We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all - security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."
Plato's Republic opens with a discussion held in the household of metics. Metics were not slaves, they were not citizens. Metics were foreigners or even Greeks without citizenship status. They did the work.
It is a crushing misdeed to write less than a book on their contributions, and many books have been written, but I bring the metics up as an example of what our open borders are doing to our country and the huge influx of illegals.
Greek citizens found manual work, and later even more damning, labor of any type beneath them...it was left to be done by the metics. Given that they owed no allegiance to the polis, and with the Greeks growing softer with every generation the inevitable happened...all the Burger Kings were closed..no, no , wrong info...the Greeks got fat and lost their civilization.
Instructive? I'd say so. History can teach us a great deal. As Yogi said, "You can see a lot by just watching"
I'm with you there, Habu. Would you say something similar happened in Rome? Started out from a bunch of strong farmers, who would put the plow down when necessary, take up the sword, then back to the plow. Then things got more complicated.
Yeah Bob, once a country gets to certain points it always seems like the trend line is downward.
I still believe our Constitution is the best way to go but those we elect seem to be coming from a smaller and smaller group of "professional "politicians. Those who have worked their way up the party ladder to finally win nomination as dog catcher, then school superintendent , then state legislator etc.
Or from the millionaire class.
I'd like to see General Petreus run in a few years and win.
We're sure gonna see something in November the outcome of which is critical to this country. Good luck to us.