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Tuesday, November 9. 2010
Yesterday was a good day to pull some favorite field guns - bird and duck guns -�out of ye olde gunne closet for a little pre-season cleaning, check-up, and oiling. That .22? Haven't used it in years so I grabbed it too for a little maintenance. The old single-shot 12 ga. is for the little one to practice with. There was some new rust on the barrel of the beat-up Mossberg pump I use for sleet and mud and salt-water duck hunting, but a little surface rust doesn't bother me.
It's a good thing I checked things over, because I discovered that I have lost the choke tubes for my Beretta semi-auto and for my Browning o/u with the gold engraving that I use mostly for clays. The tubes are nowhere. I think I left them somewhere last year, probably on some hunting club's gun bench when I was changing chokes. This means a costly visit to Briley's website because these guns now all have skeet chokes in them, and I like a little more flexibility. For example, a light-modified choke for ducks (which shoots steel shot like modified - but I am giving up on steel, mostly, except maybe for large flocks of Snow Geese, which, as they say, "go down like a prom dress.").
Not that it really matters - I can't hardly hit anything anyway since I injured my shoulder a couple of years ago.
I store guns in these silicone-impregnated gun socks, always with the barrel down so any loose oil doesn't leak into the wood and weaken it.
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I am ready to purchase a couple of weapons while we still can.
I wanted your recommendation on specific makes and models. Why would be good too.
Here is what I am thinking about.
1) A 357 low-tech revolver that is the height of reliability since there is really anything that can break
2) A semi-automatic pistol
3) An over-under 12 gauge shot gun that can be used for (i) birding, (ii) deer (using slugs) and (iii) clay birds (i.e. fun)
4) A rifle with a scope for hunting
Your thoughts? Anyone else?
Re #3, you would probably prefer something like a Remington 11-87 (semi-auto) for deer, duck/goose, and turkey. Or Beretta semi. For upland birds, almost any o/u is fun. Buy used. They all shoot straight.
For the other items, I'll let others weigh in if they want. So many guns to shoot, so little time...
If you're looking at .357 revolvers, I can't recommend anything better than the Ruger GP-100. Bought one two years ago, in stainless steel with a 6" barrel, which cost about $450 brand new. It is damn near indestructible and shoots like a dream. I don't think you can get a better revolver for the money. I have 5 handguns, and this one is by far my favorite.
Those Rugers are smooth right out of the box, just like the old Colt Pythons used to be (for a lot less money). The action is slick.
A few questions about the scoped rifle:
What animals do you want to hunt?
Where do you want to hunt?
I just spent an hour or two getting some light surface rust off my 30 year old Beretta A301 12 gauge. It broke my heart to see it. I have a few guns and take care of them. I have no idea where this rust came from as I clean the gun after each hunt and wipe them down every month in off season. I coundn't believe my eyes when I saw that 3 inch long strip of brown funk.
Don't let a little rust bother you. Shotguns are just pipes with a trigger. Some of the best bird hunters have old rusty dinged up shotguns that they left out in the rain a few times.
I'm a big believer in Ballistol. I use it on all my guns, wiping them down after each time I take them out back to my range. I live in central Florida where rust can definitely be a problem, I went one summer w/o AC and had no rust problems. It's also good as a leather treatment and general lube for guns and fishing equipment.
Just looking at your picture I could smell the Hoppes 9! I recently talked M'Lady into letting me purchase another English side by side - just in time for pheasant season. Oh, how I love the autumn!
I live for bird hunting. I have 1 English setter, 1 Gordon. i take my holidays for the bird season. A little 000steel wool and oil removed most of the rust with little damage to the bluing. I bought that Beretta right out of high school and have shot ptarmigan,grouse,ducks, geese, snowshoe hares and even a moose and two caribou with slugs. Other than my wife,daughter,and dogs it is one of my most treasured possessions. I now have several good guns but that Beretta bought when I was 17 from Simpson Sears here in Canada without any ID reminds me of how straight forward life was. I saved for months for that shotgun.Soon Semi's will be banned here in Canada
Did you try simply rubbing the rust off with an oil-saturated rag or towel before resorting to the steel wool? You can get an awful lot off, my experience has been all, without having to resort to the fine grades of steel wool.
Picture a 14 year-old girl, about 80 pounds, with a 12-gauge. Now picture her just in front of an old oak, raising the shotgun to shoot at a target. Now picture her deciding she should stand firmly against that oak tree -- and imagine me yelling, "No!" just as she pulls the trigger.
Speaking of injured shoulders. That was my niece.
She never did that again.
Wow, rwp, that could have been ugly! Our thoughts (at my old skeet and trap club) about young shooters used to be that at 14, those young bones might still be too "tender" for even a 1-1/8 oz target load, hence, many young shooters were encouraged to shoot .410, 28 and 20 gauge, until the "growth plates" in the long bones had closed. Now, having said that, and knowing that women mature earlier than men, would a 14 y.o girl be less prone to a deformation injury than a 14 y.o. boy? Is there an orthopaedist in the house? :-)
And I'll bet, rwp, that as she slapped that trigger, that you were thinking that she should lean into that gun with her shoulder up, and her cheek firmly planted on that stock, eh?
Myself, I learned on 1 oz loads, and usually loaded into a large volume case (Old Blue Magic Remingtons) with a slow ball powder (Win 452AA, later WST-3 ) to keep the pressure down. There were also some pretty sweet 7/8 oz loads that had an almost identical pattern at 22 yards (skeet range). We were lucky to shoot with many knowledgeable men and women from development staff at Winchester, Remington and Beretta Alas, I quit registered skeet just as I was entering the AA ranks . . .
My first pheasant day in on Friday. I can hardly wait!
Barret, remember with any double barrel you're lugging that extra weight. Advise a good slide action (pump).
esp if it is to double-duty hunting & home-defense, you have more shots without a reload, even with the plug in --which it wouldn't likely be if it were in defense mode.
I like that straight stock Winchester 30-30. Talk about a light and classic design --and still a great brush gun for deer and pig.