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Attacking Iran's oil fields could actually be more disastrous than attacking their nukes, globally speaking.
You remember the Central Park Five? By all the evidence and their own words they were guilty. But a left wing activist group made up talking points and a movie to cast doubt on their guilt and got them released. They were guilty, the confessed and implicated the others and the courts found them guilty. It's bad enough that they are out walking around among us but they and the left keep claiming that not only where they innocent but that the courts were racist to convict them. This is what the left does it will get worse. They put innocent J6 protestors in jail and let out guilty gang members because of their race.
OneGuy: By all the evidence and their own words they were guilty.
More than a decade after the attack, a serial rapist, Matias Reyes, confessed, confirmed by DNA evidence. The victim, Trisha Meili, still runs. "James Carville: Trump Is Telling You He's a Fascist, "We're Not Making This Up"
This is what Democrats do. They blame the Republicans for what they themselves do. This is what Marxists and Communists always do. Marx himself instructs his followers to do so: "Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion." Karl Marx Fascism is just another form of socialism/Marxism. It is inherently a left wing agenda. Marxism, socialism, fascism all lead to communism. It uses disruption, division and chaos to win and once it is implemented you cannot go back. They use force, disappearing, lawfare and stealing elections to maintain power. The single biggest threat to socialism/fascism/communism is private ownership or guns. That is why the Democrats hate the 2nd amendment. Once they take your guns they can kill you with impunity. OneGuy: Marx himself instructs his followers to do so: "Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion."
No, Marx never said that. OneGuy: James Carville: Trump Is Telling You He's a Fascist Trump has said he would be dictator on day one, would terminate the Constitution, and would use the military against his domestic enemies. OneGuy: Fascism is just another form of socialism/Marxism. It is inherently a left wing agenda. Fascism is inherently right wing, advocating for a strictly hierarchical society, ultranationalism, and pointing to subversive elements within the nation to justify draconian measures. All societies are hierarchical, especially the communist ones. Fascists are national and communists are international, but the person standing in the bread line doesn't see much difference. Neither does the person sitting in the palace.
The right/left concept is European and doesn't apply to our country. Progressives are American fascists and they come from both parties. It's funny how you (greedy malcontents) implicitly show your hand when you go on your favorite rant about fascists. I don't think anyone here is interested in hearing you defend your preference of utopia. jack walter: All societies are hierarchical
Of course. No society has perfect equality. However, the goal of communism is to bring about a society of perfect economic and social equality, ending war which is seen as due to class conflict. The goal of fascism is a strictly hierarchical society with the struggle between ethnic nations not only inevitable, but as giving meaning to the nation and the people. jack walter: I don't think anyone here is interested in hearing you defend your preference of utopia. We reject utopianism as unattainable. When combined with extremism (the belief that the ends justify the means), it has led to untold human misery. Wrong. Communism has two primary goals that are, by nature, contradictory. For the ruling class it is a means for acquiring, concentrating, and securing power. On the other hand, it is also a means for the malcontent to get what they feel they deserve. This class doesn't last much longer than the revolution, at which point they join the peasant class.
Do you really care if Fascism is recognized as a form of socialism or not? It's national, rather than international. That's the big difference. Again, the left/right wing model doesn't apply to American politics. That's a European concept. There is no such thing as a "right wing" in America. That's a Marxist term that is used for convenience, much like the term "working class". We have Traditional Constitutionalists and we have Progressive Fascists. That is the binary choice you have in modern America. I should say, the closest we have to a Right Wing in America were the loyalists during the Revolutionary War. The European concept of right wing has its roots in monarchy. That's what the right wing is, and that's why we don't have one.
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jack walter
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2024-10-16 13:29
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jack walter: Communism has two primary goals that are, by nature, contradictory…
The final goal of communism is a classless society, the state withering away, leaving perfect social and economic equality. See Marx (1876). jack walter: Again, the left/right wing model doesn't apply to American politics. Of course it does. The terms are in frequent use to refer to American politics, such as Unite the Right or "We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics... And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or really necessary by the military”.
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Zachriel
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2024-10-16 20:13
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Fascism, like marxism, is authoritarian socialism which you seem completely unable to understand. They seem to compete with each other over who can be the most socialist. Marxists win that contest as they want to run everything and run it poorly. Fascist are content to let 'connected' brethren run a business as long as they serve the governments wishes as the 'connected' have at least some competence in running a going venture.
ending war due to class conflict... yea, right. Thats why the USSR and communist China have fought border wars and why communist China keeps harassing its neighbors by taking over the neighbors islands for military and boundary issues. And of course, those are not "ultranationalist". You are still consuming too many utopiates. The left has been trying for decades to convince people that Fascism is right wing. Fascism, as it was originally in the 20's and 30's, is a version of socialism where the government doesn't physically take over all the companies but instead they use armed men and force to make the actual owners toe the socialist line. Socialism by another name is still a left wing philosophy. Fascism is just socialism by force.
OneGuy: The left has been trying for decades to convince people that Fascism is right wing.
Fascism has been considered a right-wing movement, then and now, by scholars and by laypersons. Consider that modern-day neo-fascists are considered on political right. It’s only recently that there has been a movement to recast fascism as being on the political left. Please reread our previous comment on hierarchicalism vs. egalitarianism. Fascism fits how people use the term right wing. Only by French parliamentarians. The French keep wandering back and forth over being marxist like Mitterrand or being fascist like the Vichy French and most of the current crop of authoritarians.
In the US it is authoritarian marxist academics and politicians that prefer the left/right split pretending that they aren't dirty at both ends of authoritarian socialism.
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indyjonesouthere
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2024-10-15 19:48
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Antifa are the modern day neo-fascist and they ain't on the right. "Fascism is a slur and the left has tried to distance themselves from Fascism just as they try to distance themselves from the KKK or the American communist party or socialism. But fascism is a form or socialism and socialism is a left wing wet dream. You can lie and deny but it just makes you look weird.
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OneGuy
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2024-10-15 23:41
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OneGuy: Antifa are the modern day neo-fascist and they ain't on the right
Antifa certainly “ain’t on the right”, but are generally anarchists, which is a far-cry from fascism. They are anti-fascist. OneGuy: Fascism is a slur and the left has tried to distance themselves from Fascism just as they try to distance themselves from the KKK or the American communist party or socialism. The KKK is on the political right, communists on the left. Those who supported segregation were opposed to liberalism on the left. Note that the image from above was from the Unite the Right rally in Chalottesville. Everyone places them on the political right as they advocate for a more hierarchical society, such as white supremacy.
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Zachriel
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2024-10-16 06:27
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Gee Zach, except for the "ultranationalism" part, your definition of fascism describes the Democrats of the past 16 years perfectly!
Talnik: your definition of fascism describes the Democrats of the past 16 years
The Democratic Party is made up of a very diverse coalition, so it doesn’t necessarily fit neatly into the left-right dichotomy; however, Democrats generally support pro-egalitarian policies, such as strengthening social security, expanding access to health care coverage, advancing historically disadvantaged groups such as people of color, offering asylum to migrants fleeing persecution, taxing the rich including the estate tax to reduce entrenched intergenerational wealth, etc. The Democratic party has become little more than a coalition of parasite minorities ranging from the ruling elite to the illegal alien with plenty of minority riff raff in between. So gay and so 'enlightened".
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