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Wednesday, June 11. 2008
At the request of some of our commenters and our Webmeister, we are now requiring (as do all sites like ours) that an email address be included to post comments.
Of course, your email address is private and will not show in the comments - unless you wish it to be shown by listing it on the optional "Homepage" line.
Also, comments are frequently caught by our anti-spam system. Don't take it personally. It happens to me too. It usually just takes a re-phrasing, but I can usually never tell what it is objecting to.
Lastly - please feel welcome to offer comments. Don't be shy. We are quite friendly unless our hospitality is abused. We welcome disagreement and civil debate - in fact, we enjoy it. It only takes a minute to join in, and your comments add vitality to Maggie's. The more, the merrier.
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Good morning BD, is this a new cyber way of telling the truth? Your inability to respond to me , Luther, and above all Meta is very troubling and annoying. It goes right to your character as a man. Now you started this fire storm last Friday, and you still have'nt answered any questions, the ball/ responsibilty is still in your court. Is this a Maggies Farm style type of Watergate? I might be barking up the wrong tree and if I am you can tell me to SHUT THE HELL UP you stupid dago, and go away! But where I come from and when I was a kid growing up when we called somebody out to tell the truth or be accountable for his actions and he stonewalled us, we knew the type of kid we were dealing with and wouldn't have any thing to do with him after that. Now I don't know if this is just you or the higher-ups here on the farm but somebody better grow some balls and answer some questions.
We want the emails to be able to distinguish sincere commenters from sock puppets, as you all have requested that we do. Believe me, we did not want to bother with this.
How does one tell a sincere commenter from an insincere commenter?
The deal here is not that you distinquish who is a sock puppet and who is not. We have all been asking that you distinquish me from Habu. You started this. We are the ones who are tired of it. Kindly save the bother and just tell the blog whether or not I am Habu.
FYI: Meta, Leag and H-man are the same person, with sock-puppet names.
Buddy, Rufus, and Luther are still around, and very welcome.
#6 BD on 2008-06-06 18:21 (Reply)
Your words that started this charade.
My apologies to you if we made a mistake. We just aren't used to needing to ride herd on all of our fine and, often amusing, commenters. Nor do we have time to do so.
Our desire is to give commenters free rein - and the more the merrier. But we will not be crapped upon.
I will not be crapped on either. You have Habu's IP, and you can tell whether or not it is my IP.
Your nebulous, insincere "...if we made a mistake." does not resolve this issue. I am Habu or I am not Habu. Kindly circle one.
Yes, I have Habu's IP address and from that IP address, a number of messages have been posted under the Meta's name. This is not an AOL address, it is a Comcast address which is assigned to one computer unlike AOL address. The address is 71.203.133.***.
Here are a few examples of comments posted from Habu address with Meta's name:
Meta, was that you? If it is, you and Habu are the same person. If that isn't you. I am sorry about the mistake.
In the first one, that is not me. In the second one, it is me at the end. In the third one, Habu makes 2/3 of the comments and I make the rest. I could collate which are my comments and which are Habu's if you want.
Several times, and I have almost done this myself, Habu typed my name in the 'Name' spot by mistake. ... usually during one of our fights. Opie did it one time, as well. I knew it was just thinking of the person one is writing to that causes that error, and I never said anything. On the three you've quoted, I think Habu did it once, but the rest are him using my name - and I called him out.
My computer is still open to this page.
By the way - how do I find my IP or ISP address? I saw it once and can't recall how I got there.
Meta, if you want find out your IP address, visit http://whatismyipaddress.com/. When you check it out, please don't post it. Send it to me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I will let you know what I find. If you wish I will publish anything I find, but only with you permission.
Yikes. I didn't see this, Chris. If I did something foolish, could you guys delete the IP address. It's at the bottom of this thread and on the other thread where we talked about this.
No one is trying to crap on you or tell you how to run your blog BD. I like this place, and would like to continue commenting here. But either prove that the statement you made was true or explicitly retract it, with an appropriate apology. That will end the matter for me.
Will do, Luther. We aren't hiding anything.
It is a simple matter: our Webmaster reported to me that a comment came in from Habu's ISP under the name Meta. Also, Meata, and a series of other names as well. He concluded reasonably that Meta was a Habu sock puppet. If not, our (understandable error). Our Webmaster's challenge here is that Habu has switched to using untraceable AOL ISPs with further aliases. He won't leave us alone. He's become a cyberstalker, and giving Chris migraines.
A gentleman should know when he is not wanted.
Our fervent wish is that Habu and his aliases and puppets find some other place to play.
You, Luther, are welcome and wanted!
Say it ain't so.
Leag only posts as Leag, except for maybe three times when at a public terminal I failed to enter my handle and email and the message posted as anonymous.
I sent the orgami toilet paper for Missy Doc.
For the record, I have witnessed someone, probably the serpent queen, Habu, posting as Leag and Meta and others for a long while.
I have long wondered why MF didn't use the email signinature all along.
When someone posts a comment to one of my posts, I receive an email notifying me of same. At the top of the email is the commenter's name, date & time of the message -- and the commenter's IP address.
I just now went back through all of my emails and this time made some notes.
As to your pointed comment:
and above all Meta
We'd first have to ask ourselves just which "Meta" you're referring to.
Over the past few months, in just my threads alone, someone named "Meta" has used the IP address:
I think you see the problem.
One of them was also used for "Buck", "Leslie" and a few others. A different one was used by Habu quite a bit.
But BD's to blame for everything, right?
You're confusing the ISP's 'dynamic' address with the computer's IP address. That doesn't change, else things like site stats and polls that use unique IP addresses wouldn't work. All major ISPs use 'dynamic' addresses for their own port.
Regarding Habu using "Meta", there was a brief flurry of them about a month ago. Then Meta and Leslie sharing one. Then Meta and Buck sharing one. Then-
But, as you said, BD's to blame for any problems here.
Speaking of glad, thanks for the tip about "The Pursuit of Glory,1648-1815", a few months ago. Excellent.
You might try "What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America 1815-1848" by Daniel Walker Howe. Similar in style, structure, substance and attitude.
You have the best blog on the net BD....keep it up.
is there an email address i send to?
as opposed to commenting in these comment thingies?
You can use: email@example.com
The message should get to me eventually. We don't post a "contact" email because I was getting more than I could look at.
I will be sending you by email an important notification that I received today. Please keep an eye open you will be stunned!
Such indignation is usually not a hallmark of the truthful. This is comical.
As far as the stakes in play, i agree, Phil. But on the other hand, commenters come here with nothing at all -- no physical being, no ability to communicate in any way at all except by building tedious little arrangements of glyphs with which to attempt to recreate a specific idea in the mind of a distant glyph-reader.
But without eyes to shine or weep or wink, or face to smile or frown or hide-in-hands, or teeth to gnash & bite, or voice to sooth or terrify, or hands to pat or punch or supplicate, without any movement of any sort at all with which to transmit touch, taste, smell, sight or sound, we are very nearly detached from the space/time continuum which contains us.
There's but one wee little atmospheric abstraction to anchor this endeavor to a place in the continuum: the handle.
This is significant only in light of our accumulator/distributor ('cathexis/catharsis') aspect: one can only distribute what one has accumulated, and in this rarified medium, the handle alone stores any accumulation.
A trifling matter, but the storing does in fact require actual time, time which gives space motion (and motion space), which only together can sign this Universe -- and let any pore stoop claim place within the invisible abstract (which we Hope is a pathway to the Great Beyond).
Long/short, confuse a handle, devalue a store, devalue a store, steal the time it took -- the time which is a piece of a unique life expending itself in the use of it.
Please read all of the above, including those from our deeply annoyed Webmeister Chris.
Enuf said? We are done with this subject.
BD and Chris, thanks for trying to put all of this in order. Having to scour logs for IP's and matching up identities is more than a courtesy blog should have to do (but such are the hazards of the wild, wild internet).
Buddy is right on the target re: Handles.
For the curious:
Find your IP address.
Yay, Jephnol ! !
My IP address is: 69.243.211.***
Oh man. PLEASE make this be the END!!!!
Dear Dr. Merc,
I hope I was not the "Leslie" about whom you were referring because, if so, something is REALLY screwy. I always and only comment under my first name.
This sock puppet biz is truly distressing.
A question for Jephnol: if I change locations will my IP address change? For instance, generally I spend the school year in Nebraska. In the summers (as in right now), I'm at our home in northern Minnesota. Will that change of location be reflected in my IP address? Sorry, I am so tech illiterate that I couldn't follow the IP explanation. I do try to follow Dr. Merc's computer advice.....however, I decided it would be so much easier to hire him and have him fix my problems!
"if I change locations will my IP address change?"
Jephnol... have I inadvertently angered you? I do hope you saw my reply to you those many days ago when you thought that I was coming down on you. I wasn't.
Luther, I'd have to look back at comments to see what you're talking about, because I'm not carrying it around with me. We're operating at one hundred percent and completely squared away.
Okay... glad to hear it. I was wondering as you hadn't posted my comment over at your place. Though that could have been as it wasn't worth it. :)
Oh, I found what you were talking about. Darn you, Luther! Darn you to heck! Which reminds me, speaking of the Exorcist. Did anyone see the TV version where Beelzebub possesses the girl, she looks at the priest and says, "Your mother knits socks in hell!' Priceless.
All i know is you better pay the priest or you can get repossessed