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NY Times Wants You To Stop Using Fireworks On Independence Day

Actually, Presidents Still Can’t Murder People with Impunity

Chevron: Oh, sad, sad, sad for Experts. They now have to worry about being right!

Stuart's Wednesday Potpourri

The Supreme Court Didn't Destroy the Regulatory State. It Stood Up for Due Process.

Poetic Justice - Ancient philosophers and tragedians would have understood the human folly—from the media, the president, and his party—that led to last week’s debate debacle.

Biden becomes Orange Man too

POLITICO Dumps Cold Water All Over Biden's 'Nice Old Man' Image in Yet Another Damning Report

"Unlike Biden and many others, I refuse to participate in a campaign to scare voters with the idea that Trump will end our democratic system."

Best Trump ad ever?

The NatCons in Europe and America - The movement that frightens the left

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Thought we did this one. 🤔

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Actually, Presidents Still Can’t Murder People with Impunity . . . That’s why Trump himself is reporting ten days from now to a Manhattan courtroom for criminal sentencing over checks he wrote at his desk in the Oval Office, for which he was hauled before a jury by a county prosecutor.

Except he's not. The sentencing has been postponed until September, “if such is still necessary.” In other words, even a conviction falsifying business records to pay off a porn star may be tossed.

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When Trump tried to overturn the election to retain power, he was given a remedial civics course in what presidents can’t control.

Stupid crimes are still crimes — unless you are the president.

And finally,

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the president could be stripped of Secret Service protection and left to the mercies of the mob.

The one true protection of constitutional government, the mob. "I am Cinna the poet, I am Cinna the poet."

#1 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 09:29 (Reply)

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Thought we did this one.

Maybe, just maybe, it will dawn on you that no one cares what you did or didn't do.

#1.1 eeyore on 2024-07-03 11:40 (Reply)

Tired of him. He's been run off of most sites. Why does he still bray here? Must be getting paid.

#1.1.1 TWS on 2024-07-05 03:15 (Reply)

re NYT wants you to stop using fireworks

They also want you to stop eating meat on the 4th as well.

Somehow that is a patriotic thing to do in their warped tiny brains.

#2 feeblemind on 2024-07-03 09:51 (Reply)

QUOTE:

The Supreme Court Didn't Destroy the Regulatory State. It Stood Up for Due Process. . . the Supreme Court overturned a decades-old precedent that required judges to defer to the supposed expertise of executive agencies.

What it means is that judges will now decide how much laughing gas in the atmosphere is too much. Justice Thomas was laughing all the way to the bank.

#3 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 09:53 (Reply)

What it stands for is that if congress wants a limit on Oxides of Nitrogen in the atmosphere, they should request a report from the EPA with a proposed limit, write that limit into the statute where it can be debated in chamber, and then pass the negotiated limit into law, rather than leaving this to the agency rule making and Congressional Register process. Then all the agency and judges have to determine is if the legal limit was exceeded or not, according to their executive and judicial functions.

#3.1 Another guy named Dan on 2024-07-03 10:08 (Reply)

You mean they can't just make up a number and run with it because 'it seems like a good idea', or 'well, we'd rather be safe than sorry', or 'we don't see any real evidence of this, but our computer models indicate that in one out of ten runs it was a problem (but our model also says 2+2=17, so we're a bit leery of it...)'?

'Tis a bit nuts to me how they take a 'hey, you can do this if necessary' becomes 'We gotta do this because we can do it.'

#3.1.1 JLawson (Link) on 2024-07-03 11:56 (Reply)

JLawson: You mean they can't just make up a number

That's right. For instance, the Clean Air Act (42 U.S.C. § 7401 et seq.) requires the government to research the problem of air pollution; establish a board with expertise in related fields, scientific and business; to devise regulations concerning air quality; balance economic and health impacts; review and revise regulations based on an independent scientific review; and publish the regulations for public comment before implementation.

#3.1.2 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 12:10 (Reply)

We've seen how those 'independent' scientific reviews work at the UN AGW IPCC and how they work in EPA vs (fill in your environmental group) sue and settle cases. No thanks, SCOTUS got it right. Now all sides get represented and it is transparent.

#3.1.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2024-07-03 14:05 (Reply)

What ie means is that congress has to do its job. You know, representatives of the people, constitutional democracy, all that silly stuff. This court certainly has an annoying tendency to make the other branches and other courts do what they are required to.

Do you understand any of this stuff at all?

But don't worry, when Michelle Obama is president they'll pull all the power right back where you want it--in the hands of a few elites.

#3.2 SK on 2024-07-03 10:17 (Reply)

Another guy named Dan: What it stands for is that if congress wants a limit on Oxides of Nitrogen in the atmosphere, they should request a report from the EPA with a proposed limit, write that limit into the statute where it can be debated in chamber, and then pass the negotiated limit into law, rather than leaving this to the agency rule making and Congressional Register process.

Except that Congress didn't do that. They wrote a broad law regulating industrial emissions.

The fundamental problem is that science and technology are constantly changing. Congress is too clumsy and inert to regulate each and every chemical by amount, when the invention of chemicals is an everyday occurrence, and where our understanding of the dangers of specific chemicals also changes based on new scientific knowledge. So, Congress passes a law that grants the power to a regulatory agency to use objective standards and rule-making powers under the Administrative Procedure Act. The Court has now arrogated themselves the responsibility to determine how much laughing gas nitrogen oxides is too much. Chevron was overturned on statutory grounds, so Congress could (if they weren't in the thrall of big business) pass new legislation; but such specific legislation as you suggest would be impotent in the face of the modern world.

SK: This court certainly has an annoying tendency to make the other branches and other courts do what they are required to.

The Courts took the power unto themselves. But under this decision, Congress could still pass broad-based regulatory authority.

#3.3 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 10:43 (Reply)

That broad law was unconstitutional. Congress got lazy or perhaps Congress knew they couldn't get it passed if they spelled out their 'intent'.
Face it... the old FDR court majorities are well past their due date. Welcome to the new world.

#3.3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2024-07-03 12:42 (Reply)

Article I
Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Please direct me to the part where it says "Unless they're too busy" or "unless they decide things are too complicated".

#3.3.2 Another Guy Named Dan on 2024-07-03 14:49 (Reply)

Another Guy Named Dan: Please direct me to the part where it says "Unless they're too busy" or "unless they decide things are too complicated".

The same place it says that they can't write broadly defined laws. For example, see the Judiciary Act of 1789. The Attorney General job was to prosecute suits in the Supreme Court and to advise the president.

#3.3.3 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 15:33 (Reply)

Chevron never made sense to me from a logical-procedural standpoint. The very definition of an ambiguous statute is that it can be reasonably interpreted more than one way. The major problem is that Chevron did not bind an agency to its own precedent, across administrations or even among cases. For example, an agency could under its interpretation of the FFA first rule that a bump stock did not convert a rifle into an automatic weapon, and then later change that opinion to declare that it does.
This leaves the average citizen unsure of what the actual laws and regulations are and grant unelected and unaccountable regulators the power to thwart the actual purposes of Congress.

#4 Another Guy named Dan on 2024-07-03 09:55 (Reply)

The problem with government and their power is that they cannot help themselves from abusing it. In order to function they must have certain powers or abilities and you look the other way for a minute and they are fining people and throwing them in jail under powers that were intended to protect and help citizens.

A good example of this with a very human context happened in Houston just a week or so ago. A grandmother was taking video near here home of police activity that seemed odd to her. The police were towing all the cars in a parking lot and there were a lot of police there just walking around chatting with each other so she asked what was going on and how they knew that all of those cars were parked illegally. The police kept totally ignoring this woman until a male cop grabbed her and executed a beautiful MMA throw slamming the lady into the concrete and rendering her unconscious and at that moment even near death. Immediately the policeman was heard to command the unconscious, unmoving body to "stop resisting", which is police speak for "I'm going to beat the shit out of you and I need an excuse so that I can get away with it.

But the woman remained unmoving her body trying to breathe with him on top of her while leaking profuse amounts of blood. Had she been a teen or a man no doubt the cop would have continued to beat the lifeless body but in this case two women cops, the two the lady was trying to speak with but were ignoring her questions, commented that "that was a lot of blood" and the assaulting officer suddenly realized his beating and torture must end because now there were witnesses and their cameras were rolling. Oops!

There is no power that you can give to government that they will not abuse and if you call them on that abuse they will then concentrate that abuse on you. THAT is exactly what happened on Jan 6th, except... it was even worse than that because it was a setup, a premeditated criminal act against peaceful protestors with the intent and hope of inciting something far worse with the intent to cover up a stolen election (another abuse of power).

You may think that you can vote your way out of this. You may know that the 2020 election was stolen but think that was a "one off" event. It was not. Every close election has been stolen by the Dems since about 1960. Local, state and national elections are routinely stolen the difference in 2020 is that Trump won by perhaps 10-15 million votes so it took a massive effort to steal that election and the Democrats threw caution to the wind and the steal was impossible to cover up. The left intends to rule over you and to do that they must steal the elections. They will steal the 2024 election. If somehow Trump wins don't be fooled because about 100 Democrat congressman will have stolen the election from their Republican opponents. They will then use congress to destroy Trumps presidency.

#5 OneGuy on 2024-07-03 10:24 (Reply)

I still would like to know who gave the order to stop the counting in six states, simultaneously at 3am.

#5.1 B. Hammer on 2024-07-03 10:56 (Reply)

OneGuy: A good example of this with a very human context happened in Houston just a week or so ago. A grandmother was taking video near here home of police activity that seemed odd to her.

Can you provide a link to that story. Thanks.

OneGuy: There is no power that you can give to government that they will not abuse

That is very true.

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." — Lord Acton

#5.2 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 10:58 (Reply)

OneGuy: Local, state and national elections are routinely stolen the difference in 2020 is that Trump won by perhaps 10-15 million votes

B. Hammer: I still would like to know who gave the order to stop the counting in six states, simultaneously at 3am.

The process was adjudicated in the courts, and no evidence of widespread fraud was found. Which states?

#5.3 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 11:02 (Reply)

The process was dismissed by the courts, they didn't want to hear the evidence. The evidence was massive. One simple example was Georgia which had 300,000 more votes than voters. Someone manufactured in excess of 300,000 ballots and mailed/carried them in to the counting office. And Georgia certified the election. Why would you do that? I can't imagine that any honest person who would not immediately demand that the election either be nullified or re-run. The election was obviously stolen. And don't forget that was only one metric where obvious fraud was found. Another example in Georgia was that thousands of ballots were counted multiple times. Not only do we have the machine receipts for that but we actually have video of the two women who did it. AND, you won't believe this, both of these women were given a national award in the White House by Biden for "protecting Democracy"!!!

#5.3.1 OneGuy on 2024-07-03 11:27 (Reply)

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"The process was adjudicated in the courts"

Same with everything you're whining about above. But alas, consistency is not your style.

#5.3.2 eeyore on 2024-07-03 11:35 (Reply)

OneGuy: One simple example was Georgia which had 300,000 more votes than voters.

Do you have evidence to support that claim? By the way, Georgia mail-in votes have barcodes so they can be tracked.

OneGuy: Not only do we have the machine receipts for that but we actually have video of the two women who did it.

If you are referring to Ruby Freeman and Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, that case was adjudicated, contrary to your claim that courts didn't want to hear the evidence. A jury found Giuliani liable for slander. Freeman and Moss were subject to death threats and racist slurs due to the false conspiracy theory propagated by Giuliani and others.

#5.3.3 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 11:40 (Reply)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWhhESzD1Tk
That case was NOT about the election. It was a lawfare attack on Guiliani in a biased court with a biased jury. It was punishment to shut him up for exposing the fraud that was the Georgia election. It was right out of the 1984 novel. It took some balls to be that much in our face by getting caught on video cheating in the election and then having the recipient of that cheating award the two ballot counters an national award. THAT is how bold the cheating has gotten. Speak out about it and we bankrupt you in our kangaroo courts and give the medal of honor to the cheaters. The only surprise is that they didn't also accuse Guliani of raping them in the changing room of a Manhattan luxury department store.

#5.3.3.1 OneGuy on 2024-07-03 12:21 (Reply)

OneGuy: One simple example was Georgia which had 300,000 more votes than voters.

Z: Do you have evidence to support that claim?

OneGuy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWhhESzD1Tk

That's not evidence to support your claim. Nor does your link provide evidence concerning Freeman and Moss. Or evidence of anything really.

#5.3.3.2 Zachriel on 2024-07-03 13:28 (Reply)

https://x.com/realLizUSA/status/1801972275970728065 and also at

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1801972275970728065?refresh=1718727821

There are over 20K unsubstantiated ballots in GA's 2020 original results from tabulators that "do not exist" according to the Rossi/@KevinMoncla complaint.

Tabulators have serial numbers... where is Sec of State, where is FBI?

Then there is Chinese money laundered through Tides and NGO's and Smurfing, as in Tammy Baldwin.
https://x.com/PeterBernegger/status/1795995612556480693

And then the old democratic standard... If the illegal alien believes they are lawfully permitted to vote, they are not prosecuted.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/05/09/tucker-carlson-interviews-catherine-engelbrecht-about-illegal-alien-voting/

Where is the FBI? DOJ? Sec of State? missing in action.

#5.3.3.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2024-07-03 15:11 (Reply)

The cheat is on.

QUOTE:

U.S. elections are no longer about “votes,” modern elections in America are about “ballots”. As we have seen in several election cycles, the election winner is not the person who gets the most votes – the election winner is the person who collects, submits and ultimately counts the most ballots. The same is true for the presidential electoral victory; it’s the person who gets the most ballots, not votes.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/03/james-clyburn-visits-10-key-precincts-for-ballot-collection-in-three-wisconsin-cities-madison-milwaukee-beloit-and-no-one-notices/

#5.3.3.2.1.1 Zachinoff on 2024-07-03 20:06 (Reply)

NY Times Wants You To Stop Using Fireworks On Independence Day

The article discussed the writer's dog, who didn't like the noise of fireworks. It went on to ask the reader to imagine all the wildlife- deer, foxes, etc.- who didn't like the sound of fireworks. The most highly recommended comments agreed that fireworks on the 4th are a no-no. There are more scolds than I can imagine.

I recall spending the 4th one year at my grandparents, and could see fireworks set off in town, 8 miles away.

#6 Gringo on 2024-07-03 10:46 (Reply)

Apparently the folks at NYT never heard of a Thundershirt. Not sure how they'd fund or apply Thudershirts for the wildlife, though.

I'm going to compromise with them, and give up reading the NYT starting on July 4th. Until the tricentennial.

#6.1 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2024-07-03 11:48 (Reply)

Are effective treatments for his Parkinsonism going to make Joe Biden an effective president going into 2025? Given the history of the last three and a half years, I'd say no.

#7 RebeccaH on 2024-07-03 11:07 (Reply)

A funny thing happened during Obama's presidency. Many members of the Muslim Brotherhood were "installed" in key positions in the federal government. This has continued under Biden. Obama is a traitor intent on destroying America. A whistle blower came forward and exposed this secretive practice and was mysteriously killed. Obama's presidency was a silent coup. Trump's was an attempt to get the country back but was thwarted by Democrats and Republicans too. Trump's reelection is the final battle. The traitors and infiltrators cannot allow that. One way or another Trump will be stopped. At this point no one who is opposed to Trump is a friend to America. Many of them are stupid or naive but many of them are traitors. It is a distinction without a difference.

25 years ago you could have said; well if that happens I will go to __ (fill in the blank with your favorite safe Western country). You cannot say that anymore. Even our neighbor Canada has been taken over by the left wing cabal. You do know that many of those good Canadians who participated in the trucker strike are still in jail or under restrictions of their freedoms. You know that, right? Kinda like or J6 hostages. Australia and New Zealand are going to hell in a hand basket and Most of Europe is toast waiting to be buttered in white man's blood. There's no place to go when this becomes kinetic and no one is coming to save you. And here is an irony for you: Mexico may be the safest place to go!! And if that isn't enough irony: Mexico is deporting Americans for overstaying their visas. LOL!!!

#8 Anon on 2024-07-03 11:41 (Reply)

Obama is the 'I will stand by Islam president'. But the NATO presidents involved with the Ukraine mess, along with the CIA and State dept bandits, have been involved as well. Everyone seems to forget the creation of Kosovo out of thin air. How did we get in the middle of that? Oh yea, the 'tail wagging the dog' policy. Keep track of Hillary... she craps on everything.

#9 indyjonesouthere on 2024-07-03 12:52 (Reply)

Today of all days.
You cannot make up something this stupid.

Seriously?

#10 Zachinoff on 2024-07-03 15:23 (Reply)

Gotta keep the money coming in.

Pols live to think there's a simple answer to really complex medical issues, and by throwing enough money out there they can 'fix' it.

SOMETIMES throwing money into research works - like the few millions (mostly contributed and raised by the families of sufferers) for Cystic Fibrosis - they actually came up with a treatment for some kinds that'll extend life expectancies from 25 to 60+. (Friend of mine's son has it, wife went all in on fundraising for that cause. She said "If I raise enough money, can I keep my son?")

But that was hard-core directed research on a shoestring. They couldn't waste anything. A nebulous 'We're gonna cure Parkinson's' by throwing money at all major pharma will see most of it wasted, and little progress.

#10.1 JLawson (Link) on 2024-07-03 16:50 (Reply)

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