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Friday, March 23. 2007
We try not to worry too much about keeping up with day-to-day news, but the House vote today was shameful.
With 20-20 hindsight, we can all have our own opinions on Iraq, but turning one's back on one's country in a time of war is contemptible. I don't think this has ever happened in American history - with or without peanut storage and spinach farmer subsidies and the whatever billions of vote-buying (with your hard-earned money and mine) required to produce a plan for defeat.
Why not put the energy into helping figure out how to be successful?
It makes me sad. I can't imagine how soldiers and their families must feel to have half of their government rooting for their failure. No wonder people hate politics and politicians.
And, to be a bit self-revealing, the idea that Osama and Al Quaida in Iraq are popping champagne tonight with the Dems sickens me.
There is something non-serious and high-school-ish about all of this.
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Is the Democratic party now finally ojectively pro-terrorist?
I think I know the answer, but I can't believe it.
But there it is.
I am actually thankful that the Dem's have done this, as long as the President wields his veto pen. The more they portray themselves as outliers, defeatist's and having no interest nor passion for the defense of this country, the more they make the choice, in 2008, clear. I would like too get things settled.
This approximately 50/50 split is killing us. We need decisive moves from the Dem's so as to illustrate their abject disconnect from the 'real' world. OTOH, have sixty years of Marxist/Gramsican(sp) influence rotted us to the core. Well let's find out.
Maybe Habu will allow me a small tent on the edge of his property.
Habu's place? OK, well, fine - but perhaps Maggie's Farm is the place for y'all, and you are virtually there already!
As soon as the snow melts, we'll put you to work in the fields.
Hey! I have picked cotton you know. And corn, peas, beans, peanuts etc. Crap, I guess I'm qualified. Though I hear the pay is good at Maggie's.
Well there's all those other benefits. Just give me a second too think.
The situation in America is rapidly deteriorating, politically and socially. It bodes badly for the years to come as sooner or later a major internal national crisis will occur. It is an utter shame to see the Democrats become a party of panderers, of pimps, of persons grasping only political opportunism as both means and ends. They dishonor themselves and are setting in motion forces that can easily grow out of control. We are part now of sad times. Let us hope that our combined response has some spine in it.
I'd agree with Hetman, except the markets and economy are so optimistic. not that it's all the same as the culture--it ain't--but that if the culture unravels, commerce will lead the way. Markets are all about confidence in the future. Countercurrents--which will eddy out, and which will mainstream?
Buddy, your point is well taken. The economy is both holding us together and numbing some otherwise critical minds. A full belly does wonders for calming consciences. However, we don't know just how long this nirvana of prosperity will last. It was only a few days ago when it appeared that there was a major housing crisis with record foreclosures on shakey mortgages afoot. And there are still folks who have nightmares about the 2001 economy and who make it seem as if they lived through the Great Depression. Not to mention that China may not be the Great Wall of Economic Stability in years to come.
The NY Times is falling over itself calling the Democrats' bill as a "victory." Some victory.
Pork, peanuts, and shrimp first; Iraq second. But don't question their patriotism!
True enough. Money moves at light speed nowadays--and for that reason, players don't price risk as high as they used to. But re the current bugaboo, the subprime foreclosure bear, remember that almost half (49%) of all homes are paid-off mortgage-free, and subprime/adjustables are only about 5% of mortgages, and statistically the worst-case on defaults will be no more than 10% of that 5%. News industry has to hype, of course--and the scaremongering Dems have been busy, too.
Just like losing the war suits their "isolated American market" union dream, a busted economy suits their other subconscious (maybe) dream, the pessimistic, government-dependent, population.
You are right in that money moves at light speed. But, that is actually the reason that the market is optimistic. The market is global - because money has gone global. The barriers for investors of all sizes to spread their risk through global investments has all but disappeared over the last 5-7 years. That is flattening out the business cycle. That stability, while bringing many benefits, is decoupling personal experience from societal experience. Parts of the US economy, such as that experienced by poor blue collar workers (the subprime mortgage set) can go to hell and a handbasket while the economy and markets overall chug along at a pleasant pace.
I know, I know. Off topic. But, that decoupling of micro and macro economy is the reason that you can have a strong, healthy economic reality and a growing orthodoxy that individuals are living through "another depression".
1. Good politics does not guarantee good design.
2. In order to move toward what it is that we want, we must stop backing away from what it is that we do not want!
Kevin, you're right--globalism is moving production to the low-cost producers and that leaves a lot of blue-collar American industrial workers out of luck--though not enough to make much dent in the national unemployment numbers.
There are but two broad solutions--protectionism, which will save some jobs but raise the cost of living for all Americans--hurting the entire lower-income sector, not just the rust-belt manufacturing workers.
The other solution is the free-market. I know it seems heartless to be so cavalier about someone else's real pain, but it's really a question of national numbers--and national cost/benefits.
Do we want this low-unemployment, high-growth economy which helps everyone but priced-out industrial workers, or do we want to protect this sector at the cost of slower growth, higher costs-of-living, and the higher interest rates & inflation that will result when we start tariffing, distorting & regulating?
What is hard-hearted at first glance may not be hard-hearted at all--just realistic about fast-moving change in the world.
Change that is not all good, but should be judged in total, and not politicized via considering only the downsides while treating the upsides as just the natural state of being, hardly worthy of mention.
Oh Gads, what I would not give for these times:
I remember as a youngster hearing the grownups discuss in hushed tones the moral decay that Peyton Place meant was happening in our land. I remember thinking "Yowza!"
Hmmm, so you would all go to the wall to support a terribly failed policy and a poorly conducted war led by idologues blinded by their incomplete ideas. Perhaps it is not the Demoncratic majority in House that needs examination but your misguided fervor for others to die in service of really, really bad thinking.
When I read the jingoism that permeates the war discussion I fear for the future of the country. You all purport to be the wise and thoughtful ones, yet given an opportunity to comment on a disaster you blast the questioners and support the worst foreign policy team the last hundred years.
Yep, Lewis, that's about the size of it. I like death and stupidity and hatred. But mostly I just want to offend you, and ruin your life. And yer momma's life, too.
Unfair accusations, JML.
We do not blast questioners here. We are not jingoistic, but we are patriotic. Maggie's Farm had divided views about the wisdom of going into Iraq - but we are there now - with a duty and an opportunity. If we hang tough, it just might work out for the best. Most things in life are like that.
We have been under attack since 1979 (in this phase), and it finally became intolerable on 911. Since then, we have made mistakes, but we had little choice but to fight back.
People like Lewis have hyper-keen vision & ultra-high standards for one side (us) and are utterly blind to and ignorant of the other side (those who attack us).
That's why people like Lewis are able to bluster in such high moral dudgeon. They can't--or won't--look at the reality of the situation.
Must be nice, to be able to grant oneself such god-like perspicacity, such self-awarded Solomonic wisdom, and then proclaim one's virtue and one's selected version of half-truths from such a lofty position.
Wonder if Madan Comrade Speaker was sending a signal, wearing that Hugo-Red color on the day of the vote.
Nahhh, I must be paranoid.
If I had to bet, yes--but not that she's ever say it. I believe the San Francisco Democrats got lost on the way to Econ 101 class. Hence, all a Chavez or a Fidel need do to earn their admiration is to say the right stuff. Talk "social justice" and on go the Che! T-shirts.
I say little these days, while I try to hold down the rage welling in my heart.
Don't choke on it John. Maggie's may be the place for you to let it out. Lot's of professional, semi-professional and otherwise un-professional help for you here.
well, I shouldn't antagonize--my two cents ain't gonna help John much.