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Sensational new discoveries arising from long-forgotten early aerial photographs indicate that ice has remained stable and even grown slightly since the 1930s over a 2,000 km stretch of East Antarctica.

While the ice mass of East Antarctica is relatively stable, Antarctic ice mass is decreasing over time, as is Greenland's.

#1 Zachriel on 2025-03-13 09:26 (Reply)

Oh, noes! We've reached Peak Ice! What will we do for our summer cocktails?

#1.1 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2025-03-13 10:00 (Reply)

Oh. A scary graph of “cumulative uncertainty.”

I really want to know how you measure a half of an inch (12.7mm) in sea level rise across the vast expanse of the world’s oceans. Cumulative uncertainty. In plain English: a wild ass guess.

Anyway, I was promised that NY City would be completely flooded by this time. I was promised the end of the world at least a dozen times. And don’t forget - in the mid 1970’s - that it was an eminent ice age coming to kill us all. Oh, and mass starvation.

Your religion is depressing. To much doom and gloom.

“It’s the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.” - R.E.M.

#1.2 B. Hammer on 2025-03-13 10:40 (Reply)

B. Hammer: Cumulative uncertainty.

Cumulative refers to summing the uncertainties of each separate region.

B. Hammer: how you measure a half of an inch (12.7mm) in sea level rise across the vast expanse of the world’s oceans

Arithmetic. Take the volume of ice melt divided by the "vast expanse of the world's oceans". (The calculation does not include the thermal expansion of the oceans.)

B. Hammer: In plain English: a wild ass guess.

No. That's not what uncertainty means in science, which is standard deviation from the mean.

B. Hammer: I was promised the end of the world at least a dozen times.

Don't worry. The planet will continue to revolve around the sun. More particularly, humans, with their scientific knowledge and technological ingenuity, are more than capable of addressing the problem of anthropogenic global warming. But keep in mind that part of humanity's adaptability is being able to project the future and avoid the most dire outcomes.

#1.2.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-13 11:19 (Reply)

I am grateful that Zeldin is cutting the EPA budget by 65%. That should help curb the AGW narrative by a considerable amount and allow the grifters to find productive work.

#1.2.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2025-03-13 13:40 (Reply)

If I take a volume of water, say 1 gallon, and divide it by another volume of water, say 600 gallons, what does that tell me? The units cancel, leaving me with a ratio of 1/600. That ratio by itself doesn’t really tell me much. If I’m trying to figure out how much the gallon of water will increase the level of water in the tank holding the 600 gallons, I’m going to need more information. I’m going to need the dimensions of the tank. Well, that’s rather difficult, for one thing the tank doesn’t have straight walls, and the slope at the surface varies greatly over long stretches. Plus some of the tank is exposed to more sun light than other areas. If I I take some measurements and average it out, there is going to be some error. The more I measure, the more uncertainty I have about my volume. I’m not even sure about the depth of my tank. The bottom surface is uneven, and pretty porous in areas. And that one gallon that I dumped in, I’m not really sure about that measurement either. Every measurement I take, I have error. I really don’t want to admit error, so I think I’ll come up with nifty jargon called cumulative uncertainty.

And while you’re talking Barbara Streisand, there is all kinds of cumulative uncertainty concerning the amount of water in any given cubic meter of Arctic ice. And what about evaporation? Thermal expansion. LOL. Indeed.

#1.2.1.2 B. Hammer on 2025-03-13 15:06 (Reply)

Chicken Little, don't worry. The world isn't going to end. The planet is always getting colder or warmer. The climate is always changing and always will, Chicken Little.

#1.3 jack walter on 2025-03-13 14:03 (Reply)

jack walter: The world isn't going to end.

Don't worry. The planet will continue to revolve around the sun.

jack walter: The planet is always getting colder or warmer.

Gosh. What will those climate scientists come up with next?! (Meaning you believe climate scientists when they agree with your preconceptions, but reject them when they don't.)

In any case, the scientific evidence is that the rate and magnitude of current warming is anomalous and human-caused.

jack walter: The climate is always changing and always will

And people have always gotten sick, so why bother with sanitation?

#1.3.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-13 14:09 (Reply)

Europe needs to understand that the EU is a suicide pact.

#2 OneGuy on 2025-03-13 09:52 (Reply)

Asylum seekers out number the locals. Just like Los Angeles.

#3 B. Hammer on 2025-03-13 10:42 (Reply)

On EV's:

On my third Tesla. love love love these cars:
no maintenance (only 20 moving parts in drivetrain vs. something like 2,000 in gassy cars)
quiet, fast, clean air.
and fun.
a charge gives me about 350 mile range on my type 3.

#4 ns on 2025-03-13 12:32 (Reply)

Nothing 'clean' about the holes in the ground in poor countries that these cars need. And how is your nice, clean electricity generated?

#4.1 DeGaulle on 2025-03-13 14:08 (Reply)

re Michael Mann Sanctioned for False Testimony, Bad Faith

All well and fine but what good does that do for Mark Steyn?

#5 feeblemind on 2025-03-13 12:54 (Reply)

re Mann & lawyers sanctioned

Why don't the lawyers lose their licenses over this?

What good does this do Mark Steyn?

#6 feeblemind on 2025-03-13 12:56 (Reply)

Hiding the decline should carry penalties. Maybe Zeldin could name the EPA reorganization as the Steyn Standard.

#6.1 indyjonesouthere on 2025-03-13 13:50 (Reply)

They have exposed that a lot of what Biden was supposed to have signed while in office was AI signed without his knowledge. Well first we need to find out who did that and prosecute them. But second, are those documents, orders, laws even legal then or now?

#7 JustMe on 2025-03-13 13:28 (Reply)

The first link reminds me of Tom Lehrer: "He was studying animal husbandry until they caught him at it."

The Michael Mann link was mildly gratifying, but I echo feeblemind here. Though Steyn has children, and it is a great blessing to be vindicated before them. More to come, I hope.

#8 Assistant Village Idiot on 2025-03-13 14:00 (Reply)

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Thursday, March 13. 2025

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