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Saturday, December 9. 2023

Saturday morning links


 Parenting In The '80s Vs. Parenting Now


 The latest woke California insanity? A gender-neutral-toy law


 Long After COVID Pandemic Ended, Not One Federal Agency Has More than 50% of Its Staff at Office


 No White Faculty Allowed- At the University of Washington, civil rights laws have not stopped blatant racial discrimination in faculty hiring.


 The FAA is seeking people suffering from "severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities" to be air traffic controllers.


 TERF Wars at Lesbian Speed Dating - Jenny Watson wanted to create a space for lesbians to find love. That’s not what happened.


More $ for high-speed rail 


 Cuomo Aide: How We Killed New York


Stuart's Saturday Miscellany 


 TGIF: The Academy of Dunces - College presidents fail the test. California cancels Christmas. White House interns call for cease-fire. John Fetterman triumphs again. Plus, responsible yachts, Moms for Liberty, and more.


My favorite Ron DeSantis moment: Asked which U.S. President would inspire him, he said Calvin Coolidge.


 'Never Leave Home Without It': Israeli Forces Discover Hamas Leader's Credit Card


 Israel's IDF flushes Hamas's tunnels with sea water



Biden is Preparing to Blame Republicans for Ukraine Loss


 Ukraine has no path to victory and the war has become a massive sunk cost, yet Congress is about to send $60 billion more taxpayer dollars to Zelensky


Not my problem 


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The money for high speed rail isn't wasted. It pays of Democrats friends and family and unions who donate millions to get more Democrats elected. See! They aren't incompetent at all. We are just to stupid to deserve our freedom.
#1 OneGuy on 2023-12-09 08:48 (Reply)
Well Vivek Ramaswamy had the courage to say it out loud. Jan 6th was a setup by the feds under Pelosi. The demonstration was mostly peaceful except for some federal agitators in the crowd. Then once a massive force of federal and local law enforcement was on the scene they began firing rubber bullets and tossing flash grenades into the crowd. The federal government has been weaponized against us. Most of this was done under Obama but even after he was out of office his minions were still at work. What is the end game?
#2 OneGuy on 2023-12-09 08:58 (Reply)
OneGuy: The demonstration was mostly peaceful except for some federal agitators in the crowd.

People dragging police officers out of a police line into a violent crowd were not federal agitators. This guy beating a cop with an American flag pole after he was dragged into the crowd was not a federal agitator. People who broke into the Capitol to stop the electoral count were not federal agitators. People who plotted to go to the Capitol to prevent the electoral count were not federal agitators.
#2.1 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 09:55 (Reply)
Um, no. Ordinary protesters. No burning buildings, no attacks on cops. Friends wanted to go, just skeptical about the election. That's not illegal.
#2.1.1 Bird Dog on 2023-12-09 10:16 (Reply)
Bird Dog: Um, no. Ordinary protesters.

The claim was that the demonstration was mostly peaceful "except for some federal agitators in the crowd." But that claim was false. While there were certainly ordinary protesters, none of the people we noted were ordinary protesters, nor were they federal agitators. They were Trump supporters.
#2.1.2 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 10:32 (Reply)
"The claim was that the demonstration was mostly peaceful "except for some federal agitators in the crowd." But that claim was false."

That claim was not false. Your examples actually bolster the fact that it was mostly peaceful.
#2.1.2.1 eeyore on 2023-12-09 11:35 (Reply)
Once again the Quibble-DickZ ignore the evidence and promote their special kind of propaganda.

https://humanevents.com/2023/11/20/breaking-j6-footage-reveals-capitol-police-fired-into-peaceful-crowd-gave-no-warnings
#2.1.2.1.1 Zachinoff on 2023-12-09 15:38 (Reply)
Your still photos remind me of the Eddie Adams Saigon Execution photo.The truth behind the photo, that General Loan had just executed a war criminal (Nguyễn Văn Lém), caught red handed carrying out operations while not in uniform, was completely white washed out of the story. The photo was immediately used as a propaganda picture to bolster the anti Vietnam war protesters. The protesters never cared about the truth.

From All That's Interesting dot com:
QUOTE:
On the morning of the “Saigon Execution” photo, Nguyễn Văn Lém’s death squad had just killed 34 people – seven police officers, two or three Americans, and several police officers’ family members, all bound at the wrists and shot in the head over a pit – and they may have been looking for Loan himself.
#2.1.3 B. Hammer on 2023-12-09 13:33 (Reply)
B. Hammer: Your still photos remind me of the Eddie Adams Saigon Execution photo.

Don't see the connection. Are you claiming the Capitol police officer prone on the ground just killed "seven police officers, two or three Americans, and several police officers’ family members, all bound at the wrists and shot in the head over a pit," or do you mean the guy with the American flag pole beating the Capitol police officer prone on the ground?
#2.1.3.1 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 13:50 (Reply)
Of course you don't see the connection. Not surprising.
#2.1.3.1.1 B. Hammer on 2023-12-09 16:07 (Reply)
B. Hammer: Of course you don't see the connection.

Thought there might have been. Let us know once you are able to articulate it.
#2.1.3.1.2 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 17:46 (Reply)
Of course there was violence. That is what was intended. Get a few hundred cops fully armed against unarmed citizens and tell the police to beat grandmothers with a nightstick, lob flash grenades into the crowd and shoot people with rubber bullets and you get violence.

I am a big supporter of the police and all first responders. But even watching the show COPS I often saw the police using brute force and violence when it wasn't necessary. They literally enjoyed it. A very bad look for them. Yes I know when dealing with volent people it is hard to not get in a few dirty punches when you get them down. But for christ sakes don't do it on TV in front of everyone.
#2.1.3.1.2.1 OneGuy on 2023-12-09 20:42 (Reply)
OneGuy: Of course there was violence.

Before moving on to your new faulty claim, you should address your original claim that the demonstration was mostly peaceful "except for some federal agitators in the crowd." That implies that the only violence was by federal agitators. We provided several examples of violent behavior by people who were not federal agitators. Hence, your claim was false.

As for your new claim, even if police overreacted, that doesn’t justify violently storming the Capitol.
#2.1.3.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 21:43 (Reply)
And of course the Quibble-DickZ continue to promote their Soviet styled propaganda by using a couple of cherry picked photos to make fraudulent claims.

https://humanevents.com/2023/11/20/breaking-j6-footage-reveals-capitol-police-fired-into-peaceful-crowd-gave-no-warnings

Keep on trolling, kidZ. Your efforts are not very convincing,
#2.1.3.1.2.2.1 Zachinoff on 2023-12-10 12:17 (Reply)
Thanks for the Ron DeSantis note. The Coolidge quote at Althouse is also very noteworthy.
#3 Grant1863 on 2023-12-09 10:04 (Reply)
We mustn't forget Calvin Coolidge's scientific contribution, the Coolidge Effect:

QUOTE:
The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown, in separate parties, around a new experimental farm. When Mrs. Coolidge came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently. She asked the attendant how often that happened.

The proud attendant said, "Dozens of times each day!"

Mrs. Coolidge said, "Tell that to the President when he comes by."

Upon being told, the President asked, "Same hen every time?"

The reply was, "Oh, no, Mr. President, a different hen every time."

President: "Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge."
#3.1 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 10:14 (Reply)
Thanks, whether it's true or not it gave me a good laugh.
#3.1.1 Don on 2023-12-09 12:30 (Reply)
At a White House dinner, a woman seated next to President Coolidge turned to him and declared, "Mr President, I've made a five-dollar bet with my friend that I would be able to make you say more than two words tonight".

To which Coolidge replied, "You lose".

(Possibly apocryphal, but still good.)
#3.1.2 JJM on 2023-12-09 13:01 (Reply)
'Long After COVID Pandemic Ended, Not One Federal Agency Has More than 50% of Its Staff at Office'

One of the few good things about the plandemic.
#4 Maniac on 2023-12-09 10:15 (Reply)
QUOTE:
Ukraine has no path to victory and the war has become a massive sunk cost, yet Congress is about to send $60 billion more taxpayer dollars to Zelensky . . .

Not my problem

Yeah. Who could imagine that the invasion of an underdeveloped country in eastern Europe could embroil the United States in a global war. Not going to happen. Most American can't even find it on the map.

QUOTE:
Ukraine has no path to victory . . .

While there is no clear path to victory, there is a clear path to defeat.
#5 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 10:23 (Reply)
Who goes to war against the Russians?

Stupid.
#5.1 BD on 2023-12-09 13:34 (Reply)
BD: Who goes to war against the Russians?

Lots, including people fighting Russian hegemony.
#5.2 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 13:47 (Reply)
Napoleon and Hitler. Zelensky is strike three.
#5.2.1 Lord Heathen on 2023-12-09 16:23 (Reply)
Lord Heathen: Napoleon and Hitler.

And, more recently, Afghanistan.
#5.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-12-09 17:49 (Reply)
Russia is primarily equipped for a land war. The Ukes are well aware of that now ... just ask them about all the 155 rounds hitting their backyard.
For Zelensky to listen to the Brit advice about peace offerings from Russia went from poorly reformed to extra stupid with a side order of caskets.
#5.2.3 indyjonesouthere on 2023-12-09 19:58 (Reply)
And yet the Russians have failed hands down to make any substantive advances since they launched their thoroughly botched invasion almost two years ago.
#5.2.3.1 JJM on 2023-12-09 21:43 (Reply)
I sincerely hope that if that's true about the FAA's new hiring practices, most of those DEI candidates will wash out of the training. In any case, with recent history, I'm never setting foot on another airplane ever.
#6 RebeccaH on 2023-12-09 12:01 (Reply)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1732520894327595416
$5000 VISA card
#7 Anon on 2023-12-09 12:52 (Reply)
Here's Trump's 10-Point Plan to "Shatter the Deep State"

https://www.independentsentinel.com/heres-trumps-10-point-plan-to-shatter-the-deep-state/
#8 feeblemind on 2023-12-09 13:38 (Reply)
I like his idea of moving agencies out of DC. Dept of the interior should be in... well the interior, Western Colorado. The FBI should be closer to the crimes, St Louis or Chicago perhaps. The EPA, DO Energy and education should be eliminated. Congress should consider meeting a few times a year in different states just to get out amongst the citizens. Congressional committees should meet in locations outside of DC too, again to give Americans a chance to be involved. Surely the Supreme Court could spend a week at a time in various big cities around the country. I think we should move the UN out of NYC and into an empty building in Kiev.
#8.1 OneGuy on 2023-12-09 20:53 (Reply)
Who gets to decide what is or isn’t gender neutral? If a truck is a boy’s toy, you’re sending a message to girls that they can’t drive trucks. Toys are toys and kids are kids. Let them play whatever toy they want. And it may very well turn out to be the box the toy came in.
#9 Galway Boy on 2023-12-09 14:40 (Reply)

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