We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
An Amish boy and his father were in a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny, silver walls that could move apart and then slide back together again.
The boy asked, "What is this, Father?"
The father (never having seen an elevator) responded, "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is."
While the boy and his father were watching with amazement, a fat old lady in a wheel chair moved up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched the small circular numbers above the walls light up sequentially. They continued to watch until it reached the last number and then the numbers began to light in the reverse order.
Finally the walls opened up again and a gorgeous 24-year-old blonde stepped out.
The father said quietly to his son....."Go get your mother."
LOL! Though the Amish aren't that secluded. Wal-Mart here is full of Amish and Old Order Mennonites every Wednesday (not sure why Wednesday, but it seems to be the day they come to town).
Speaking of, when we moved to Pennsylvania, people (faculty from other parts of the US) kept saying, "Oh, you'll get used to the Amish." We moved here from Indiana. We grew up around the Amish. We felt it was a very strange thing to say, unless you had never been around them.
Numbers matter, though. Where we can afford a limited number of counter-culture (eccentric) communities, should we make space for large and growing fundamentalist Muslim communities that have more affinity for and allegiance toward Muslims elsewhere than for and toward non-Muslim Americans here? Our principles of individual freedom and conscience will be tested and probably found to be limited when it comes to this country having sizeable populations of culturally and politically unassimilated people exercising their right to vote to change our system.
quaint vs. tyranny of the minority
Wish I knew the answer to that. The Founders never dreamed of cultural differences.
"Where we can afford a limited number of counter-culture (eccentric) communities, should we make space for large and growing fundamentalist Muslim communities that have more affinity for and allegiance toward Muslims elsewhere than for and toward non-Muslim Americans here?"
I fail to see the relationship between the two. The more conservative Anabaptist groups, such as the different Amish and Old Order Mennonite communities, have no interest in affecting the world around them, but merely want to be left alone to follow their religious principles. How do they relate to a group of immigrants who want to force their rule of law on the rest of the nation?
The Anabaptists are hard working, independent, and not unfriendly (though they avoid excessive contact with those outside their community). They refuse to take government aid (though Ohio is trying to figure out how to force them to do so) of any kind.
I just don't see any relationship at all between them and Muslims.