never sarcastic or snide, and I should have simply KNOWN you'd never purposefully mock me. It's never happened before, has it? Again, my bad. I'd never recommend against a good smackdown. But you and BD represent the blog. There is a big difference in 'hosting' your guests and being one of them. Doc, you might study up on ACORN. I got very little wrong in our exchanges on this thread. Methinks thou projecteth too much. ` P.S. All of the above is funny funny funny. :} ` Dear Meta, the totally pucked and trifectaed kismet tryptych of triple crown simplicity:
Nothing personal, of course! Okay, I'll look into ACORN some more. Is it okay if I use MSNBC as my main source? I'm looking for the truth. I love the slant they put on this morning's article: "GOP Vitriol Rages Over ACORN" Yep, it's those ol' vitriolic raging (and no doubt clingingly bitter) Republicans again. What a bunch of pests! Don't they realize a little election fraud is the American Way? You know -- apple pie, World Series, election fraud -- they go together hand in hand! Just ask any Chicagoan! Doc,
You misspelled 'triptych' again. -5 What about those / // ? What do those mean in the context in which you used them? `
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Meta
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2008-10-17 20:25
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"You misspelled 'triptych' again. -5"
If it's "again", then it's -5,000,000. I have no idea what the word means, BTW, I was just impressed you used a word I'd never heard of. Hold on a sec... 1. A work consisting of three painted or carved panels that are hinged together. 2. A hinged writing tablet consisting of three leaves, used in ancient Rome. Oh, sure, I knew that! I'd just forgotten! As far as the slashes go, it's a Fark thing and it means an afterthought. They're used for great comedic effect in the comments. I'm surprised you don't have Fark.com on your daily stops. While 95% of the articles are just silly stuff, now and then a real item slips through, as these are being posted by regular people in (moderated) real-time, unlike the bloggers who have to rely on email tips, do research before writing the post, etc. And, on the subject, if you'll notice, most of the 'silly' stuff that shows up on Ace's, Hot Air, Boortz, my site, etc, was posted on Fark the day before. There are a bunch of "silly stuff" link sites out there (Reuter's Odd, ObscureStore, etc), but Fark is the king. Warning: site is severely Left-leaning, both posts and comments. There are little 'tags' that the reader can pick to go along with the post, like "FAIL", "asinine", "ironic", etc. When someone posts the latest Keith Olbermann screed, expect to see the "Hero" tag next to it. /asswipes Don’t mind me, I’m just a village cynic. I had just clicked over from the Moderate Voice, where they had that ‘Joe’ stuff – probably all over the web by now.
A slightly OT little secret – “It goes in here, and it comes out there”. If you don’t think we wee folks can influence the media via these websites, check this out. I’ve been quoted almost verbatim by John Kerry and Donald Rumsfeld. No shit. Two of my crackpot opinions about two different topics went into comments threads, and then I caught those guys repeating what I had typed out the same night as I had commented, on national news like it was all their own idea. These guys might have too much time on their hands, or , maybe they’re paying people to give them new ideas and those people cheat by reading these comment threads. CC,
You couldn't be more right. I work on a blog that is consistently, several times a day, checked by various news agencies. We have laughed out loud seeing exact words from my partner appear on FOX news. It has happened so many times I can't tell you. As well, the NYT's has the blog listed almost weekly in its Blog Round-Up. I have no doubt that every news organization has several people who are assigned to read blogs and blog comments to judge the zeitgeist and to pass it on. ha ha.... Original thought anyone? Good on you for being plagiarize-worthy. :} ` Both Hot Air and Ace have caught a number of DailyKos talking points being reiterated that evening by Keith Olbermann. And there's some talking head on CNN who was caught echoing DailyKos almost verbatim a while back. And Pelosi has been accused a number of times of reiterating MoveOn.org talking points.
And then there's this from yesterday. Look at the blow-up pic (the one you can actually read). Some of it's a bit of a stretch, but some of the quotes are dead-on matches. "Good on you for being plagiarize-worthy"
I believe leaders know how to get into “leadership” at least as often as they are actually qualified to be leaders. Both times my little ideas were used by these public figures to gain personal traction - for themselves. Gotta love the piucks of a good and a bad plumbers crack we have all seen the bad one to often just a shame we dont get to see the good onbe more often!
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