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First statistics can be misleading.
I think a lot of women depend on government, i.e. welfare, health care and perceived "protection". Also there are the drummed up issues like abortion, child support and divorce. So women tend to want government or big government to be there for them. There are also many women who don't need government to do these things for them but our society pushes people into tribes because divided people are easier to rule over and women/feminism is tribal. You will rarely see or hear a woman defend a man's actions right or wrong but they will eagerly defend a woman's actions without regard to it being right. Women are exempt from a lot of consequences that men must face daily and this special treatment is considered desirable by them and the government reinforces it exactly to keep them voting for more government. Women, by their nature, look to others to protect and care for them. They approach government the same way they approach relationships
Women do not universally vote more lefty than men. In Chile, Allende's support was smaller from women than from men. From Paul Sigmund's The Overthrow of Allende and the Politics of Chile: 1964-1976, we find out that in 1970, Allende's Popular Unity got 30.5% of the women's vote, as opposed to 36.3% of the overall vote- which would mean that Allende polled about 42% of the men's vote.
A comment from Jamie at the Althouse blog,"Young men are not as troubled by the chaotic and divisive style of Trump, while young women want people to be respected including themselves, want stability..." discusses why women in the US go more lefty than men. QUOTE: Without reading comments yet - young women don't typically want "people to be respected." They want a lack of conflict (or, if there is conflict, they want to believe they're on the correct side of the conflict, and they want lots of people agreeing with them and surrounding them so they're not isolated), and themselves to be deferred to personally. I remember exactly what that felt like. I am reminded of my cousin, who will now and again bring up politics, but quickly drops politics when I make it clear that I don't agree with her. Which led me to conclude that in making a comment on politics, she was looking for affirmation that we agreed with each other. When I made it clear we were not, she stopped the conversation on politics. The amazing thing to me, sometimes, is that young men's desire to have a mate - for however transient a period, thank you very much sexual revolution, is so strong that they'll put up with us at the most annoyingly demanding time in our lives. 5/1/24, 5:03 PM Jamie made this comment about young women, but my cousin and I are senior citizens. The feminine origination of 'safe spaces' and 'trigger warnings'.
Because testosterone levels drive men to seek adventure, challenge, conflict, and dominance, while estrogen levels drive women to seek support, peace, safety, and placid agreements. Each of these drivers have a place of prominence in the furtherance of the species.
Women are naturally pre-disposed to being taken care of. Thus paternalistic government (progressivism) is their default desire.
Circle Dancing:
https://www.thenewneo.com/2024/05/07/rules-for-pro-hamas-radicals-the-circle-dance-revisited/ Why are women so lefty? Several comments here from Erasmus, Aggie, J. Nelson are correct. Women are programmed for safety. Men are programmed for freedom. At least that's how it was for 100,000 years. Men got their balls clipped when they began punching a time clock. Whatever... it is human nature for the woman to demand safety as she is protecting the children. Meanwhile the man has built the home and is hunting the beast, bringing home the food and chilling out at the end of day. This is genetic programming and cannot be denied. Men gotta feel like they still have a place in the game, the hunt and the fight, so they watch football.
You have all failed to see the picture. Since the beginning of the feminist revolution groups of women (gangs) have been organized to campaign for their equality. That is a small group of women in any neighborhood who knew each other, who believe in the same things and most importantly knew the locally acquired skillset to hurt the opposition. As unions became more powerful, they supported women and women loved and dutifully obeyed. That is the got in the habit of doing little dirty tricks on those who did not agree with the union bosses. You know little things that nobody will see you do except the victim will know why.
Then in the 1970's when the real political push for women's equality became so active--those women in the unions, in the little community groups--think sororities--became more powerful because of their incredible skills at organizing and an increased psychological understanding of the words to say, the emotions to play upon, etc. I know of no woman, who would stand up to the president of her sorority or junior league when they request a little "nudge" to help a third woman come around to the party line. Usually those are actions such as blacklisting, or denying access to legal representation, denying an opportunity rightfully earned. All a young woman has to do to prove she is worthy of a leadership role is to do just do a little dirty "nudge" against someone "the leadership women" have decided to punish. You have failed to understand that the very wealthy women in charge of the women's movement--those gals who destroyed the Episcopal Church and put "a black man in the white house". Those gals are very evil and any woman under them will be intimidated! A long time ago it may have been because of the social needs created back in the cave days, but for the last 50 years women have become a monstrous group like the mafia, or any other life-threatening system of bullies and corruption. It's no longer about keeping your child safe, it is now about getting your child on the ladder to a better job--a professional position--a leadership role. Maybe even if you are very obedient the democratic party will let you be on a local "political action committee". As I said, it was the punching of the time clock that began the disruption of the organic nature of man and woman. Employees are slaves clawing the eyes out of their fellow slaves. Women have longer finger nails.
A random poll I read not long ago showed women (at least those polled) prefer security over freedom. It even mentioned they want to be safe from speech they don’t like. Seems to be awfully inconsistent with them also voting for catch-and-release prosecutors and the defund police movement.
So, basically most of these women rejected the patriarchy to replace it with the patriarchy of daddy government. They wish to be liked and that emotional desire is easily manipulated.
They wish to be liked and that emotional desire is easily manipulated. I am a woman but nonconforming in the agreeableness trait.
1) Desire to help others. They are primed for caring during the ages when they can get pregnant.
2) A common weakness in women is the inability to see the big picture. They see the little things as more important than the big characteristics. He might be a murderer, but he sent his mother a card on Mother's Day. He might beat her up, but he buys her flowers. This is why you can be a great guy, but she leaves you for something stupid like littering. 3) The above can be solved by marriage and family. They can love on their own and take care of the massive details of life. Wife is a title with authority, but somehow that has been forgotten. 1. Let’s not forget that our elections have been rigged at least since the 1960s - either through removal from office or voter fraud. An extra benefit for the fraudsters is that those illegitimate results have driven a wedge between men and women.
Of lesser importance: 2. Men are taught to reign in their instincts. Women are taught to indulge their instincts. 3. Socialism works . . . when it’s voluntary. The family unit, religious organizations, operate on the principle: from each according to their means, to each according to their needs. When Uncle Bob asks for financial support because of some bad luck, family members help out. But that help dries up the third, fourth, and fifth time he comes asking for a hand out. Compassion coupled with personal self sacrifice isn’t freely given. 4. Families used to be strict, with rules. This teaches both the female and male children that even the most loving, well intentioned parents aren’t a substitute for the freedom of making your own decisions. Interesting thread. I am a bit surprised no one has directly identified the demise of Christianity as a major contributing factor in today's political divide between the sexes. Traditional Christianity identified values & mores and assigned (generally speaking) roles and expectation to men and women living in faith. As those were delegitimized and corroded over the past 60 years ("down with the Patriarchy" allegedly inherent in Christianity), women increasingly assumed nontraditional roles and, almost by design, embraced beliefs hostile to traditional ones, often fueling division and furthering a zero sum worldview (gains for women must necessarily come at the expense of men, etc.). Throw in the "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" aspect of it all (e.g., women are often more inclined to follow their emotions in supporting policies and practices impacting the role and reach of the State in everyday life) and the divide--and ramifications thereof--only becomes starker. So many Gen Z'ers are alarmingly uninformed about objective history and on-the-ground realities that help explain our world today (including very much the current Israel-Hamas war), and their ignorance contributes to a fervor that "something" must be done (damn the consequences). The male low-/no-information citizen appears to be more inclined to be poltically apathetic and non-voting; not so his female counterpart (sadly). One often sees this Orwell quote commenting about the unfortunate tendancy of young women to embrace radicalism; as with many of his observations and conclusions, this one seems very apt today: ‘It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.’
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