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No One’s Name Was Changed at Ellis Island

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The Democrats best candidate is Nikki Haley. Seriously. Her stated policies and agenda are no different from the DNCs stated policies and agenda. She could get all or most of the Democrat votes and 20% of the Republicans who are never Trumpers. She would be a shoe in. Nikki Haley could beat Trump running as a Democrat.

#1 OneGuy on 2024-01-22 10:56 (Reply)

Tricky Nikki, says Donald Trump. Hahaha. So true. She’s the RINO party personified. Jeb! 3.0. She’s the female John McCain. Willing to take on any principles that will get the left-wing media to write nice things about her. She is the Uniparty. The face of the Republican Party that has obsequiously led America to communism.

#1.1 B. Hammer on 2024-01-22 11:27 (Reply)

Spot on!
"The face of the Republican Party that has obsequiously led America to communism."

DemoRATS or RepubliCONS no difference!

#1.1.1 faculty wife on 2024-01-22 13:07 (Reply)

Filthy Koch-sucking Rove Republican swill gonna suck Koch.
And that is the very definition of Ms. Haley!

#1.2 Mark Matis on 2024-01-22 15:30 (Reply)

It has been my professional experience to note that people on vacation do not want to go to a designation that is in a complete state of corruption and governmental failure--a state such as South Africa.

They have had nearly unlimited support during the past 25 years to get their new government up and running and all they have done is become the most corrupt country on the planet which also happens to have nuclear war capability. At least in N. Korea there is solid structure to its government. In South Africa you never know what's going to happen in the next hour! Vacation destination? No thank you!

#2 faculty wife on 2024-01-22 12:39 (Reply)

You're spot on above South Africa. Was last there in 2006, and it was still safe outside of the townships. Now you couldn't pay me enough to set foot in that country again.

On a visit to Robben Island, where Mandela was imprisoned, our tour guide--a fellow inmate of Mandela and an ANC member --regaled us with tales of his Soviet handlers and trips to the USSR. He was an unabashed Marxist and a complete racist, utterly unconcerned about the fate of the country so long as his side won and the whites were driven out. I had approached the tour with an open mind, but by the end of the day I was ready to necklace the ess oh bee.

Oh, btw, I think the South African nuke program was discontinued about 30ish years ago, so we can be thankful for that small mercy. Can you imagine a country that can't manage water and power consistently also having WMDs?

Oh...

#2.1 Nonna Mouse on 2024-01-22 17:54 (Reply)

A classmate of mine 1949-1961 was from an immigrant family and I had no idea that they had changed their last name. Some years after graduation and I think after his parents died he changed his name back. It was an Eastern European name and really no big deal back then. More than half the people I knew and went to school with were immigrants or children of immigrants and there was a myriad of names and I don't see how "Americanizing" their name would have helped.

Having said that everyone knew "who you were and where you came from" because of your last name. Irish, polish, Greek, Italian and other European origin names were so common that it didn't matter. Yes some people preferred to associate with "their own" and ethnic jokes were common, but I rarely saw any hate or violence based on ethnicity. There was some discrimination, an early form of racial preferences in that you probably couldn't become a cop unless you were Irish or Italian and you couldn't join some of the local unions unless you were Italian.

#3 OneGuy on 2024-01-22 13:01 (Reply)

Joe Scarborough... another 'journalist' from the old Stalin school of reporting.

#4 indyjonesouthere on 2024-01-22 13:11 (Reply)

Sports Illustrated executive... I didn't think anyone in the media could be more clueless than Joe Scarborough.

#5 indyjonesouthere on 2024-01-22 13:15 (Reply)

All my ancestors were colonial era except for one great-grandmother. Her daughter, my grandmother, was bewildered why she had a very English surname before marriage, when both parents had immigrated from the continent in the late 1880's along with her own brother's family, and my grandmother's older brothers. Grandmother and her other brothers were born here.

While her ailing mother was still alive she asked why the family name had been changed for her parents, but not for the uncles on the great grandmother's side. GGM was emphatic that immigration would not let her and her husband into the country with their distinctively German surname and forced them to change it to an English equivalent before passage was assured. Her brothers shared her maiden name which was considered adequately inoffensive and they kept their surname which was vaguely English sounding.

During the 19'teens, her brothers Herman and Otto changed their first names to Howard and Ed as even with a very English surname they faced angry discrimination in New York and Philadelphia as Great War tensions arose. Being very young when they immigrated, they grew up with local accents and had no affinity for the old country in any way.

#6 Ed on 2024-01-22 13:50 (Reply)

I have a brother in law who is an ex con. I know his story and he used drugs and drove without a license etc. but never committed any serious crimes. But he was caught up in faked crime and the DA went after him and the public defender was useless, so he did some serious time. I told him when he got out to not tell anyone that he was an ex-con. Make up a good story to explain where he was those years and stick with it. His life would be better. Simple truth, good advice.

It sounds to me like if someone at Ellis Island advised your grandfather to change his last name to something that would fit in and it would make his new life easier that this anonymous guy had your families best interest at heart. He gave your grandfather some good advice.

#6.1 JustMe on 2024-01-23 10:28 (Reply)

My family on both sides have been here from the early 18th century. In one family bible the last name is spelled three different ways. Not all people could read and write. Doing research on my spouse's maternal side it was always Spelled Marts and was supposed to be English. Funny when I went back to the early 1800's their name was really Martz and they were German living in a German town in Pennsylvania. They changed it on the next census in another town/state.

#7 JC on 2024-01-22 14:08 (Reply)

The claim that no one's name was changed at Ellis Island is simply abject BS. My grandfather's name was changed at Ellis by an immigration official who wrote something completely different than what he told him, simply because he was dark, swarthy, short, and spoke very poor English at the time. How do I know? He frickin' TOLD ME. My relatives left in the old country have a different name, which is a longer version of what the immigration "official" (aka, a$$hole) was told in 1915.

This is historical revisionism at it's worst.

#8 Blackwing1 on 2024-01-22 16:13 (Reply)

Headline: Journalist Who Mocked Unvaccinated Tennis Champ Djokovic Collapses and Dies Suddenly at Australian Open.

You just can't make this stuff up. So many of the "dies suddenly" crowd were staunch advocates of the vax or huge critics of the unvaxed. The irony is thick.

#9 OneGuy on 2024-01-22 18:17 (Reply)

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