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Looked to me like trump and vance pitched a tantrum. Zelensky was trying to explain what they don't seem to understand. Nor did Zelensky try to tell trump how to feel. It was clear to anyone with a brain that the US was protected by 3000 miles of ocean but if putin is allowed to win it may not be such a barrier after all.

#1 wiillful knowledge on 2025-03-01 09:35 (Reply)

As noted on a previous thread: Even a century ago, the United States couldn't stay out of global conflicts. Events in small countries that most Americans couldn't pick out on a map would impact their lives in profound ways. The world is much smaller now, countries even more interconnected, so the United States will continue to have a role to play in international affairs. And deterrence built on strong alliances is much cheaper in the long run than allowing aggressors free rein.

#1.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-01 10:43 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Saturday Miscellany ... Zelensky rejected the deal because it does not offer sufficient security guarantees. He had already been told that such guarantees, especially NATO membership, were not going to happen.

Then there can't be peace, because Russia has shown it will break the peace whenever they think they have an advantage, including engaging in gray warfare against democracies.

Despite what Trump says, Russia invaded Ukraine in violation of international law. Russia has committed atrocities against Ukrainians in captured territories, and they have historically brutalized Ukrainians, including in the Holodomor. Ukrainians are fighting for the lives, because defeat means death.

Trump is aligning the United States with an economically weak autocratic Russia, away from economically advanced democratic allies; while also gutting the American government internally. While America's relative power will inevitably wane as the rest of the world develops; rather than a graceful transition, Trump's actions risk a precipitous and calamitous collapse of the international order. As one scholar put it, it's the stupidest imperial collapse in history.

#1.2 Zachriel on 2025-03-01 11:00 (Reply)

Then there can't be peace, because Russia has shown it will break the peace whenever they think they have an advantage, including engaging in gray warfare against democracies.

Okay. Then the war goes on until their aren't enough Ukrainians left to fight. Works for me.

But they can do that without the help of our printed money.

Our national debt is a much bigger threat to US than what happens in Ukraine.

#1.2.1 feeblemind on 2025-03-01 11:48 (Reply)

feeblemind: Then the war goes on until their aren't enough Ukrainians left to fight.

Ukraine should be able to continue to fight as long as they have sufficient munitions. They have become masters of drone warfare. Frankly, they have no choice. It's either fight and die or kneel and die.

feeblemind: Our national debt is a much bigger threat to US than what happens in Ukraine.

That's what the American political right said when Hitler invaded Poland in September 1939. What could events in that insignificant country have to do with America?!

#1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-01 11:57 (Reply)

Oh, Hitler again. Thanks Quibble-DickZ.

#1.2.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2025-03-01 12:30 (Reply)

That's what the American political right said when Hitler invaded Poland in September 1939. What could events in that insignificant country have to do with America?

We may never have gone to war in Europe if Hitler not declared war on us.

Are you suggesting that Putin is going to declare war on the USA?? Because if you are not your analogy does not hold up.

#1.2.1.1.2 feeblemind on 2025-03-01 13:37 (Reply)

feeblemind: Are you suggesting that Putin is going to declare war on the USA?? Because if you are not your analogy does not hold up.

The point was that events in seemingly out of the way places can have a profound impact on the lives of Americans. By the way, the courage of the Ukrainians have already restrained Russia's aggressive tendencies. They have made Russia pay a high price for their bellicosity. Putin won't declare open war, but will continue to use gray warfare, while bullying smaller countries on their periphery.

#1.2.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-01 14:07 (Reply)

Putin speaks honestly for three hours at a time. You should try it. He has openly stated that most of Western Ukraine has more in common with Poland culturally and Warsaw makes more sense governing it. He wants no part of it. Ukrainian Nazi Sepan Bandera slaughtered 'inferior' Poles in brutal massacres. His statues are all over the place in Ukraine. I do understand the cruel Stalinist history in the region. But at some point you have to let it go. President Trump pointed out Zelenskyy's attitude. They have lost. But there is a damn way out but not if you won't sit down and talk about peace and prosperity. Security will follow unless unseen powers continue pushing...

#1.2.1.1.2.2 Lord Heathen on 2025-03-01 16:16 (Reply)

Lord Heathen: He has openly stated that most of Western Ukraine has more in common with Poland culturally and Warsaw makes more sense governing it.

That doesn't justify military invasion, breaking promises Putin had made. (See Hitler & Chamberland, "No more territorial demands to make in Europe," 1938.) Putin can't be trusted to keep the peace, and Russia has committed atrocities in Ukrainian territories they have captured. Security guarantees have to be provided to Ukraine for any lasting peace.

#1.2.1.1.2.2.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-02 08:09 (Reply)

And yet again, so sayeth the resident tribe liar!

#1.2.1.1.2.2.1.1 Mark Matis on 2025-03-02 08:59 (Reply)

It's a dog's breakfast on all sides for this issue and this thread.

Yes, Russia will sequentially attempt to bully, occupy and influence territories on its periphery. If a ceasefire were reached in the Ukraine, they would violate it when it served their purposes unless deterred by third parties. The irony is they have not attempted to do so when Trump was president. They have repeatedly done so when Obama and Biden were president. So the lion's share of the blame for Russia adopting that strategy lies with the political left, and not with Trump.

Given the realities of Russia's historical experiences (repeatedly being invaded from multiple directions) that behavior is not just understandable but not unreasonable. To the extent that the west has aggressively sought to pry Ukraine in an alliance with the west, the west bears at least a small part of the blame for the current situation.

#1.2.1.1.3 James on 2025-03-02 13:55 (Reply)

That's what the American political right said when Hitler invaded Poland in September 1939. What could events in that insignificant country have to do with America?!

The inflammatory abuse of historical analogies really is the mark of a second- or third-rate mind. But thanks for bringing it up. Yes, France and the UK, acting in concert, could have very easily ended Hitler's military aggression at multiple points pre-1939, and even after the invasion of Poland. Just as Europe could stop Russia now without use of American military power.

The isolationist current ran fairly strong in both the right and left in both the USA and the UK. In the US, it was stronger on the left than the right. That was possibly reversed in the UK. What is undoubtably true is that in the USA, progressives were much more likely to be apologists for the Nazis than conservatives were.

#1.2.1.1.4 James on 2025-03-02 14:33 (Reply)

James: If a ceasefire were reached in the Ukraine, they would violate it when it served their purposes unless deterred by third parties.

Which is why Ukraine is seeking security guarantees.

James: The irony is they have not attempted to do so when Trump was president.

In fact, thousands of Russian troops occupied Ukrainian territory throughout the Trump administration, launching repeated attacks on Ukrainian forces.

James: The inflammatory abuse of historical analogies really is the mark of a second- or third-rate mind.

It's not an analogy, but an example of how events in seemingly remote places can have outsized effects.

#1.2.1.1.5 Zachriel on 2025-03-03 07:05 (Reply)

So sayeth the resident tribe liar.
Zelensky is used to Europe (including Britain) which is run by the Rothschilds.
He thought he could get away with same in the US!

#1.2.2 Mark Matis on 2025-03-01 13:53 (Reply)

"Trump is aligning the United States with an economically weak autocratic Russia." No he isn't. He is moving towards neutrality while still offering all sides an economic carrot for ending the conflict. While offering a level of economic integration for Ukraine that would serve as a deterrent against future Russian aggression.

Which really is the only sensible alternative to a continued war. Russia has already suffered a strategic defeat that it cannot recover from. Ukraine has suffered an operational defeat which can only get worse and possibly turn into a strategic defeat.

Allowing Putin a marginal saving of face so they he can plausibly hope to preserve his domestic power and ensure his personal survival is essential to succeeding.

Trump offered Ukraine the best attainable outcome they could hope for. They appear to be rejecting it in hopes of achieving an unattainable better outcome. In this, Ukraine, Most European leaders, and American progressives like yourself are idiots. Trump really is, in many ways, a much better leader than the country could ever hope for. And you attempting to shoehorn a defense of the bureaucracy into your comments really does prove your position is about politics, not principles.

#1.2.3 James on 2025-03-02 14:20 (Reply)

James: He is moving towards neutrality while still offering all sides an economic carrot for ending the conflict.

That isn't consistent with Trump claiming that Zelensky is a dictator and that he "should have never started" the war; and that Trump would have an end to the war leaving Ukraine defenseless against future Russian aggression. That's not neutrality: It's handing Ukraine over the Russia.

James: While offering a level of economic integration for Ukraine that would serve as a deterrent against future Russian aggression.

The mineral deal will do nothing to deter Putin. It will be years, maybe decades, for that to have traction, if at all.

James: Russia has already suffered a strategic defeat that it cannot recover from.

Thanks to Ukraine bearing the brunt of Russian aggression, and defending the democratic world's flank.

#1.2.3.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-03 07:19 (Reply)

Putin has no interest in anything west of the Dnieper river from the very beginning. It's majority Russian and most speak Russian there. Ukraine thought they could persecute and murder them and the Russians would just sit there and take it. Putin hasn't even made a move towards Odessa or Kyiv for that matter and there's never been anything stopping them from going all in and doing that. Don't even get me started on NATO building a proxy army not far from Moscow. I don't care if you think I'm some sort of Putin apologist. There is history to this preventable conflict and there's plenty of blame to go around. For Zelensky to sit there with his fingers in his ears with over a million of his citizens dead and more wounded or displaced tells me all I need to know about him. He needs to go. If President Trump learned one thing from that encounter that's it.

#1.3 Lord Heathen on 2025-03-01 11:04 (Reply)

Lord Heathen: Putin has no interest in anything west of the Dnieper river from the very beginning... Putin hasn't even made a move towards Odessa or Kyiv for that matter and there's never been anything stopping them from going all in and doing that.

Oh, gee whiz.

#1.3.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-01 11:12 (Reply)

The West, especially the US via Sec. State James Baker in 1990, had promised Russia that NATO would not expand “one inch eastward.” Those promises were broken - with notable support from Biden since then.

There’s not just one side to the story.

#1.3.1.1 mudbug on 2025-03-01 11:48 (Reply)

mudbug: The West, especially the US via Sec. State James Baker in 1990, had promised Russia that NATO would not expand “one inch eastward.”

Gorbachev says it never happened. Regardless, it wasn't part of any written agreement which would have precedence over anything said before.

mudbug: There’s not just one side to the story.

Sure. But just keep repeating Russian propaganda.

#1.3.1.2 Zachriel on 2025-03-01 11:53 (Reply)

Oh, it's Russian propaganda now. Huh, Quibble-DickZ????
Earlier it was right wing American/Hitlerian propaganda y'all were quibbling about.

#1.3.1.2.1 Zachinoff on 2025-03-01 12:40 (Reply)

No matter what you say, you've lost.

#1.3.1.3 DeGaulle on 2025-03-01 12:56 (Reply)

You're an actual miracle. I tend to ignore you but I've never communicated with anyone, perhaps any THING in this case that I can't find ANY common ground with. You just take up the contrary position every single time. Economics, politics, war, climate, etc.. You're the digital version of "blah, blah, blah.' Kind of like Zelenskyy sitting in the Oval Office with his arms folded wearing his combat pajamas. It's not just silly, it's pathetic.

#1.3.1.4 Lord Heathen on 2025-03-01 15:39 (Reply)

Lord Heathen: in this case that I can't find ANY common ground with.

We share a belief in finding common ground. Perhaps we share a belief that truths are better than falsehoods; that arguments based on inveracity are unfounded.

In this case, you based your position on Putin having never "made a move" towards Kyiv, which was patently false. One might suppose this would cause you to reevaluate your position; however, humans are not rational creatures, but rationalizing ones.

#1.3.1.4.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-02 07:54 (Reply)

Not only did Russia attempt an advance on Kiev in the initial phase of the invasion, they landed troops at the airport in Kiev.

Further, if they have no interest in anything beyond the Dnieper, it is difficult to explain the presence of Russian troops in Moldovia. Nor are their explicit threats against the Baltic republics, Finland, Poland and even Sweden consistent with your claim.

Getting to the Dnieper by itself has little value if the do not also get to the Vistula.

#1.3.2 James on 2025-03-02 13:12 (Reply)

Aside from their nuclear armed ballistic missiles, which honestly are of dubious functionality, Russia is not a threat to the USA regardless of the outcome of the current conflict. They are dying demographically. The war has cost them hundreds of thousands of deaths and casualties and caused about a million younger adults to flee the country. Most of whom were the better educated and skilled.

The current war which Putin said would be over in a few days to a few weeks is now in its fourth year. Russia has netted less than 20% of Ukraine in those three plus years. It has exhausted its manpower and military equipment and suffered great economic decline. IOW, the war is hastening the demise of Russia as a country and an ethnicity.

Zelensky, not Trump or Vance is who threw of fit. And was the one who needed something. People like you who are defending him are either liars or idiots.

#1.4 James on 2025-03-02 13:28 (Reply)

James: Russia is not a threat to the USA regardless of the outcome of the current conflict.

American security and prosperity is bound up with the stability of the international community. Unchecked aggression is a threat to that stability—even more so than in the 1930s, when, even then, America couldn't isolate itself from the troubles of the world. Stability in eastern Europe and the spread of western values is to America's benefit.

James: Zelensky, not Trump or Vance is who threw of fit.

If you mean he wouldn't sit there and listen to their lies without trying to educate them, then, yeah. Everyone must kowtow to Caesar, not matter how crazy he sounds.

#1.4.1 Zachriel on 2025-03-03 07:32 (Reply)

New Sheriff in Town

#2 Zachinoff on 2025-03-01 11:34 (Reply)

NancyBoi may be right about Zelensky. He will soon be irrelevant, anyway, and the deal can be rectified when Ukraine has an opportunity to hold a legitimate election.

Putin might even agree to a cease fire arrangement while Ukraine conducts civil business and Zelensky is rendered into an obscure ordinary subsistence level of living... by his own means.

#3 Tallywhagger on 2025-03-01 12:13 (Reply)

But is Zelensky on the hook for any funding to the Clintons?
Sure would be a shame if he had to deal with the "friends of Bill".

#3.1 Mark Matis on 2025-03-01 13:55 (Reply)

Ukraine MP's are already talking about impeaching Zelensky. Zelensky went into the Trump meeting after a pep rally from the usual Euro weenies and the old Obama admin neocons such as Nuland, Rice and the old IC NWO freak show. They actually think they can bluff Trump.

Trumps next move... start removing troops, aircraft and ships from the Europe and UK NWO mandarins. Send no more aid to Ukraine or Europe and remove equipment from Europe. A return to the Monroe doctrine. Tough shit morons. And don't forget the upcoming tariffs.

#4 indyjonesouthere on 2025-03-01 18:04 (Reply)

Hard to build a jet engine... temperature X rpm x maintenance= operating cost

#5 indyjonesouthere on 2025-03-01 18:40 (Reply)

Saturday Miscellany... all 9 items provide more information than the entire MSM narratives.

#6 indyjonesouthere on 2025-03-01 19:08 (Reply)

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