We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
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Friday, November 9. 2007
We hold contradictory views of dogs.
One is the old-fashioned view: to regard them as work animals, trained for service, from which high levels of obedience and performance are expected, and ideally kenneled outdoors. Guard dogs, hunting dogs, fox-hunting dogs, sled dogs, rescuer dogs, tracking dogs, police dogs, seeing-eye dogs, race dogs, Saint Bernards carrying cheap brandy, and so forth. Servants, not friends, who are to be put down if they cannot handle their task.
But that view is more from our hard head than from the heart, because we love dogs and they love us, if they are allowed to, in mysterious ways which go far beyond the provision of kibbles: dear pals, providers of unconditional love, nightime foot-warmers, front-of-fireplace curlers, boisterous walking companions, food stealers, and cave-protectors.
Passionate Conservative talk show host and Constitutional Law expert Mark Levin is whole-heartedly in the latter camp. He only owns dogs rescued from shelters. Of his latest book Rescuing Sprite, he comments:
Well, he slips into the anthropomorphic, or pathetic, fallacy here, but I know what he means. Country folk are not so sentimental about dogs.
I aim for a compromise, but all of us at Maggie's Farm are suckers for a puppy.
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Depends. Country people in the South are pretty sentimental about dogs, and many of them are working dogs. You've heard the dogs and trucks stereotype, I'm sure.
I think there's a relationship between dogs and civilization. Note that the most barbaric areas of the globe are also the most caniphobic. Dogs keep us human.
My Brittany has her own chair in the house and always rides in the front seat of my car, the biggest slob you ever saw. Until I put in my hunting cloths and get her in the field. Then she's a completely different dog, all business.
saw Levin on Hannity & the Fool show, talking his book, and i damn near sprung a tear listening to him talk about trust, and having to let it down and play god with a sick friend. absolutely over-sentimental, but...i understood it.
I have two mutt German Shepherd mixes both of whom (or which) were rescued with the arm-twisting connivance of my kids from shelters. The older one who is almost thirteen we believe to be a coyote mix. In her wild and wooly youth, she could leap most fences including the hedges next to them and would get "lost" miles from our home only to be returned because of either her tags or her micro-chip from the city pound. As she is now considered elderly, she only jumps one cyclone fence which is the reason she is on a lead when in the yard. She outgrew her wandering days but likes to poop under the bird feeder.
The younger guy is mostly shepherd with a sprinkle of Rott. But he is the gentle beast of the village and a dog that new owners bring to socialize their own pups, and friends bring their small boys to pet.
My daughter named him Winston after both Churchill and the protagonist of "1984". I think that he favors the former name sake. I keep expecting him to want a cigar and brandy.
Both have caught possums in the yard but left them intact although a bit wiser about trespassing when the dogs are out.
I agree that dogs exist to teach us joy.
I submit that even a working dog is all about joy.
A dog knows its role in your life, and brings joy to even the hardest of tasks. Have you ever seen sled dogs in Alaska? Are their tails drooping? They find joy.
If they could talk, they would probably repeat this sentence:
"I am so happy!"
We should learn to be like them: Enjoy what you do.
remember this holiday season...alcohol and handcuffs do not mix...
Autopsy: Woman who died at Phoenix airport strangled herself
Potent mix of alcohol, antidepressants found in her body.
PHOENIX — A woman who died in police custody during an airport layover was intoxicated on a potent mix of alcohol and antidepressants and accidentally strangled herself on her shackles, an autopsy released today concludes.
the disposition of noble dogs is to be gentle with people they know and then the opposite with those they don't know...How, then, can the dog be anything other than a lover of learning since it defines what's its own and what's alien?
I have often thought that dogs prove that God lives and that God loves people. How else would we have gotten somebody who loves us this unconditionally; can do all sorts of jobs that need doing, including hunting and guarding and guiding; force us to go outdoors and get away from our screens; AND can be house-broken? Dogs were designed to bring joy to us. IYes, some of it is breeding, but God gave us the raw material.
I hate to envision a world without dogs. ALL my dogs came from shelters, too -- why not save money and save a life?
And it's true -- MUslims hate dogs and consider them evil. Interesting.
is it cuz dogs can sniff out more than the one type of a**hole?
Well said, park slope. Dogs are a gift of love....so much we could learn from them if we tried.
Our lives are filled with love, unconditional love...devotion, lovalty, wisdom.
(unfortunately, they also fart more than any living organism on the planet...don't forget, they are omnivores!)
One of the unsatisfactory things in life is that dogs don't live as long as people, so in the course of things, you go through a number of dogs, picking up with each more or less where you left off, until one day you die first.
For each, you have to teach what every pup has to know, and show it work that it can be happy in.
For my part, I tolerate pups, because they become dogs.
A couple thousand Doberman pics
Take a camera when you go outside.
I had a dog when I was a kid that fell into a manhole by the creek....twenty eight days and finally found by a city crew guy. Little thin, little smelly, but tail wagging like always!
Our dog, a Black Lab, will sleep all day and into the night, sleeping, waiting, listening to talk radio (she likes conservative hosts), and sleeping and sighing and waiting.
When we finally arrive home, late, after much dinner and pie at Gramma's house, she will dutifully jump into bed and sleep with my boy, her master, because that is her duty and she knows it.
Does anybody here dance with their dogs to Miss Aretha's RESPECT? My Texas labs love this song and, Good God, they have some serious rythym. They like Chain of Fools also, plus Marvin Gaye's Let's Get It On - these are some seriously block headed soulful dogs. They're good at retrieving too!
No one tells you that you're buying a beaver when you acquire your first fine Lab, these sombitches will eat everything until they pass two years of age.
TV remotes, baskets, firewood, Christmas trees, drum set, kitchen towels, snow skis, fences, and (my fav) a battery powered metronome....when we came home that night both Labs were in the corner of the room ....as far away from the beeping thing as possible! It started clicking when chewed and they did not like that at all! Wish we had taken a picture (too busy laughing!).
Did not stop till they were about 2 years old.
Used to bring home large sturdy cardboard boxes and leave them in the yard with the dogs so they had something to chew up while I was at work. They loved it! Only drawback was picking up all the pieces every night. But, better than pieces of patio furniture, etc.
Labs are all heart...the best!
By the way, it's not good Biblical theology to exclude Fido frp, heaven.
from "Belonging to the Universe" dialogue between Fritjof Capra and David Steindal-Rast and Thoms Matus--
Fritjof--'What about immortality and life after death?'
Thomas--'The immortality of the soul is spoken of in one book in the Bible only, in the Old Testament, called the Wisdom of Soloman, which is, by the way, not even recognized by Jewish scholars or by Protestants. It's part of the Roman Catholic "canon" of Scripture; more precisely, it is called deuterocanonical, an inspired book added to the Hebrew Bible after it was translated into Greek.'
David--'It's a thin trickle, and even the resurrection of Jesus has precious little, if anything, to do with the immortality of the soul. That is a Greek notion. It came into Christian tradition from Greek philosophy.'
Fritjof--'But the resurrection is something distinctly human, isn't it? The plants do not resurrect.'
Thomas--'On the contrary. That's the old paradigm, that your pets will not be in heaven. That's one of the most terrible things ever said to children! This is not theology. This is cultural baggage, a whole collection of trinkets that is not theology.'
Fritjof--'So how do you interpret the credo that speaks about the resurrection of the flesh and eternal life? This is commonly understood as the exclusively human future, salvation.'
David--'But only in popular opinion. Rightly understood, it means cosmic renewal.'
Pet owners of the world, rejoice! :)
Oh my--I have been blessed with some great characters from large to small, from stupid to smart as a 5 year old human. Current little job is quiet except when protecting her family, or when she wants me to get my beloved to do something for her. She undersands she has to go to the old 'b--ch' to get something to happen around here ;-)
But, she loves us both equally and so dutifully it is amazing sometimes how she keeps us both organized according to the clock.
However, I can never forget the little red marmalade kitty that adopted me and stayed with me for 15 years. He held me connected to the face of this planet!
Does anyone here have any experience with Rhodesian Ridgebacks? Can you tell me something about their farm/ranch qualities?
AP, from what experience i've had (i know a couple folks who've had 'em), they are roamers. Territory runs large, i guess you could say.
I really like Great Pyrenees for a herd dog. Nice deep bark seems to scare coyotes--no mean thing in coyote country--and they will stick with the farm animals. They seem to have this protective, vigilant, nature.
THanks for the info. As you can probably guess we are looking for something to help take care of thiings up on the place. A big brown (Griz?) and two cubs last month, less than a city block away from the cabin. Thought maybe we would look into Karelian Bear Dogs. Any info about these would be welcome also!
I still remember my old dog Duchess. She seemed to know when I was sad or when I was happy. If I was sad, she was pressed right up against my leg and looking up at me to let me know she was there.
When I got her from the shelter she would not have anything to do with anyone with a cane or crutch or wheelchair. I guess someone had really mistreated her. After about 6 months she would tolerate almost anyone so long as I was there. I learned that if she did not take to someone, there really was something wrong with them. Found that out the hard way. She also was really good about people outside the apartment door. If someone stayed there too long she let them know and they moved on.
I was living in NYC during the first blackout and she really was upset about that. I took her for a walk and if somebody there was not from the neighborhood (and she knew everyone from the neighborhood), she would growl and they moved on fast (big black lab with a deep and loud growl). There were a couple more dogs like her around there. We had no breakins at all during the blackout, in large part IMNSHO because of the dogs.
To this day I have not had another dog that was her equal. At the time I was alone and I swear she kept me sane just with her undivided caring. I was followed home one night by a little cat when I had her out for a walk. The cat was there for a couple of days so I brought it in and fed it. The two bonded right away. The cat ended up having 7 kittens and Duchess would sit on the end of the bed and watch the kittens for hours playing in their box. If someone other than me came close to them she would skootch closer and watch them closely. After the kittens got old enough to be out of the box she would lie down and let them crawl all over her. She even would wait and let them eat from her bowl and then eat whatever they didn't. Never had another one like that. I still miss her and she has been gone for 30 years.
thank you for sharing...spoke to my heart. Current Lab, Rosie (now 12 years old) has such a place in my soul. I never knew what having a good dog was like till her....my life is richer beyond words.
First, I'm pleased to have found this blog, y'all sound like people I'd enjoy knowing.
Dogs, I've had three in my life, a female Cocker Spaniel my parents owned when i was a child back during WW2, "Domino" a female Alaskan Husky I finally had to give away because she was too much for my wife to handle on walks. We found her a home on a nearby farm where she lived a long and happy life, finally dying of old age recently, and the third and present incumbent "Sakura", which I'm told means "cherry blossom" in Japanese, she's a female "Pit Bull" and contrary to "popular thought" she is a sweetheart, intelligent and friendly to all, when she does not like someone, (very rare) I look for a reason, trusting her instincts. Dogs have been Man's oldest friends, though I sometimes wonder why, and what we have done to earn such loyalty.