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Wednesday, March 5. 2008

There's a big world out there. Maggie's Farm hangs out in a comfy little corner of the "blogosphere." Of course, hard-core porn is the biggest biz by far on these internets, but we are accustomed to thinking of an Instalanche or�a Powerline link as BIG. And a FARK link as very big. But Digg, whose link is below each of our posts (please click our�Digg link�if something might be of general interest), has true global power.�Digg has exposed us to more than�a month's worth of potential readers in 24 hrs.�We hope some of 'em will stick around.

And, since I am on the subject of�ye olde blogge, please, readers - don't be shy. Post a reaction or an opinion.�We know that you are all busy, but we like to hear reactions, and you do not need to sign in or any of that annoying nonsense because we have a potent spam-stopper which sometimes stops even us.

You be the pundit. What do you think about those primaries? Leave thoughts in comments.

Bring on the Bronze Age. Tim Blair

The nerve center of these internets. A big�tangle of wires.

Osama's Country Camps

Who says Islam can't be changed? Blackfive

Gary Gygax died.

Perpetual adolescence at�Rolling Stone

NY Times fooled again. Volokh. Because they want to believe.

Is shyness an illness?

Want to see Liberal Fascism? Read this and follow the links.

More problems at Citigroup. Is it a buy at $15-16?

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New folks to Maggies Farm. I am just a contributor but I must tell you this place is tops .

As mentioned, please comment. I know sometimes it appears there's a club already established at many sites and that you might be intruding ..pooh pooh ...yeah we have our regulars but I've never seen a new persons idea or thought "ganged up on" by a bunch of Maggies Farm lovers .... we love to joke and kid around but there's our thoughtful side too.

Try this place, write your thoughts. Double your thoughts back if you're not satisfied.

BTW, we discuss all manner of things so it's not your normal one note site, stuck on a theme forever place. O/T is well tolerated.

just a contributor...welcome to you all
Habu

#1 Habu on 2008-03-05 07:15 (Reply)

Habu you full a shark shit.

#1.1 Sha'Nay'Nay on 2008-03-05 10:23 (Reply)

Is that a good thing?

Was that a doo wop group around 1957?

#1.1.1 Habu on 2008-03-05 11:35 (Reply)

Lawww, ain't no good thaing. Make you a mean mullygrubbing sumbitch. Strayten up an dont bite nuthin'.

#1.1.1.1 Sha'Nay'Nay on 2008-03-05 13:32 (Reply)

Subsunk at Black Five has made a nice point when he dilates on what a Marine with an M-16 in one hand and a candy bar in the other can do to aid in changing a culture. It appears in a very nascent stage in Iraq to be moving along nicely. I would caution this.

Cultures are centuries in the making. Mimicry is initially transitory. It is a survival technique. The word mimicry dates back to 1637. It is derived from the Greek term mimetikos, "imitative," in turn from mimetos, the verbal adjective of mimeisthai, "to imitate." Originally used to describe people, it was only applied to other forms of life after 1851. It is a survival technique of nature and man, i.e., the Stockholm Syndrome.

Our military and civilian leaders, as well as history, tell us that vigilance is necessary to maintain freedom. Let us hope the Iraqi population isn't simply in a passive mimicry toward American power but has truly embraced the concepts of the Rights of Man. If so they will continue to need our help, similar to South Korea. Lets give them a chance at fully adapting and changing for the better their Rights of Man, and Woman. That candy bar can change the world if used properly.

#2 Habu on 2008-03-05 07:41 (Reply)

This primary season and upcoming election are shaping up to be one for the ages.

She's up, shes down, McCain's on the mat, now he's Big Daddy.
Free Rid'n Obama is now a low rider, beginning to take hits from all sectors and guess what...he's beginning to do the palms up shoulder shrug and the Alfred E. Neuman impersonation. We're only days away from Michelle going postal. I've said all along he's an empty suit with an unctuous manner. NO solutions just a constant din of , Yes we CAN..or Campaign About Nothing.

Strap in , it's an E ticket ride on the Mad hatters Tea Cup.

#3 Habu on 2008-03-05 07:52 (Reply)

Is shyness an illness?

Yes, I can testify, I'm afflicted ! ! ! ..do I have a witness?

#4 Habu on 2008-03-05 07:54 (Reply)

I confess to being utterly dismayed at the prospect of any of these three -- McCain, Clinton or Obama -- being the next president.

McCain would likely do the least damage, and national security is his one real positive. Yes, he's pro-life, but that doesn't mean much in terms of policy influence. On everything else -- big government, taxes, environment, illegal immigration -- he's liberal.

God help us if Hilary or Barack get into the White House.

Is this really the best we can do?

#5 D on 2008-03-05 08:36 (Reply)

I dont know what to think about the Dem primary. Will they leave eachother bloodied and damaged, or will they come out stronger?

Anyway, it makes for good soap opera.

#6 BD on 2008-03-05 08:38 (Reply)

BD, I think It's a good thing .let them carve and slice each other up. Maybe we can have a wrestling tag team match at the convention, I would pay to see that. After their done with each other I hope they start to eat their young.

#6.1 jappy on 2008-03-05 08:56 (Reply)

As far as the primaries go, I saw Huckabee give a solid, classy withdrawal speech last night on foxnews.com. Nice thing is you could watch all of it not just 15 seconds. Otherwise I wait in glee for the Dems to beat each other senseless, it means more time for the Republicans to get their act together and delay the media bashing coming down the road.

#7 grant1863 on 2008-03-05 08:38 (Reply)

Yeah, like how he called out Romney for the negative ads. No bashing there, vindictive f*ck. FFS it's been WEEKS, get over it Huckababy.

#7.1 Phil on 2008-03-05 16:39 (Reply)

I relize that Clintons are better on policy than Obama. But I hate them. What should I do, Ann ?

#8 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 09:09 (Reply)

"but I've never seen a new persons idea or thought 'ganged up on' by a bunch of Maggies Farm lovers ...." - Habu

Bwah-hah!

Liar.

From my post on Clinton Derangement Syndrome:
_____________________________________

At that point, the other commenters had the choice to either refute my stance, or answer the question directly and give their reasons why one of the other Dem candidates would be the better choice. You know � one of those serious, intelligent discussions that the right wing claims the left wing is incapable of.

And what was the first response from one of the regulars?

When you eat do you use a knife, fork, and spoon or just go face first into the trough?

The rest of the responses were along similar lines. One guy 'forgot what he was going to say', he was so shaken that someone had actually used the words "prefer" and "Clinton" in the same sentence.

And that's when I saw it.
_____________________________________

http://www.dr-mercury.com/tb/tbshadow.htm

Gosh, Habu, did you forget your own quote? And, admittedly, it was a honey. I always meant to ask you if you wanted accreditation for it. But "never ganged up on"?

Remember, Habu: Cut & Paste is forever. :)

#9 Dr. Mercury (Link) on 2008-03-05 09:22 (Reply)

Our goal is friendly civility regardless of opinions. We are not responsible for any lack of civility of our commenters, but we hope to civilize them all, in time.

#9.1 BD on 2008-03-05 09:26 (Reply)

"but we hope to civilize them all, in time"

That can't be good.

#9.1.1 Jephnol on 2008-03-05 11:06 (Reply)

''...that the right wing claims the left wing is incapable of.''

Should be ''...of which the right wing claims the left is incapable.''

Remember, first der sentence construction, then der vorld.

#9.2 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 09:33 (Reply)

Dr. M

I don't own a dog.

I've never been there.

I was misquoted.

My system was hacked.

I forgot to take my lithium.

Take your pick. I'm work'n here to get mo folk into da conversation. What the world needs now is love , sweet love.

And then there's what BD said in 9.1

Plus Aunt Sally was try'n to civilize me so I done struck out for the new territory

Gosh, Habu, did you forget your own quote?
Hell yes, sometimes I forget where I put my car keys too.

#9.3 Habu on 2008-03-05 09:51 (Reply)

first place to look: somewhere in walking distance of the car.

#9.3.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 09:57 (Reply)

Dr M

I went back to the site you provided. Of course it was yours.

There was no context to the quote you gave, no attribution to Habu for the above referenced quote, and in general it was a very sloppy piece of work in attempting to make your point.

Now, why don't you laser like give us the context, the entire thread, so that others can judge whether your "candor" at a "gotcha" moment is warranted the value you place on it. Otherwise it's just poorly done. Also, when does one opinion , whoever attributed to, constitute a "ganging up" on the contra party?

And like I said, I don't own a dog.

#9.4 Habu on 2008-03-05 10:04 (Reply)

" When you eat do you use a knife, fork, and spoon or just go face first into the trough ?

dang, that be as pretty as DaisyPossum in season.

fella can write sum I reckon.

#10 Possumtater on 2008-03-05 10:08 (Reply)

Side note to Buddy: Very interesting correction! You're right that the "of which" sets up the sentence better than my common "that". My only defense is that I was educated in government schools.

Side note to Habu: All is forgiven. :)

For those of you Digg readers who are (1) trying to figure out what an "eclectic" site is all about, and (2) wondering where all of the Hillary and Obama articles are, allow me to present Exhibit A:

Today, I have a better grasp of American politics and the various ideologies in play, and in a better historical context, than I did three days ago.

Because of Maggie's Farm.

About a week ago, one of the gang here posted a quote from Theodore Roosevelt. I commented at the time that I was always a big fan of Jefferson when it comes to quotable quotes, but that Teddy had some pretty good ones, too.

But then I realized that I really didn't know much about TR, so I promptly rented and watched three documentaries on him. Two things really stood out:

1. You know the famous 'charge up San Juan Hill'? Well, the first documentary is rolling along, and TR is 20...then 25...then 30...then 35...and I'm thinking, "Did they forget it? Or was that somebody else?"

That old fart led the charge up San Juan Hill when he was 39!

Think back through every war story you've ever read and every war movie you've ever seen, and tell me if you can remember the boys being led in their valiant charge by some middle-aged dude.

Wearing spectacles.

And what was really cool was, rather than telling the boys to "CHARGE!!!", he said the words every soldier wants to hear:

"Follow me!"

2. Imagine a Republican being in favor of Big Labor. But Teddy was, big-time, and what's fascinating is that, at the time, Big Labor was really what the country needed. It's interesting that, when it was necessary, the Republicans supported it, but now that unions are doing their best to bankrupt small towns and cities throughout the country, it's the Dems who support it.

The questions are:

What was the result from visiting Michelle Malkin's site that day?

Nothing.

What was the result from visiting Maggie's Farm that day?

An entire new perspective on American politics and the inspiration this great man still provides to us today.

That's why, Digg readers.

#11 Dr. Mercury (Link) on 2008-03-05 10:08 (Reply)

Aw, shucks, Dr. M.

#11.1 BD on 2008-03-05 10:52 (Reply)

The primaries.... it is my hope that as the blood spills, some former dems wise up and change their minds. It will be an ugly bloodletting that might open some eyes. I've been told I'm wrong.

I watched Fox & Friends this morning and Alison Camarota, Frank Luntz, and Tom Delay were at a large gathering of students at Ohio State. They had a group of students set aside and Alison spent a lot of time asking them questions. I would say the group split 50/50 republican/democrat. The kids were great! The were informed and intensely interested. I don't know, but I thought Fox decided to let it run much longer than planned because of the outstanding example these college kids gave of themselves. It made me feel good considering how often college kids are taken for idiots.

#12 Meta on 2008-03-05 10:33 (Reply)

Read up on Digg:

http://slate.com/id/2184487

http://tinyurl.com/yrua7c

It's interesting stuff. Look out for the hive mind. It's going to get you.

#13 Jephnol on 2008-03-05 11:02 (Reply)

Thanks for the links to the info on DIGG etc. Very enlightening.

I have observed in my life that few people are willing to develop something, such as Wiki or DIGG and then simply turn it over to hoi polloi for their input. When that happens it usually takes on the correspondent milieu of walls in public restroom stalls. Consequently it came as small surprise that so few were the actual gatekeepers and influence peddlers of those sites.
Having said that Adam Smith was so , so correct in his invisible hand theory, even with regard to the gatekeepers of those sites:
"Every individual...generally, indeed, neither intends to promote the public interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it. By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry he intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention ."

There intention was not to provide unbridled knowledge but control the flow of information.
So now we are on notice that a tiny percent control the flow, but unless the product is substantially false then they are promoting an end which was no part of their intention, for we now can use that knowledge heretofore cloaked in stuffy libraries. If that knowledge is purposefully debased the restroom scribe sans-culottes would unmask it most ricky tic and establish a Committee of Public Safety, and that, being what it is would be a fatal ending.

#13.1 Habu on 2008-03-05 12:45 (Reply)

Dr M,

You are gracious in your forgiveness but the Lord beat you to it.

However, I shall gladly accept from your mortal coil, your forbearance of my shortcomings which are great, and require the civilizing effects of Maggies Farm and contributors such as yourself to challenge and overcome.
Best
H

#14 Habu on 2008-03-05 11:47 (Reply)

remember, you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

#14.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 12:14 (Reply)

I always heard you could prick your finger, but you... Oh. Never mind.

#14.1.1 Jephnol on 2008-03-05 12:44 (Reply)

har har -- lewd, but har har --

#14.1.1.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 12:51 (Reply)

for good laff out loud, click thru to 'the cartoon' at bottom:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWU4YWZlM2Y1MzI0ZDdhNmZjYTNiNjFkNjRjNWRmNDQ=

#14.1.1.2 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 12:56 (Reply)

Theodore Dalrymple

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/16790/sec_id/16790

#15 mal on 2008-03-05 12:01 (Reply)

http://www.meforum.org/article/1867

The Psychological Asymmetry of Islamist Warfare

#16 mal on 2008-03-05 12:54 (Reply)

Been lurking months and love it, except, get your webmaster to fix it so when I link back to maggies I land where I began.

On politics; liberals, socialists, statists on our left side, on our right too. Get back to basics like our constitution and bill of rights. Write in ron paul when you vote, maybe your last chance to save the country.
thankx,
Bill

#17 bill keith (Link) on 2008-03-05 12:58 (Reply)

Bill Keith,

I believe a good many of us here would love to get back to the Constitution but I truly do not think that is possible through our democratic republic any longer.

Just as Jephnol above links pointed out the small cadre of individuals that truly control Wiki and DIGG and heaven knows how many other similar sites so it is with our government.

The one thing that can be said is that from the very inception of this nation it has always been thus. The FF's fought over the small stuff for power's sake. Interest groups ( thinking of the Abolitionists here) pushed a position that lead to civil war. Our money is not controlled by the government but by a private organization, the Federal Reserve. Our people are comfortable with being taken care of by a nanny state.

What a mess.

#17.1 Habu on 2008-03-05 13:34 (Reply)

Brattleboro Vermont: Arrest Bush -Cheney on sight
Rick Moran
This may be the silliest, the stupidest measure ever passed by any town in American history.

Worse than arresting someone for throwing chewing gum on the sidewalk. Worse than arresting someone for shaving on Sunday.

The towns of Brattleboro and Marlboro Vermont have passed a measure that would force their constables to arrest the President and/or Vice President of the United States if they ever set foot in their towns:

More symbolic than substantive, the items sought to have police arrest Bush and Cheney if they ever visit Brattleboro or nearby Marlboro or to extradite them for prosecution elsewhere � if they're not impeached first.

In Brattleboro, the vote was 2,012 for and 1,795 against. In Marlboro, it was 43 to 25, with three abstentions. "

I hope the one thing that people take from this is 'Hey, it can be done,"' said Kurt Daims, 54, who organized the petition drive that led to the Brattleboro vote.
Hey! What can be done is watching idiots like Daims making a fool of himself and his friends and neighbors as well.

One would hope that President Bush would challenge the law and pay a visit to Brattleboro. It would be interesting to see a showdown between the Brattleboro police and the Secret Service. Somehow, I would think the president's protectors would take a dim view of him being arrested and thrown in jail.
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#18 Habu on 2008-03-05 13:22 (Reply)

Re: The Bronze Age...

Forbes has an article on vehicles that depreciate quickly. Just for fun I like to price vehicles by the pound. Am thinking maybe a used Lincoln Town Car is a very good deal.) Money saved would buy plenty of gas, even $4 gallon gas. Lots of used Lincolns on Ebay. Would post the Forbes and Ebay links but spam filters are kicking in.

From Forbes..
Vehicles Feature
Ten Cars That Lose Value Fast
by Jacqueline Mitchell

#19 Patina on 2008-03-05 14:15 (Reply)

Sweetie up and took a contract job out of state and hauled off the office computer so now, I have to share mine w/ our four sons. 'Maggies' was on the list of must-read blogs but had to come down on account of a picture that was just taboo enough that my boys couln't read the story linked beside it. Now I am no prude and I know that I could just as easily have clicked on the link and let the boys read from there, but (and there's always a 'but' ) it didn't seem worth it. There is too much good content on Maggies - and the boys want to read a lot of it - for me to have to chaperone them while they peruse it.
I guess, if you need that sort of thing to get your heart started in the morning, it's all good. However, my 12 yr old's heart is just fine. We are a military family - our 17 yr old raises his hand this-coming Sat and leaves for Parris Island in Sept. He's older brother was 3rd ID in Baghdad - 2nd tank from the left, I believe. My 13 yr old is a blues and jazz hound. The 15 yr old finds all grades of stuff and discussions reach a pitch during rides to and from school.
The link to Shorpy became a daily visit to Shorpy. The USS New York christening was a big hit w/ our crowd. One son cannot fathom the adoration for Dylan, thinks he mumbles and growls too much - but he listens to the songs, hoping to find one that might prove him wrong. Your link to 'Cletus, Take the Wheel' would have been right up his alley; however, he would have to get past Bird Dog's 'Babe-in-a-string.' (See Friday, January 11.)
It's perfectly fine if my Sweetie, out of state, wants to start ogle one of BD's babes. It is not, however, what my sons need. So, for the time being, Maggies is not on the blog list here and that's too bad; the 15 yr old is in his 3rd year of college and the 13 yr old is right behind him. They're sharp. Maybe their comments might liven up the place a bit. And from the looks of your comment space, you could also use a middle-aged housewife's thoughts, too.
Oh well.

#20 middleagedhousewife on 2008-03-05 14:25 (Reply)

Sorry about that. We do get a bit random sometimes.

#20.1 BD on 2008-03-05 14:29 (Reply)

MAHW... Speaking only for myself of course, but your thoughts would be most welcome here. The more perspectives the better.

#20.2 Luther McLeod (Link) on 2008-03-05 14:34 (Reply)

I agree. Who wants to see skimpily-dressed beautiful women?

#20.3 Mister LaFlame on 2008-03-05 14:34 (Reply)

MAHW,

You have no idea how welcome your opinions would be. Your sons too.

I'll tell ya the truth there are days when I get my fill of that Habu character right quick. I mean it's like reading a machine gun. Habu 07:42, Habu 07:49, Habu 08:07, Habu 08:37, Habu 09:48 and somedays it's midnight and the guy is still posting
"German Strudel Looks Like Geo Bush" stuff, or "Obama seen in wrinkled shirt"

So you see it would be the humanitarian thing to do...join in and be a contributor. If a naked fanny shows up just tell your son Santa won't be placing it under the tree cause it's not real, it's a hacker mess'n with Maggies Farm....
Best
Habu

#20.4 Habu on 2008-03-05 16:04 (Reply)

say you dan't have a link to that strudel story do you? i like strudels. and the president too. tho in different ways of course, the former for a snack and the latter as the head of the executive branch of the government in DC.

#20.4.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 16:38 (Reply)

Re: death of Gary Gygax

http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp03042008.shtml

#21 Carl H. (Link) on 2008-03-05 14:29 (Reply)

http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=03062008

#21.1 Carl H. (Link) on 2008-03-06 03:45 (Reply)

Some readers out of the shadows. Excellent.

#22 BD on 2008-03-05 14:34 (Reply)

Ok,

Sharon
Betty
Darlene
Shniqua
Fred
Rollie

We haven't heard a peep from you folks yet and as you know from lurk'n the later it gets the more of Habu you get. So limber up those keyboards and let 'em roar !!

apologies to Steppenwolf:

Get your body ty-pin
Using all the key strokes
Look'n for a sentence,
Or whatever comes your way
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take a topic in a manic way
Use an exclamation point
And explode into space ! !

Born to be wild
Born to be wild

I like typ'in garden stuff
I can do it all at Maggies
Writ'n like the weeds grow
And the feelin' that I matter
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all your tales and yarns too
And expose them at Maggies Farm

Like a true nature's child
We were born, born to be wild
We can write about Dan Quayle
I never wanna fail (ok, that's lame, so shoot me)

Born to be wild
Born to be wild........

So bring it folks !!!! (or I'll do another one)

#23 Habu on 2008-03-05 16:28 (Reply)

Don't forget the lesser hit "Born To Be Mild" by Steppenmouse.

#23.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 16:47 (Reply)

I just overheard Habu say'n that the $10,000 in pre 1965 silver coins he done bought two months ago is now worth twice that..darn dats gud...mean I be eat'n leftover Vienna sausage fo a week !!

#24 Possumtater on 2008-03-05 16:34 (Reply)

did he take delivery -- or buy a depository recpt -- i ask for technical reasons -- i weant some of them "Walking Liberty" halves. The most beautyful coin ever made. of course you wouldn't "get it" being as you are a marsi, uh, mersup, marssipi, marsopal, okay one of them upside down Ozzie-like critters.

#24.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 16:45 (Reply)

Miztah Habu he take de-liry ALWAYS..he gotz a vault, a bigg'un and he whant hizz'in coin inside. bot gold too but he say he only make about $6,000 in da last few months.

i don't know nut'n bout no receeding or such, just hard coin..whew, when he went to pick it up at da posatl office it weigh a ton.

he got a nice stash thooo..

i dun heard him say he got ta get outta dollars and into tangibles. he say bad stuff com'in, real bad..he just got a bunch of fold'n money out of da bank cause iff'n he say a runn'in happen she be bad.....he don't like the way da guvment be monetizi'in da debt .....n-flat'n he call it

#25 Possumtater on 2008-03-05 17:24 (Reply)

I'd post more often on this blog, but the level of interesting discussion here deteriorates pretty quickly. The hick/cayjun/whatever lingo is cute the first couple of posts you read, but over time it's just irritating to read and loses its intended impact. Or at least with me it does. Perhaps you could consider moderating, but perhaps you like it. WTH, it's your blog.

#26 KRW on 2008-03-05 17:59 (Reply)

oh, okay. phooey -- it was fun while it lasted tho.

#26.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 18:34 (Reply)

I was surprised by Hillary's strong showing in Ohio and Texas. I'm not a Democrat, kind of a middle-of-the-road Republican (sort of), but I find Hillary annoying to listen to: her voice, her laugh, her reasoning.

I had this same feeling about listening to Lyndon Johnson. Now I face the prospect of listening to her for 4 and maybe 8 years.

I will vote for McCain, but I'm not certain I believe that the Republicans deserve to win. I think we need to stop terrorists, but I didn't want my grandchildren to have to pay for our spending often foolish spending. Those earmarks!! Shame on us.

#27 Peter Conover on 2008-03-05 18:30 (Reply)

KRW,
I'm afraid I have to agree with you. Although it doesn't upset me - or my sons, for that matter- as much as scanitly-dressed young women, I, too, am put out by the hick accent. I am southern and I have an impeccable southern accent, each word like the purest note of a softly sung southern gospel hymn. I know that because my Sweetie, who works out of state and vamoosed with the computer, told me so. But he's not southern; he's from Indiana. Definitely not southern. Did I mention I'm southern.? My sons are southern too.
PS - vamoose is a southern word.

#28 middleagedhousewife on 2008-03-05 18:34 (Reply)

Goodness gracious me.........'impeccable'? Do tell. I bet your name is Charlotte.

#28.1 Meta on 2008-03-05 20:19 (Reply)

Mam, vamoose is a suthern word alright, and (as they are want) it's claimed to be Texian.

But it's origin is from south of Southern Texian border, where cabaleros pronounced it vamanos as they kicked dirt into the campfire and broke on.

Trisylabic words pruved tad presumptious for the yanquis cowboys and vamoose sounds more romantic when wooing range dogie hides.

#28.2 Leag on 2008-03-06 14:24 (Reply)

to be utterly precise:

"vamos" (vamos a ir) = "let's go"
"va manos" (vamanos) = "all hands go"
'hands' = caballeros on the payroll

#28.2.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-06 15:34 (Reply)

some even say that ''cowboy'' isn't the obvious 'cow + boy' but is an anglization of 'caballero' --such as 'vamoose' is to 'va manos' or 'vamose'.

#28.2.1.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-06 16:40 (Reply)

of course, it goes without saying, "caballero" is the Spanish for "horseman" -- meaning that a "cowboy" is a horseman, not a cow boy.

makes more sense thataway, anyways.

#28.2.1.1.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-06 16:47 (Reply)

Thanks for the lesson Buddy... now I gotta vamoose.

#28.2.1.1.1.1 Luther McLeod (Link) on 2008-03-06 17:08 (Reply)

All I ever get from Habu is that stuff. I don't really care, it reads like it speaks. I tend to type like I speak, so sometimes the grammar is bad, sometimes my spelling is atrocious- point is - there's a point.

I think it's generational. The older you be, the more strict the writing. These aint term papers tho'. (and age doesn't explain Habu's indiscretions)

Go too young and all you get is ROTFL, OMG!!!1!1!1, PWn3D by the ph1l5tr. That crap is useless.

#29 Phil on 2008-03-05 20:07 (Reply)

I don't feel it's an age thing, it's just tiring. All street/ghetto/redneck/whatever slang and diction is fine with me in some context of making a point or being funny. I engage myself quite frequently. But really now, I have clicked on the comments sections here expecting an interesting discussion on the interesting topic at hand and I get two posts in and the banjos start playing (and this from a guy who just bought retirement property in GA/NC). This is the only other blog I hang out on besides Will Fema's "Clicked" and I gotta say I admire the way he weeds out the chaff (to twist two metaphors). Of course this site has a lot more posts and items per day and is much harder to keep up with so approving posts here is probably unrealistic (and probably against "Maggie's" principles, which I respect). It's just one of those freedom/responsibility things to me, I supposed. I find things on this site interesting but I don't have time to wade through repetitive silliness. OK, maybe that sounds "old" but really, it's more like "busy" which is something you get as you get older.

#29.1 KRW on 2008-03-05 20:32 (Reply)

Okay, no more loose badinage from me. You're right -- it IS silly.

#29.1.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 20:45 (Reply)

Goodness. A veritable spanking. And you are Charlotte, too! My, my.

#29.1.2 Meta on 2008-03-05 20:54 (Reply)

oh yes --age explains habu very well. He are older'n the hills, and have gone quite daft. but who else make you laugh a half dozen times a day, day in day out? And a laugh is a serious matter, even more so in the breach.

#29.2 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 21:19 (Reply)

well gawlee gee wilikers. i reck'on you folks done never read no Huck Finn'er Tom Sawyer. well anyways just what yo be 'spect'n frum a Possumtater anyway?

buts i gotz da de-fin-i -tive answer...when ya comes ta Possumtater er Habu comments just don't read 'em.

YUP DAT BE RIGHT >>JUST DON"T READ 'EM ..skip on to da folk who gotz da proper thangs ta say da proper way. Now how come it take a Possumtater to point dat out to all you such offended folks, be'n how yur so smart and do'in proper.

now iff'n you let me i'll get back to read'n McGuppies Breader.

Reader caution note. Some dialects may be employed that are not suitable for the humor impaired. Please read responsibly .

#30 Possumtater on 2008-03-05 22:37 (Reply)

''JUST DON"T READ 'EM''

Pshaw! Who'da thunk it ?

#30.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 22:58 (Reply)

Sheesh, what an overreaction to a perceived overreaction. "kool aide", "miss prissy", and the inevitable "Third Reich"...looks like a lib blog.

OK, Roger Wilco. Just wont read 'em, but that's what I wasn't (was?) doing in the first place. Hence my point. But don't ask why some people don't post more often here.

#30.1.1 KRW on 2008-03-06 07:44 (Reply)

KRW, please, please, please post more often. If you would, maybe habu would shut up. you gotta FIGHT him -- the habu's of the world WANT YOU TO withhold your posts. Don't you see?

Ahhh, the lights are going off all over the world. we're all dumed.

#30.1.1.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-06 12:17 (Reply)

Hey Habu...

Yeah.

What's up dog?

Erudition !

Huh?

Yeah. Seems like some fellow contributors have issues with dialect and humor employed in the language arts.

Huh?. O, Oh yea sure dude. So what's com'in down?

I can only be me. I can't be responsible for how they feel, so I guess I'll just stay me and they'll stay the way they are. It is a hoot though reading their comments. Can you imagine actually being around them for an entire day?

No dude, sounds ugly, like maybe kool aid time.

Yep, same way I see it. And to think this is right under the Maggies Farm banner:

We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for

Sounds like they're in violation of the "Freedom from nags" clause at minimum.

Yeah, sounds like it.

#31 Habu on 2008-03-05 22:51 (Reply)

Habu, Keep it up, I may not always agree but I always enjoy your comments. Not sure about the possum yet!

#31.1 grant1863 on 2008-03-05 22:56 (Reply)

Habu... should you return. It is not Dr. M. who is stirring the pot.

#31.2 Luther McLeod (Link) on 2008-03-06 13:04 (Reply)

Mr Habu,

If that is your real name. I believe in peoples rights. The freedom to express themselves. But I want it done in the manner I dictate. No bad language, no chewing gum, no mumbling.

Now if those kind people are guilty of, as you say, the "Freedom from Nags" clause then they must be equally guilty of the "cranks", "do-gooders", and "control freaks" clauses as well. I am appalled. Pool right here in River City. Why you might as well tell them BIOYA or BOHICA.

Signed,

Miss Prissy
Recording secretary,
League of Prim and Proper

#32 Prissy on 2008-03-05 23:06 (Reply)

Dear Miss Prissy, what is needed is to outlaw the consumption of distilled spirits. Until that day comes, your crusade, recherche and smothered in probity though it may be, is, I fear, quixotic, & perhaps doomed.

#32.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-05 23:23 (Reply)

Mlle Prissy,
En mati�re du comportement de M. Habu et Possumtater je le penserais mieux si vous suiviez les r�gles de l'�tiquette propos�es par le G�n�ral Secretary des coutumes et de la croyance.

De cette mani�re vous aurez M. Habu et M. Possumtater dans une position d�favorable et pouvez pouvoir les forcer � d�missionner de leur �criture.

Avec respect,
Blanc De Pierre Francis

#33 Blanc De Pierre Francis on 2008-03-05 23:26 (Reply)

Judge B.F.D. Smithers presiding.

"In the matter of League of Prim and Proper vs. Mr Habu and one Possumtater the court finds for the defendant.

Mr. Habu you may hose down the League membership"

Signed,
Judge B.F.D. Smithers
Superior Court of Wankville

#34 Superior Court of Wankville on 2008-03-05 23:38 (Reply)

Sehr geehrte Fraulein Prissy,

Hier im das Third Reich w�rden wir an dem problem der Habu und Possumtater von ihnen standen die beiden vor einem Trupp schieben und sie zu beseitigen, das problem um die zu ende mach schnell!

Vielen Danke Shoen, Heinrich Himmler IV

#35 Herr Anonymuser on 2008-03-05 23:41 (Reply)

Ja mein Freund,
M�ssen wir alle beseitigen, die unterschiedlich sind!!!

Ernst Julius R�hm
Oberste Sturmabteilung

#36 Ernst Julius R�hm on 2008-03-06 00:23 (Reply)

Well folks it looks like we took the bait. Who baited the hook?

My best guess is Dr. Mercury.

After I made an initial greeting to potential new contributors I happened to mention that I had never seen a "gang up" on someone at MF. That was immediately challenged by Dr Mercury who quoted something I said or allegedly said as part of a "gang attack".

He failed to provide the citation of the piece he was referring to, instead deciding it would be more controlling to recount the event in his own words, and in his own style.

When challenged he backed off. I would like for him to provide the date and thread that appeared ON THIS SITE where those words he attributed to me were spoken and where the alleged "ganging up"occurred, ON THIS SITE.

Now the bait. As an attempt to prove his initial point a series of unprovoked attacks began almost immediately on me. In the service the acronym is BOOB or Bolt Out of the Blue.

It faded until later when several contributors began to take issue with dialect and presentation. This was the bait, waiting to be gobbled up by MF's hungry attack piranha.
Several MF'ers commented in a jocular manner that it was just a mannerism. The chumming of the water and the baiting of the hook produced not a "gang attack" as was hoped for but rather humorous ridicule, which it had earned.

So Dr. Mercury. Show us all where ON THIS SITE I made the comments you attributed to me and the thread under discussion so we may all judge for ourselves the veracity of your charge .

Habu

#37 Habu on 2008-03-06 01:23 (Reply)

Oh fiddle-dee-dee, yall. I never, for just the teensiest moment, meant any harm at all. Could you not see how proud of my southern-ness I am? I am so deeply ashamed that I have brought any pain to anybody - anybody at all. I have wronged somebody, I have tread upon your invitation to join yall in the drawing room of conversation and discussion. I have stepped heavily upon the hospitailty that you all extended to me and brought shame to my kin. Please allow me to say that it was never my intention to be deragatory in any manner whatsoever. I can't begin to think what I might have been thinking at the time. I do believe that I have dug myself a hole and regretfully - at least on my part - I must spend a certain amount of time inside of it. Or, as my mama always said -I danced, now I have to pay the fiddler - though I don't remember dancing and I do detest that fiddle music, especially in the early spring. Oh well, it must be done. I will set about gathering my things together for my exile, during which I will rue the day I put aside my upbringing and spat upon the hand held out to me in friendship and invitation. I am a loathsome worm, not fit to crawl upon a keyboard. I am filled with remorse. I go now to my exile. May my sons forgive me and my husband, who works out of state and absconded with my computer, never find out.
now where did Prissy hide those cucumber sandwiches....

#38 middleagedhousewife on 2008-03-06 10:41 (Reply)

Sandwich? You need to find the cucumber first. I bet if you loosened your supremely tight sphincter, you'd find it quick.

#38.1 Meta on 2008-03-06 11:54 (Reply)

wouldn't THAT be a pickle!
(*groan*)

#38.1.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-06 12:05 (Reply)

Shove it granny. You're not filled with remorse, you're full of bull shit.

#38.2 Habu on 2008-03-06 14:43 (Reply)

work on your clarity, habu -- that was too vague.

#38.2.1 buddy larsen on 2008-03-06 15:56 (Reply)

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