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The biggest risk to Salmon on the Snake River are seals and Indian laws that make no sense. Control the seals at the mouth of our rivers and make wildlife laws applicable for all citizens and the Salmon population will double. It would be a lot cheaper than taking out dams and make more sense.

#1 OneGuy on 2024-09-06 09:56 (Reply)

I think that since the Indians don't want hydropower, their electricity should be shut off.

#1.1 feeblemind on 2024-09-06 10:14 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Nez Perce Solar Power: Honor the 1855 Treaty with Nez Perce.

#1.1.1 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 10:42 (Reply)

Now get those EV's to hit the road in the winter, burn wood for home heating and get that garden growing, canned goods are out. The Rez is not sustainable unless they revert to 1700 lifestyle. Do notice they are 'importing' their sustainability.

#1.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-06 12:40 (Reply)

All American Indians got full citizenship June 2, 1924 effectively negating all previous treaties.

#1.1.1.2 OneGuy on 2024-09-06 14:53 (Reply)

OneGuy: All American Indians got full citizenship June 2, 1924 effectively negating all previous treaties.

Granting citizenship did not negate treaties; otherwise, tribal lands would have ceased to exist, which is not the case. The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 specifically provides that it does not affect the right to tribal property, which would include treaty provisions. The era of making treaties with individual tribes ended with the Indian Appropriations Act of 1871, but it stipulated that existing treaty obligations were not invalidated.

#1.1.1.3 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 15:40 (Reply)

"Granting citizenship did not negate treaties; otherwise, tribal lands would have ceased to exist,"

You are a comedian. Tribal lands exist because no wants to touch the status quo AND because Indians live off the government and thus vote for the government. The Indians on tribal lands are the new slaves on plantations. We should free them, give them their land deeded and let them live in the 21st century.

I'm reminded of the phone tax implemented during WW II to help pay for the war. Did they get rid of it when the war ended??? Because otherwise the tax wouldn't exist. NO, the government never gets rid of anything. Free the Indians!!

The treaties were based on issues and situations that no longer exist and the act to make them all citizens did indeed negate the treaties. Today the treaties are the equivalent of paying alimony to a divorced wife who has since married a millionaire and won the lottery while the ex works two jobs just to survive.

#1.1.1.3.1 OneGuy on 2024-09-07 09:49 (Reply)

OneGuy: Tribal lands exist because no wants to touch the status quo

In other words, you were wrong when you said previous treaties were negated. Indians still have lands provided by treaty. Please note the language of the Indian Appropriations Act and the Indian Citizenship Act.

OneGuy: We should free them, give them their land deeded and let them live in the 21st century.

Meanwhile: Nez Perce Solar Power.

#1.1.1.3.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-07 10:08 (Reply)

OneGuy: Today the treaties are the equivalent of paying alimony to a divorced wife who has since married a millionaire and won the lottery while the ex works two jobs just to survive.

The median household income of American Indian and Alaska Natives is about 2/3 of the national average, much less for those living on reservations.

#1.1.1.3.3 Zachriel on 2024-09-07 10:24 (Reply)

Typically in these "surveys" welfare isn't counted. Most Indians living on a reservation get a monthly check from the government and they get it from birth till death. Also, Indians on reservations don't pay federal taxes, all their health care is free, virtually everything is free.

#1.1.1.3.3.1 OneGuy on 2024-09-07 17:11 (Reply)

OneGuy: Typically in these "surveys" welfare isn't counted.

So, not quite "married a millionaire and won the lottery". You didn't provide specifics. TANF (welfare) has the same requirements for Native Americans as for other Americans. The Bureau of Indian Affairs entire budget is less than $2,000 per year per Native American.

#1.1.1.3.3.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-08 07:48 (Reply)

If you look at the CW amendment granting 'citizen of the United States' to the Negro population in the US, you will find the discussion of citizenship clearly excluded granting citizenship to the Indians. It requires an amendment to grant citizenship to Indians. There has never been one and they have never been citizens. Simple legislation cannot grant citizenship, the Congress just got lazy and did the shortcut.

#1.1.1.4 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-06 17:18 (Reply)

I agree. Life is choices and fish are more important than electricity.

#1.1.2 annieoakley on 2024-09-06 20:25 (Reply)

The whole Columbia River system has been totally compromised since the Grand Coulee Dam was built in the late 1930s. Before then, the salmon run extended up into southern British Columbia. The whole river system, particularly in the US, is heavily dammed so this concern about the Snake River dam seems too little and too late.

#1.2 Frances on 2024-09-06 23:10 (Reply)

No the salmon did not extend every year into Canada. Kettle Falls prevented that. That was why the tribes built extensive platforms to harvest salmon with harpoon or really lances that were twenty feet long.

The desire to tear out dams is a green wet dream with little to no real benefit for fish runs. Often the gain in spawning grounds can be measured in single digits in miles of spawning grounds. This is pushed by the same people who tried to manage the natural replacement of the spotted owl by the barred owl by banning logging, which did nothing except stopping logging their real goal.

Now for zach our demon princeling, since I have been involved in tribal law directly and you have not. I'll explain how it works. The treaties matter when the tribes want them to matter. The are simply ignored otherwise unless someone forces them to. How do they count salmon run percentage (which determines how much tribal members can fish)? By price, when the price of salmon goes down, they numerical percentage is reached. I used to enforce these laws, so I have direct experience. Anything you say is either squid ink or an outright lie.

It's the same with the dams. It's a power play to either screw with the whiteman or get more money or both. They as a group care nothing for the salmon runs except for the money involved. I've watched pallet loads of salmon deliberately dumped in front of tribal offices to rot in order to force the price up.

I was physically in the rooms and involved in the discussions regarding both the owls and the dams, also reintroducing the wolf and grizzly, but that's a different topic for the day. Same reasoning and motives, but you'd pretend to misunderstand that as well.

No, I'm not doxing myself on this so you can save follow-up questions. Look into it yourself or don't. But do not listen to the official accounts or you'll remain toxic and misinformed. But then that's your go to.

For other possible readers if you've gotten this far please excuse the vitriol. I hate liars and their father.

#1.2.1 TWS on 2024-09-07 12:41 (Reply)

TWS: The treaties matter when the tribes want them to matter.

Thank you for anecdotally supporting our point while contradicting the claim that treaties were negated by the Indian Citizenship Act. That you may have a dispute about whether the fence your neighbor built is on your side of the property line or not is due to their being property rights to be disputed.

#1.2.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-07 12:54 (Reply)

That's not what I said or even intimated. The treaties are as dead as Yellowwolf. The tribes pull them out to back whatever they want them to even when the clear writing of the treaty is opposite of what they're arguing indeed I've watched them use a treaty to argue two different mutually contradictory points. In other words, to avoid you twisting the clear meaning of my words, the treaties are dead.

They literally mean nothing real, true, or timeless. Legally they have no enforcement, the State and federal courts pay attention to them when and how it supports their cause de jour. Now if you're a tribal member, tribal law (which is NOT the same as the treaties) does in some usually unfortunate ways apply to you. Since you're not a tm, only the federal and state laws that get propped up like weekends at Brandon's by activists will ever affect you. I've watched you get booted from so many sites, why do you really bother? And the 'we' is a bigger tell than you realize. How many of you are 'Zachriel'? Are you down to a couple bored graduate students?

#1.2.2.1 TWS on 2024-09-07 15:14 (Reply)

TWS: That's not what I said or even intimated.

And yet, that's what you did.

TWS: The tribes pull them out to back whatever they want them to even when the clear writing of the treaty is opposite of what they're arguing indeed I've watched them use a treaty to argue two different mutually contradictory points.

Happens all the time in property disputes.

TWS: the treaties are dead.

Indian tribes have successfully sued to enforce treaty provisions. For instance, in McGirt v. Oklahoma (2020), the Supreme Court found that land set aside for the Creek Nation under an 1856 treaty was still the recognized tribal boundary, and therefore not under state jurisdiction. So, not dead.

#1.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-07 15:30 (Reply)

re UK To “Ration” Petrol Powered Vehicles

After 2030, this could be US.

#2 feeblemind on 2024-09-06 10:15 (Reply)

Not enough information yet about the school shooters father to make a fair determination of wrongdoing. My gut feeling is that if the FBI had definitive information proving the father specifically broke the law that they would have released it. I don't think this is about justice or right or wrong, I think it is about anti-2nd amendment lawfare. The left doesn't like the 2nd amendment and they will use any trick to nullify it.

The boy clearly has some mental issues. What are the odds that he is taking prescribed mind altering drugs. If he is should the doctor face 2nd degree manslaughter charges. Sometimes kitchen knives are used by children to assault or even murder people and I have never heard of a mother being charged with 2nd degree murder for leaving the knives in a kitchen drawer where the child could get them. Same is true about deaths by motor vehicles. Parents make their cars available to their children and sometimes these children kill people with those cars. Where are the charges???

How about when an illegal alien kills someone BUT the illegal was caught at the border and held but released by a judge or by border patrol. Where are the 2nd degree murder charges for the judge???

If the father was legally complicit in the shooting I support the charges against him. If the boy is on drugs I demand charges against the doctor. If the FBI or the local police knew he was a threat I support 2nd degree murder charges against them as well. Why not? Unless this is ONLY about targeting the 2nd amendment.

Statistically you are 8 times more likely to be killed by a youth driving while texting than you are to be killed by anyone with a rifle. But they go after the rifle.

#3 Anon on 2024-09-06 10:24 (Reply)

So a 14 YO boy can decide to become a girl, the school is required by law to keep this from the parents and the child is considered old enough to make this life changing decision. But a 14 YO boy who decides to shoot up the school and kills and injures others the father must go to jail for life? Did I get that right? Let's put teachers and school board members in jail for life if they transition a child to another gender and hide that from the parents.

#3.1 JustMe on 2024-09-06 15:08 (Reply)

I'm really wanting to see the stats of what anti-depressant or other drugs the school shooters are on. Even starting back with the Columbine massacre, any hint that such things might be an issue have been pushed out of the narrative.

Correlation may not be causation - but if you ain't lookin' you'll never find it.

#3.2 JLawson (Link) on 2024-09-06 15:30 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Dawkins: Race Is a Spectrum. Sex Is Pretty Damn Binary.

Chromosomal sex is largely, but not perfectly, binary. However, Dawkins ignores how physical and mental development affects sexual and gender identity, just as he minimizes the social aspects of race.

QUOTE:

Changing your “race” should be even easier if you adopt the fashionable doctrine that race is a “social construct” with no biological reality.

Actually, social construction is an accurate cultural and historical phenomenon, such as the "one drop rule", and why Benjamin Franklin considered Swedes to be too swarthy to be "White People".

QUOTE:

Darwin: I crossed the Painted Lady and Purple sweetpeas, which are very differently coloured varieties, and got, even out of the same pod, both varieties perfect but none intermediate.

The story of Darwin and sweetpeas, prefiguring Mendel's own experiments with sweetpeas, is achingly piquant. So close! Darwin had a copy of Mendel's study on his bookshelf, the pages of the book uncut (unread).

#4 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 10:28 (Reply)

"Her explanation, in Conundrum, of how she always felt like a woman trapped in a man’s body is eloquent and moving." Begs the question how HE knew what a woman felt like.

#5 willful knowledge on 2024-09-06 10:58 (Reply)

willfulknowledge: Begs the question how HE knew what a woman felt like.

In most cases, because of exposure to conventional female and male role models.

QUOTE:

Dawkins: The reason inheritance often seems to be blending—the reason we seem to be a mixture of paternal with maternal, and the reason racial intermarriage leads to a spectrum of intermediates—is polygenes.

And sexual development, as opposed to chromosomal sex, is the result of the interplay of many different genes, as well as environmental factors.

#5.1 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 11:13 (Reply)

Z: In most cases, because of exposure to conventional female and male role models.

Correct! This whole tranny business is based on what someone perceives as social norms for males and females. Boys who like pink and frilly clothes are told they are probably girls underneath because boys aren't supposed to like that sort of thing.

Nobody can define what it feels like to be a man (not even a man) or a woman (not even a woman) so when someone says they feel like a man or woman, they don't know what they're talking about. Thus we have people like Dylan Mulvaney who act like characatures of women - if they even go to the trouble.

#5.1.1 mudbug on 2024-09-06 12:27 (Reply)

The onset of puberty generally sorts out the confusion some children experience about their gender identity. This is why these monsters want to push puberty blockers on them before that can happen of course.

#5.1.1.1 Lord Heathen on 2024-09-06 13:04 (Reply)

Lord Heathen: The onset of puberty generally sorts out the confusion some children experience about their gender identity.

In many but not all cases, that is certainly the outcome. Generally, people should try to be happy in their own skins, regardless of gender identity. And doctors and parents should be especially cautious with children. But "generally" doesn't apply to all cases.

#5.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 13:11 (Reply)

mudbug: This whole tranny business is based on what someone perceives as social norms for males and females.

You should avoid overgeneralization. Take someone who has XY chromosomes, but born with female genitalia (androgen insensitivity). Are they male or female? Does it matter what they think or feel? There is a great deal of variations in hormones, as well, which can be expressed in gender identity.

Gender expression in humans varies widely. For instance, there have always been effeminate cisgender males and masculine cisgender females. Some people identify with their cisgender identity, but some do not. For generations, such people have been denigrated and bullied, but people today are less willing to tolerate it. Sorry their existence disturbs you.

#5.1.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 13:00 (Reply)

You are little more than the local marxist trashtalker. See Gramsci, Horkheimer, Marcuse, and last but not least, James Lindsay. Race/gender/race/gender/race/gender and add a touch of AGW for seasoning.

#5.1.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-06 13:13 (Reply)

When you mandate that the exceptional cases must determine the rule, that will skew any perceptions of the actual situation.

#5.1.2.2 JLawson (Link) on 2024-09-06 15:34 (Reply)

JLawson: When you mandate that the exceptional cases must determine the rule, that will skew any perceptions of the actual situation.

That is not our position. Our position is that exceptions do exist, that the differences are real, and that people who are different still have the same rights as other people.

#5.1.2.3 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 15:46 (Reply)

'YOUR' position matters not. The exceptions determine the rule. The rights of those who fall under those exceptions must be greater than those of the norm, precisely because they're so rare.

#5.1.2.3.1 JLawson (Link) on 2024-09-06 16:23 (Reply)

JLawson: The exceptions determine the rule.

What “rule” is that? From the third clause of our comment: that people who are different have the same rights as other people? This was based on what we consider to be the inherent dignity of a person. Perhaps you have different values. For ourselves, we’re rather fond of the human creatures. Consider it a peccadillo, if you like.

(The first two clauses of our comment were descriptive.)

#5.1.2.3.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 20:39 (Reply)

Duh. Your insistence that a person with a y chromosome and high testosterone levels has to be admitted to female bathrooms, dressing rooms and allowed to beat biological women would be one good example.

#5.1.2.3.2.1 James4HJ on 2024-09-06 21:52 (Reply)

James4HJ: allowed to beat biological women would be one good example.

Where did we say that someone with a y-chromosome should compete against those without the y-chromosome? The problem occurs because sports segregation is binary, but sex and gender are not strictly binary. Our objection is to those who deny the very existence of people who do not conform to norms in terms of sex and gender, and to those who vilify such people.

#5.1.2.3.2.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-06 22:19 (Reply)

Kamala, the "new economic order," the green new deal and, yes, all-encompassing censorship. Yes, she is the vector of all these ailments, and more.
If I may make a recommendation...
There is a book called One Hundred Miracles, by Wendy Holden, about the famed Jewish Czechoslovak harpsichordist Zuzana Růžičková. It is a story of Zuzana's life, obviously, but a life that was severely affected by the two major forms of 20th century socialism - National Socialism from Berlin and what you might call international socialism from Moscow. Zuzana does not hesitate to provide great detail about life under both these dispensations, as opposed to Czechoslovakia's democratic "First Republic" (1918-1938), and Wendy Holden sets it all down faithfully.
You want to know about life under Kamala? The eminently readable One Hundred Miracles will give you valuable insight.

#6 Michael on 2024-09-06 11:04 (Reply)

Long time Fed here. In my career, for both telework and OT, I kept a log documenting everything, and I do mean everything I did on those days. Very inexpensive insurance policy in case anyone questioned what I did on those days, although I suspect I am an extreme outlier on this. I have never been accused of work fraud but nowadays you never know.

#7 dcjuggler on 2024-09-06 12:27 (Reply)

geothermal: the new Google center (very fascinating) is , I believe, all heated/cooled by geothermal.

#8 ns on 2024-09-06 12:38 (Reply)

Thankful they didn't pick Shapiro... picking a religious Jew was never a choice in the Obama (I will stand with Islam) administrations right up to the present time and candidate.

Volkswagens choice... like most German companies, they will only survive if they abandon Germany. Socialism is not sustainable in a multi-culty world or in a 'green' environment.

Harris campaign spokesman.... they have no clue about the future either or they would be addressing it during the current term.

#9 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-06 13:02 (Reply)

I can't be the only one that takes a quick look at the bottom of every post and then if I see 'Zachriel' I just move on to the next. It is to be devoutly ignored.

#10 Lord Heathen on 2024-09-06 13:10 (Reply)

Ah yes, it is the know it all of all things

#10.1 JC on 2024-09-06 13:20 (Reply)

Ah Yes, I read from the bottom up. the Z word is the No Go signal.

#10.2 Jan Peter Blickenstaff on 2024-09-06 14:08 (Reply)

Worlds most isolated tribe kill loggers encroaching on their land deep in Amazon rainforest

Now that's a neighborhood association I can get behind!

#11 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2024-09-06 14:24 (Reply)

This is a very old game that plays both ways. Next the loggers will kill some tribe members. Of course the supporters of the "tribe" will cry foul. But it is what it is.

#11.1 JustMe on 2024-09-06 14:57 (Reply)

Yea, the loggers will have 30 round magazines on their 'Husqvarnas.'

#11.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-06 15:29 (Reply)

More evidence that the admin state has gone totally insane. The USDA collaboration with the Chinese Academy of Sciences on bird flu gain-of-function experiments. Project began in 2021 and will run through 2026. FOIA docs confirm USDA lied about Chinese Bird Flu research partnership.

found at whitecoatwaste.org on 2024/09/05
can likely find this at PJ media as well

#12 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-06 16:00 (Reply)

WOW! Trump just dropped DAMNING ad featuring cackling Kamala... but it's deadly serious

https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2024/09/wow-trump-just-dropped-damning-ad.html

#13 ST on 2024-09-08 11:00 (Reply)

ST: but it's deadly serious

The Great Tragedy of Science: The Slaying of a Beautiful Hypothesis by an Ugly Fact — Thomas Henry Huxley

Abramitzky et al., Law-Abiding Immigrants: The Incarceration Gap Between Immigrants and the US-born, 1870–2020, National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) 2023: "As a group, immigrants have had lower incarceration rates than the US-born for 150 years. Moreover, relative to the US-born, immigrants’ incarceration rates have declined since 1960".

#13.1 Zachriel on 2024-09-08 12:41 (Reply)

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