Maggie's Farm

feeblemind: If I read the post correctly, he said the subway is safe as long as you know you are prey and keep your head on a swivel to watch for predators.

NYC Subway Crime Drops to Historic Lows. New York City is much safer than many other USA cities, and New York State has a lower homicide rate than most other states, including Florida and Texas.

Sorta like how Charlie Kirk painted his political adversaries as not just wrong, but genocidal: “The same way that Joseph Stalin went after the kulaks, they wanna go after you... they won't stop until you and your children and your children's children are eliminated.”

BornSouthern: (And yeah I know about Paul Pelosi, and the Hortmans and the Hoffmans)

So, what you seem to be granting is that there is extremist violence on both sides of the political spectrum. And there are plenty of people on the political right who suggest violence, including Trump who has even used eliminationist rhetoric.

Studies have shown that there is more political violence coming from the political right. For instance, see Jasco et al., A comparison of political violence by left-wing, right-wing, and Islamist extremists in the United States and the world, PNAS 2022.

There is a difference between saying someone has communist or fascist views, without claiming they also support the holodomor or the holocaust. Kirk was exhibiting the very rhetoric at issue in the article.

Assistant Village Idiot: Charlie Kirk claimed that his opponents - our opponents - want us dead.

Which is false. While there are certainly extremists on the political left, the left as a whole isn’t violent much less genocidal. And while there are certainly extremists on the political right, the right as a whole isn’t violent much less genocidal. The falsehood follows from a faulty generalization.

Taking the example of Kirk, he used a nebulous “they” and “the left” to smear his opponents as not just wanting to commit a holomodor, but to be actually effecting it—which is absurd. Perhaps you picture effete liberals wanting to import cheap labor to tend their lawns while they drink lattes by the pool, but that’s hardly a holomodor.

Meanwhile, Brian Kilmeade of Fox News just publicly called for the murder of homeless people. Literally.

“Just kill them.”

Anon: Except, because you’re dishonest, you left out the part where it shows he was specifically talking about DeCarlos Brown, Jr. and similar situations, not the homeless in general.

No. He wasn't speaking about Brown specifically. The pronoun was plural, "them", repeated several times in the conversation, and referred to the mentally ill and the homeless. Even your own false formulation is heinous, to execute someone because of what they might do in the future—in the judgment of the government. Notably, the co-hosts didn't take exception.