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Sunday, June 1. 2008

Maggie's Montana Real Estate

As a contrast to our occasional New England houses, a reader thought we might like a peek at the 250-acre Rose Ranch, 50 minutes from Missoula. It's for sale, asking $995,000. Pretty nice views and nice wetlands on it, but 250 acres seems a bit small for Montana. I wonder whether they have Grizzlies.

 

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Grizzlies could feed on all the Swan and Geesies in this wetland.
#1 Leag on 2008-06-01 09:17 (Reply)
I expect better exposure from a Nikon cam.
#2 mika2k1 on 2008-06-01 09:21 (Reply)
What the heck are you talking about? The exif data is still embedded in that image, which is one of the reasons it's so big. It's a Sony DSC-W1, that is a Sony Cyber shot. Ya' know, ultra-compact.
#2.1 Jephnol (Link) on 2008-06-01 19:35 (Reply)
When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school
It's a wonder I can think at all
And though my lack of education hasn't hurt me none
I can read the writing on the wall

Kodachrome (D3 please w/ a 17-35mm, 1:2.8 Nikkor)
They give us those nice bright colors
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, oh yeah
I got a Nikon camera
I love to take a photograph
So mama don't take my Kodachrome away
#2.2 Jephnol (Link) on 2008-06-01 20:20 (Reply)
simon & garfunkle --yowsuh --good stuff --
#2.2.1 buddy larsen on 2008-06-02 01:30 (Reply)
Grizzlies in Montana? Thousands and thousands roaming freely, feeding on nuts and berries and tourists.

To avoid this possibly ugly ending Montanans give out one piece of advice; save the last bullet for yourself. But better yet visit Texas. The Dripping Springs area is beautiful.

I have trekked over probably 100-120 trails in Montana, ridden another sixty and encountered one griz..that was a big enough adrenaline rush to last for the entire day.

But did ya have to put in the part about 250 acres being small. I don't have nearly that but since I border on three sides by BLM land I have several thousand "free" acres.

Building to replace the yurt begins this month on Habu Cavu. Cavu (ceiling and visibility unlimited, flying term)


http://www.dreamhomesource.com/image-gallery.hwx/Q/Plan.DHSW04017/ImageId.94584
#3 Habu on 2008-06-01 09:22 (Reply)
hate to tell you but we all have a doody to be honest. there's a rumor of an outbreak of rumors in the Dripping Springs area. in fact a quarantine is rumored because of leprosy rumors. also, space aliens have been rumored. and rumors of mad cows. rumor is, it's pretty serious.
#3.1 buddy larsen on 2008-06-01 16:45 (Reply)
I was blessed with running into grizzlies 6 times in my mis-spent youth. Even drew down on a big boar once in the Beartooths. I have friends that have spent years staggering around the backcountry and have seen nary a griz or black bear.
#3.2 Tralfaz on 2008-06-02 13:28 (Reply)
"Cavu (ceiling and visibility unlimited, flying term)"

I remember traveling through Montana and remarking over and over again about the 'big sky'. At one moment, I felt diminutive, and the next moment I felt as if nothing could hold me back. Neat feeling that mother nature offers visceral reactions to her bounty.
#4 Meta on 2008-06-01 10:16 (Reply)
Meta,

Montana has a certain magic. When I stand on my mountainside property and look at the Big Belt Mountains sixty miles away it is a bit overwhelming. Lewis and Clark and the men of the Corps of Discovery felt the same.

It's not so magical at thirty below zero with a wind whipping around at 20 knots. But that's what fireplaces, your valenki's, and a warm toddy are for.
#4.1 Habu on 2008-06-01 11:00 (Reply)
We're off on another property scouting trip to the Palouse this coming week. There are several such trips on the schedule this year. More Montana, then the Texas Hill Country.

Though a view of the Snake River from the Idaho side plus a little fishin' boat sounds pretty good to me.
#5 Skookumchuk (Link) on 2008-06-01 13:06 (Reply)
Skook,

There's a really nice spot in NW Montana called Thompson Falls. Land is still relatively cheap, the scenery is gorgeous


Thompson Falls

I've been look'in at pick'in up another piece of property up there. My father in law (a lifelong resident of Montana) says that area has some of the temperate weather in the state. You wouldn't think it but he knows those things
#5.1 Habu on 2008-06-01 13:30 (Reply)
The Montana trip is basically Lake Pend Oreille to Flathead Lake, down to Missoula then back west, so we'll be passing through Thompson Falls. We'll check it out.
#5.1.1 Skookumchuk (Link) on 2008-06-01 13:45 (Reply)
Me thinks, Montana being so wet and full of birds and so big sky and the fourth largest state doesn't outweigh the many reasons that people must find to not live there.

If Beck moves there, that will be one more.
#6 Leag on 2008-06-01 13:31 (Reply)
people are staying away from Fort Knox in droves, too. doesn't mean gold ain't worth its weight in gold. just means there's no easy profit to be had lollygagging outside the walls.
#6.1 buddy larsen on 2008-06-01 16:34 (Reply)
No profit to be had in Montana would be another reason it's left mostly to the indigenes and government enterprises.

It's doubtful gold is worth it's weight in gold.

It will buy ya dollars but why trade gold for gold?

Such an endeavor would be like takin' to Montana and lollygaggin'.
#7 Leag on 2008-06-01 17:27 (Reply)
Frank Zappa wanted to move up there and raise dental floss -- don't know if he ever did it tho -- sure i could google it but i think i'll just wonder for a spell longer
#7.1 buddy larsen on 2008-06-02 01:40 (Reply)
I just spoke with th e FEMA people about the Dripping Springs Texas mystery.

Turns out the air and water are so fresh and clean that some Americans passing by mistook the fresh for freaky.

Here's a typical patch of the ugly part of Dripping Springs.

http://pictures.exploitz.com/Botanical-paradise-photo-Minsk-_smgpx10001x15385x104d1fdc5.jpg
#8 Habu on 2008-06-01 17:40 (Reply)
Montana is cold as an islamic hell. In the winter the winds come down from the north, and the Rockies. Shit, your spit will freeze in the air, no joking, I've seen it. You got two months livable conditions in the summer, max. And there's not a damn thing to do, other than walk around. Try it, if you think you got the stones. You don't, but you're welcome to try it.
#9 bob on 2008-06-01 21:33 (Reply)
And, out on the prairies, there's a condition known as the prairie crazies. Sometimes people just lose it, go nuts, from the isolation, cold, boredom turning to despair. They've driven themselves to the brink of broke, at the nearest shitty little casino, for something to do, finally, they just..lose it all.
#10 bob on 2008-06-01 21:54 (Reply)
Bob,

I got the sagebrush crazies once. A friend drove me through nothing but sagebrush flats for a couple of hours. I felt like crawling into the backseat and pulling a blanket over my head.
I felt I was on a desolate planet of nothing.
#11 Meta on 2008-06-01 22:09 (Reply)
Two hours? You wouldn't stand a chance, Met. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

On the other hand, once you made it past the fearful moment, you might turn into a pioneer, who knows for sure? Come into town once a year for salt. One thing for sure, if you didn't make it, you'd die.:)
#12 bob on 2008-06-01 22:23 (Reply)
Well I've spent from late April until late October , early Nov in Montana and it was fine. A good deal more than two months....wait, what am I saying, you're right people should avoid Montana at all costs. Injuns , arctic hellish winds freeze your noogies off, the people aren't real smart, there's no money..

yep there's a reason to season at my Florida home when winter comes a call'in.


Like I been say'n ..heaven is Dripping Springs Texas.


In Montana the best meals are


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people.
#13 Habu on 2008-06-01 23:08 (Reply)
In Montana the best meals are




people.


That's what I'm sayin'. It's tough out there.
#14 bob on 2008-06-02 00:25 (Reply)
Much of the eastern parts of Montana have actually been losing population recently. As have parts of the Dakotas. Whether that trend is continuing I don't know, but it came in part I think from the larger, less numerous farms, a bad thing, in my view. The western part is gaining.
#15 bob on 2008-06-02 00:29 (Reply)
As is the eastern part of North Dakota, centered on Fargo. It is the middle of the Dakotas and eastern Montana that is depopulating.
#16 Skookumchuk (Link) on 2008-06-02 00:53 (Reply)
Pend Oreille is beautiful. Sandpoint, Idaho is a nice town. Mild weather and lots to do there. Easy access to Spokane and the airport. Would not be too big a shock after Lala land Skook. (Lala land or Lotus Land is what some Inlanders call the coast. haha.) I think the Montana side of the pass is colder and windy.
#17 Patina on 2008-06-02 09:59 (Reply)
Pend Oreille is a strong contender for all the reasons you mentioned.
#17.1 Skookumchuk (Link) on 2008-06-02 10:41 (Reply)
As a native Montanan I would give most anything to return.

I've done the big city thing for 25+ yrs, lived in most regions of America, traveled around the world and nothing compares to Montana - that includes all three portions of the state when divided geographically - not just East v West.

I won't divulge where my retirement location is but I will recommend Butte for you outsiders.
#18 Tralfaz on 2008-06-02 13:16 (Reply)
I chased around inside that real-estate link for a bit -- man alive there's some beautiful river ranches for sale. It ain't rained in a month hereabouts and the caliche is gone talcum already. That's an August condition, come way early. hell if i was ten years younger i'd put me together a cattle company and git on up thar to that sweet grass up Montana ways. my luck, i'd probly run into that Blue Duck somewhere along the trail.
:-(
#19 buddy larsen on 2008-06-02 18:32 (Reply)
Buddy...Real Estalker has a ranch listing that has a private hot springs. Would take care of all the aches and pains from the cattle company.

SELLER: Carole King
LOCATION: Stanley, Idaho
PRICE: $19,000,000
SIZE: 128 acres

Spam preventer won't allow the url but google Carole King, Idaho ranch, for sale and the link is there. Quite a place.
#20 Patina on 2008-06-03 10:26 (Reply)
Thanks P -- i gwan check it out. Nineteen million bucks, not sure if i have that much at the ready. Pretty sure i have $19.00 of it tho. I'll probly be needing partners.
#20.1 buddy larsen on 2008-06-03 15:15 (Reply)
only $149K/acre, (whew) --$150K is too durn high!
#20.2 buddy larsen on 2008-06-03 15:19 (Reply)
the Real Estalker: Carole King Is a Natural Woman in Idaho SELLER: Carole King LOCATION: Stanley, Idaho PRICE: $19000000 SIZE: 128 acres DESCRIPTION: ...This ranch features absolute solitude, spectacular mountain ...
realestalker.blogspot.com/2007/11/carole-king-is-natural-woman-in-idaho.html - 98k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

"I Feel the (expensive)Earth... Move(up in price)... Under My (hi-dollar)Feet, I feel the sky...."
#21 buddy larsen on 2008-06-03 15:25 (Reply)

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