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Friday, October 10. 2008Cahokia and related topics
Among many other wonderful details, the book undermines the notions that the Europeans arrived to find a primeval land on which the Indians left hardly a footprint. Quite the opposite is true. For example, the Northeast Indians had 100-acre cornfields, scattered wherever the soil was rich, and did massive burnings of their woodlands every year to rewind forest succession, for game management, and to clear the underbush. They viewed the woods as their gardens and farms, and when they made fields, they cleared them to the point of removing the stumps. No slash-and-burn: permanent farm fields that were hard-won with stone axes and fire. The Pilgrims took advantage of their abandoned fields in Massachusetts. Similarly, the Amazonian Indians turned the rain forest into their own orchards. At least 20% of the Amazonian forest is believed to be dominated by fruit- and nut-bearing trees planted by Indians for their use. That's not to mention their manioc plantations. And the South American Indians, like the Meso-Americans, developed massive irrigation systems to support their populations. There was little of the New World that had not been shaped by Indian activities, except for the mountains and deserts - and the Incas populated the Andes quite successfully. I also liked learning about the Indian prophet Deganawida, the Northeast "Peacemaker" born, it was said, of a virgin birth. Hiawatha, the great Indian orator and politician, was one of his followers. Some of those folks are some of my ancestors.
(For a variety of reasons, many mysterious, the New World experienced enormous population declines from their millions before Columbus, making Here's the Cahokia Website. Trackbacks
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I love this book. I listened to it in audio form (unabridged) and find myself returning to it often. It's makes me sad to think of all the social capital and knowledge that mankind lost in the great die out. (it also serves as a warning to us what fate can bring).
As for Cahokia. You can see the great Mound from I-55. I look for it every time my fiance and I drive to St. Louis (from Chicago) to visit her family. Yes, you can see it from the highway. I've been there. Angel Mounds is pretty impressive, too.
But if you want really impressive, go see Teotihuacan. I really want to go see Teotihuacan. I have seen Chitzen Itza in Cancun.
A couple years ago I went to an exibit at the Chicago Museum of Art of Mississippian artifacts. A couple of items, particularly some statues, made it pretty clear to me that Mississippian culture had direct links to Meso-American Inidan culture. Just to be sure I dragged my girlfriend to the Meso-American part of the museum to see some clay statues from south Mexico that were the spitting image of the ones we saw that had been dug up in Alabama. It was amazing. Yes - this is an excellent book that is required reading in my Colonial American History class. I never surprised to have several students who tell me after reading it that this wasn't what they learned in HS or with previous professors (usually professors teaching anything BUT history).
Good call, BD. It is a great book, no question, with many important new perspectives on the pre-Columbian Americas. A few things to consider, however. Mann is not an archeologist or anthropologist- he is a journalist (albeit a very knowledgeable one, to be sure). While Mann's ideas may turn out to be correct, many in the professional field do not agree with him, or feel his evidence is not convincing. He gives a lot of weight to statements made by "radical" Indians, who have an axe to grind, but not much science behind their beliefs. He seems especially fond of that phony "Indian" Ward Churchill, whom he cites repeatedly.
That being said, the professional field is full of people protecting their turf, with all the backbiting and shunning that goes with it. Many professionals in the field have invested their lives in a certain point of view, and if they abandon that view, they are, in effect, admitting their professional lives were devoted to error and were a waste of time. I'm glad Mr. Mann wrote the book. He cites plenty of contemporaneous accounts that indicate Indian society was much more complex and advanced than what I was taught in the history books. The conquerors certainly had a vested interest in portraying the land as substantially empty. I am all for the truth coming out, and letting the chips fall where they may. A couple more remarks-
One of my favorite things in the book is Mann's debunking of the idea of Indians living in harmony with the natural world. If Mann is correct, they altered the "natural world" considerably to suit their own needs. I love Yosemite National Park. The Indians who lived there prior to the coming of the white man regularly burned Yosemite valley to remove trees and brush, encouraging more of the animals and plants that they wanted there. Pictures of Yosemite Valley from the 1800s show considerably less forestation and many more meadows than what exists now. Now, there are so many more trees, growing taller every year, that much of the scenery of the valley is blocked out by the vegetation. I wish they would burn the whole dang valley to clear out the brush and clutter. The Indians had the right idea. The other thing is, and I can remember the name of the scientist who said this, the paradigm doesn't really change until the old scientists die off and are replaced by younger scientists who don't have a vested interest in the way things are now. "The conquerors certainly had a vested interest in portraying the land as substantially empty. "
How humbling that statement is. How maddening as well. Thanks for the tip, BD. I love this stuff and will get the book next trip to the library. ` Howard Zinn says that there were billions of Indians living happily in the New World and Columbus and his crew raped and killed them for fun and gold. He wouldn't be exagerating or lying, would he?
There were millions for sure. Happily? Doubt they had that concept. The big die-off? It's a mystery. The Mayans and the Cahokians disappeared long before Europeans appeared.
Did the Spanish kill them for their gold and silver? You bet they did. But Zinn should get it right: it was immigration - not invasion....right? I started using a research jobs site called InformationTechnologyCrossing that I do not think anyone knows about because it is run by a small company that does not advertise. All InformationTechnologyCrossing does is show you jobs from other job boards and employer websites-basically every IT job out there. In my opinion, this is something worth checking out. Some of the listings had already been filled that I applied to but I still think it is a valuable resource. I like the fact that not a lot of people in IT are not using this.
I ' m back from my holidays and i have some different views for these markets.
Many things happened during the last 3 weeks. I see that many of the issues that threatened markets are starting to go away. - oil prices reversed from 160 Usd to 110usd, giving some relief to consumers and producers worldwide; - us housing prices are expected to consolidate in a month or two; - eur/usd is getting closer to the purchase power parity.-Chinese economy is still strong and buying from several markets (including Japan!) . gold reversed to values below 800; What should one see in this picture? In my view, there are a lot of conclusions and investment decisions one can take looking to this scenario. 1. Invest USD in stocks related to American consumer: with lower gas prices and a historical low interest rate consumers will get more money to spend. The end of the housing prices free fall will be the trigger. Markets will only price this in the year end, but you should invest right now. Avoid stocks related to housing and financials as these will recovery slowly. 2. Run away from us exporters, but do not get short on it. World demand will still be strong. The same for energy stocks. I'm still expecting sustained oil prices in the next couple of years, now probably with a stronger us dollar and with nominal prices lower. 3. From the previous I’m still bullish in Canadian stocks and CAD, namely against euro and pound. Concentrate on sectors that will not suffer from the Dutch disease. 4. China and brazil will remain strong due to internal markets dynamics. Internal demand will boost imports and then helping to increase demand from external countries. 5. Euro zone and Japanese exporters will be among those who will benefit from the forex movements and an strong world demand. Investment in these companies in local currencies shall give you na extra return. If you are not na euro zone investor do not forget to cover your euro exposure. 6. I expect interest rates to increase in us, remain unchanged in euro zone and decrease in uk, due to different stages on the housing crises. I would be in position to get short on fotsie in pounds during the next 6 months because i expect retailers and financials to suffer even more. 7. I will repeat myself, but i'm really optimistic on the Japanese market. The increased demand coming from china may be exactly what this market needs to get in position. These are my views. I hope that yours are different from mine. I expect to hear your views from your right now. Please send me any comment you wish. What do you think of it? (http://professor1x2.blogspot.com) Laura Kauffmann "Seven Oceans Investments Club" |
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