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My only real beef with this is that you can't compare Hillsdale College with an educational industrial giant like Harvard. Hillsdale College does not need government grants.

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I don't think Harvard needs them either. But the militray does rely on Harvard and MIT, and others.

#1 jack walter on 2025-04-18 14:15 (Reply)

jack walter: I don't think Harvard needs them either.

Federal funding for Harvard includes funding for scientific research, including cancer research. Harvard has had 162 Nobel laureates, including one just last year.

#1.1 Zachriel on 2025-04-18 15:09 (Reply)

If some corporation was performing a federal contract...defense, medical research, whatever..and that same corporation maintained an environment in which Jewish employees were intimidated and discriminated against, would/should the government continue funding them because the work done under the contract was important? Or yank the contract and award it to a more responsible entity?

#2 David Foster (Link) on 2025-04-18 15:58 (Reply)

David Foster: that same corporation maintained an environment in which Jewish employees were intimidated and discriminated against …

Except they haven’t maintained the environment, but worked closely with Jewish groups to address their concerns. The complaints by Trump are clearly pretextual, using the power of government to punish and bring to heel Trump’s perceived enemies. It’s authoritarian by nature, far from any notion of small-government conservatism.

#2.1 Zachriel on 2025-04-18 21:58 (Reply)

Some reading for you:

https://x.com/ShabbosK

#3 David Foster (Link) on 2025-04-19 11:53 (Reply)

David Foster: Some reading for you:

Filing a lawsuit is not a finding of fact, but the court did say that the complaint was plausible. The parties will have their day in court. However imperfect any human endeavor might be, whether the courts or Harvard, it's all about due process and accountability.

David Foster: Or yank the contract and award it to a more responsible entity?

Harvard is a very large and complex enterprise, with institutional capabilities not easily duplicated elsewhere. Nor is most of the organization implicated. A scalpel, not a sledgehammer is the appropriate remedy (though as already noted, many reforms have already been implemented).

Meanwhile, White House claims letter to Harvard with {outrageous} demands was an ‘unauthorized’ mistake

#3.1 Zachriel on 2025-04-19 12:08 (Reply)

Ivy League schools have larger endowments than the GDPs of many nations. They don’t need our tax dollars for anything.
They are not exempt from the laws that everyone else must follow.

#4 Spurt Reynolds on 2025-04-19 13:35 (Reply)

Spurt Reynolds: Ivy League schools have larger endowments than the GDPs of many nations.

While large, the endowments are not unlimited. It is to the advantage of America to invest in university science, including Harvard medical. Else: the scientists will leave, the concentration of talent and expertise will be dispersed, and the institutional knowledge lost.

Spurt Reynolds: They are not exempt from the laws that everyone else must follow.

Of course. That's what due process is all about.

#4.1 Zachriel on 2025-04-19 15:10 (Reply)

Harvard and Yale were founded as the educational branch of the Puritan theocracies so they've always been an arm of the government.

Let's change that.

#5 Whitehall on 2025-04-20 21:41 (Reply)

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