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Friday, March 16. 2007
Dang. That clever Sam Harris figured out that we Christians really want a theocracy, and want nothing more than to behead all those who will not kneel to Christ and his right-wing mission in America.
It is astonishing how much he understands about the covert machinations of the Christian faith, and our intentions for America. Who spilled the beans? Who was the leaker? Armitage? Rove? Bush himself?
We do indeed hide behind nominal Christians like wolves in sheep's clothing - that is how diabolically sneaky we are. And Bush is our secret Dear leader, but shhhh - don't tell anybody about our ultra, ultra Secret Plan to sneak
Read Sam's brilliantly penetrating, earth-shaking, Pulitzer-worthy expose of the dastardly Christian plot against good, old-fashioned, pagan, communitarian America here.
My questions: Why doesn't he wonder what we evil ones are waiting for to institute the theocracy we desire? And why haven't we done it already, since we already have Bush as a dictator? And, third, what planet does this dude live on? Is Pluto still a planet? No, I guess not anymore.
Tell me, Dr. Sanity, or Dr. Bliss - does this guy qualify as paranoid? Or just plain ignorant? His lack of tolerance for others seems positively hostile...
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Big snow up here, too, in NH. Lovely.
Paranoid? Who knows. I understand why you ask. What does it matter? "Forgive them, for they know not what they do."
one cannot be human
and exist w/o a "metaphysic".
Harris's metaphysic happens to be:
"there is no god".
anything that threatens that ideology
threatens him personally.
Harris is not "agnostic",he is "a-theist"(or "anti-theist"),
hence his rancor and paranoia for theists.
it's very logical.
"Dominionists?" Dang! And here I finally got accepted by the Illuminati. Figures. I wonder if their dues are less....
I agree, Mr. Gumshoe. I began to post before I read your comment, but it is true. Everyone has one, even if they do not acknowlege it. All you have to do is to look at how you live and spend your time, and it becomes obvious.
What I do not understand is why "he is threatened personally." Why would he care what I think, if he is a tolerant liberal person? Really. Why? He is not my keeper, and I am a reasonably happy and reasonably successful and educated Manitoban adult.
"What I do not understand is why "he is threatened personally." Why would he care what I think, if he is a tolerant liberal person? Really. Why?"
Art C. -
just specualting here...
but i'd guess Mr. Harris's cogitations
go something like this(mix and match):
all religions are alike...ie NO differences.
all religions are irrational ...NO exceptions.
the islamists are clearly at threat to civil existence world-wide,but to say so demands that one:
1) take sides
2) possibly risk one's fortune,life,and family
3) besides...all religions are alike...ie NO differences.
thefore the islamists MUST be responding to the provocations of other IRRATIOANAL religious actors....ie the Zionists and those American Christo-facists.
since is is clear that islamists take mohammed's
"i have been made victorious by terror" seriously,
and BECAUSE "all religions are alike...ie NO differences",
there simply MUST be a secret cabal of head-chopping Christo-Facists yearning to make him submit to Christianity,
give up his rights to free speech,forcible church attendance,endure Chrismas trees,the whole nine yards...etc.under penalties he would have to ennumerate himself.
while these sorts of strictures are LIKELY under Sharia law,
Mr Harris imagines Christians are threatened enough by the depth and erudition of his personal metaphysic that they would seek,en-mass, to force him to give up his world-view and beliefs.
in his view,you are part of that "Borg".
it doesn't matter that you aren't,
when seen from inside his head.
Harris speaks as if a 12 year old. Newly enamored of his privilege to say what he likes, without fear of repercussion. Thus exposing the emptiness of his words. His relativity of religion betrays his bias. He thinks he knows it all, or at least enough to do better than Christianity over the last 2000 years. What egotistical audacity.
My intuition tells me that this guy is lookin for a job in academia!
How bad it is: I once attended a lecture given by an academic visiting from out of state. His itinerary was to speak at the UW and then to have lunch. After lunch he was scheduled to drive across town and speak at the Methodist college. His subject had absolutely NOTHING to do with religion. He was speaking about teaching. During the Q and A session, a UW grad student stood up and asked him how he could think so logically about education and still go speak at a "fundamentalist" university? At that point maybe 20 students in a an audience of 100 began shouting at this poor guy that his work would never be accepted, because he was so stupid as to go speak at a "fundamentalist" university and they (the Methodists) did not care about truth/fact, or logic. They only cared about "fundamentalist religion BS", and on and on and on and on and on. NO teacher in the audience stood up and tried to explain that the Methodists were not fundamentalist; that this speaker had a right to speak anywhere he chose, or that if the Methodists were so bad, that it was a good thing this guy was going over there to try to bring them up to speed on his subject. NOPE, not a one. This guy was attacked viciously by people shouting and raging against a religion about which they had no understanding, against a guy, who was just going to go give a talk on a Methodist campus.
What a jerk! Sounded like liquor fuelled bravado to me!
As an ordinary (deluded?) Christian who believes that the Bible is the Word of God that contains all things necessary for our salvation, I feel sorry for him personally, but angry that he so misunderstands and attacks believers.
I took a half vacation day yesterday to cook a feast for the members of my Lenten small group yesterday. Drove in my fiendishly gas guzzling truck thru nine inches of unplowed snow and ice to my church friends' house in the evening. We socialized, prayed, ate, shared tales of how to parent good little future rampaging Crusaders, reflected on the life and friendship of Jesus, shared stories from our own journeys, exhorted and encouraged each other, then drove back thru more snow and ice to our homes, restored and cheered. No talk of politics, just examination of our own sins and weaknesses, mutual encouragement, a shared hope in a God who makes demands but who strengthens and comforts us to meet the challenges.
No plans to torture and burn infidels at the stake or impose our will on anyone. Just renewed desire to tend our own gardens with care, love our neighbors even when they or we are unloveable.
Such a cliche, but a lone spark goes out. Raked together, we can burst into flame. I think it is ultimately the community building impulse that terrifies the ranting, angry Harris' of this world. Groups educate, guide, care for, and hold each other accountable. You have to behave. And Christianity has always been about a life lived in community. First, the hopeful response to a personal invitation from God. Then the realization that the redeemed life is about belonging to a new family, the church, with all the demands, imperfections and rewards of any family.
I hink your wrong, this guy sounds more like an open and shut case of displacement.