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Friday, December 13. 2024

Populists aren't ideologues

These Brits "center-left" recognize that Trump's election is a relief:




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We had thought the media was hyperbolic, was exaggerating, but then we saw Trump's Madison Square rally. There were multiple cheers for Israel. There was a great variety of people in the crowd: whites, blacks, latinos, jews. Conclusion: The media was not exaggerating, but lying. (Recall that the media compared Trump's Madison Square rally to a Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939.

It was difficult to figure out what Kamala Harris's policy proposals were. She was a poor candidate. Who would follow Kamala Harris? I wouldn't follow her into an effing coffee shop.

We need a President who is not openly contemptuous of his fellow Americans: garbage, fascist, deplorable...

Europe needs honest conversations about the (stagnating) economy and Islamism.

Republicans were optimistic. Democrats were pessimistic.

Those who voted for Trump, in a country of tremendous variety, were tired of identity politics.

UK Foreign Minister David Lammy, who called Trump a Nazi and after he was elected called that “old news,” is a clown. Trump should make him wait for two days to meet him, and upon meeting him, present Lammy with a list of all he had said about Trump.
#1 Gringo on 2024-12-13 23:27 (Reply)
As a Brit, I second Gringo's suggestion.
There are a lot of quiet Trump supporters in the UK.
Still quiet because we get attacked viciously if we say anything positive about him in the wrong company.
We just threw out our version of the RINOs and are suffering under the ghastly Labour alternative. Maybe in a few years we can follow in America's footsteps.
I desperately hope so.
#2 Clovis Sangrail on 2024-12-14 08:38 (Reply)
The video's mention of Labour Foreign Minister David Lammy's calling "old news" his previous hyperbolic rhetoric about Trump reminded me of a video about Steven Pineless, a Trump-hating Labour minister, that went viral last month. IIRC, it also was on Maggie’s Farm, but I am not going to spend the time to verify that. I didn’t initially realize it was a satire, but when a search for Steven Pineless as MP or Labour minister turned out empty, I realized it was satire. I didn’t realize how closely the satire mirrored reality.
Satirical Labour minister explains historical Trump tweets[b].
QUOTE:
Comedian Michael Spicer has put out a sketch impersonating a Labour minister whose past tweets about Donald Trump have come back to haunt him to hilarious comedic effect.

Several members of Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour government denounced the president-elect before the party was returned to power in July.

These include Foreign Secretary David Lammy, who called him a “Nazi sympathiser” in 2017 when he was a backbench MP.

Health secretary Wes Streeting posted in the same year: “Trump is such an odious, sad, little man. Imagine being proud to have that as your President”.

While in 2016, Ed Miliband described Trump as a “racist, misogynistic, self-confessed groper”.

[b] UK minister grilled over tweet branding Donald Trump a ‘self-confessed groper’
QUOTE:
Host Jon Kay asked Miliband: “How do you build a relationship with a man who you described in the past as a racist, misogynistic, self-confessed groper?”

Speaking from the COP29 climate summit in Azerbaijan, Miliband shrugged off his 2016 post, and replied: “Look, you know, I said things in the past. My job now, as a government minister, is to work with the new U.S. administration.”

The former Labour leader added: “Donald Trump’s done lots of tweets in his time as well. I think what he will be interested in is serving a mandate from the American people.

“What we’re interested in is serving the mandate from the British people, and the British people have elected us to drive forward with this clean energy transition.”

Asked whether he would have sent those posts had he known he’d one day be dealing with a Trump administration on climate, Miliband replied: “Honestly, I think they’re irrelevant.
“I genuinely don’t think that Donald Trump is reading my tweets. I don’t have such a high opinion of myself.”


[b]What David Lammy said about Donald Trump and why he has backtracked [b]
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Foreign secretary David Lammy has dismissed comments he made about Donald Trump previously as "old news"…..

In 2017, Lammy called Trump a “racist and KKK/neo-Nazi sympathiser”. A year later, the Tottenham MP wrote in Time magazine that he would be protesting against the then-government’s “capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee”, in reference to Trump’s first official visit to the UK.
“Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathising sociopath,” Lammy wrote, “he is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long.”

Trump’s mantra of “make America great again” was also criticised by Lammy in 2019. At the time, Lammy appeared to compare Trump to Hitler in his use of the phrase.

He wrote on X: “Hitler said the same about Germany in a speech in February 1940. In fact he said it on numerous occasions. It was cover for the most detestable human acts. We see you Mr Trump.”


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#3 Passthrough on 2024-12-14 13:58 (Reply)

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