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Friday, November 24. 2023

Friday morning links


 How to (Actually) Change Someone’s Mind. How do you convince someone who, for one reason or another, doesn’t see eye-to-eye with you?


Why bother? 


 Unreal Cringe Moderna COVID Shot Commercial Drops


 Heightened climate change concerns in adolescents linked to lower life satisfaction and pro-environmental behavior


I don't buy it. Many adolescents just need something external to be upset with 


 Pro-Palestinian Climate Change Group Disrupts Macy's Parade


Nobody likes a party-pooper 


 Community Colleges and Trade Schools Are Largely Void of Israel-Hamas Protests


 CNBC Eliminates Climate Desk, No More Dedicated Staff Covering Climate Change


Only a million $? 


  I’m not unsympathetic to those who seek to exchange the faith they were born into for another. I do, however, feel somewhat puzzled by women who convert to Islam.


David Sedaris: Punching Down - A Thanksgiving treat from the most delightful man on planet Earth.


 The vast majority of Muslims reject violence, but the absence of the notion of divine self-limitation has important implications for Islam.


 Liberals are realising that Trump will probably win. And they are terrified


Trump is Hitler - but so was Reagan, Nixon, Bush, etc.


 Can Europe Become Western Again?


  This round was not the first in the Arab wars with Israel and will not be the last. 


About those Hamas tunnels 





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" The vast majority of Muslims reject violence..."

Unfortunately, this 'vast majority' also rejects the idea of speaking out against violence, probably for fear of retribution and punishment from within.

This is the crux of the problem when dealing with Islam, and its perpetuity is guaranteed because the violent mindset is a powerful attractant to angry, frustrated young men who are seeking agency and power within their own lives.

Islam is in desperate need of an enlightenment-reform phase, but it can not happen until violence is eschewed. I personally believe it will take external mandates, backed by force, to make this happen, and it won't happen until the women are running things.
#1 Aggie on 2023-11-24 08:38 (Reply)
Women are generally the most virulent and violent believers in any sect.

Anyway, much of Islamic violence is due the continued, if thinly disguised, Western colonial control of the Middle East. Of course, American colonialism there is "in your face", especially the looting of Syrian oil.
#1.1 bob sykes on 2023-11-24 09:29 (Reply)
What motivated the Barbary Pirates?
#1.1.1 Louis Miller on 2023-11-24 09:40 (Reply)
I would think it was the same thing that motivated the Muslim to jihad against Spain, and Europe in earlier centuries: fear. When everyone else is doing it, and the most powerful man in the territory has swarms of men ready and willing to do violence on his behalf, this will focus your mind on a certain path. The call of booty and the plundering of wealth is secondary, but enough for the weak mind.

Christianity can fall under the same spell. Rare indeed is the man that stands firm against the forces of populism. In Christianity, there is such a place for a man to stand against the overwhelming push to go along with the tide. In Christianity, forgiveness, mercy and the call to turn the other cheek, are virtuous acts. If you read the film review A Hidden Life, from the same website at the link, The Vast Majority of Muslims Reject Violence, you will find such a man that stood for his faith: Franz Jägerstätter.

Against even his local priest and bishop, who thought him a spy, trying to entrap them into admitting their true beliefs against the Reich, Franz Jägerstätter stood for his faith. Just as Jesus foretold: Mat 10:” 37 “If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. 38 If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine. 39 If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.” Franz Jägerstätter gave his life, but found it.

Throughout the history of the early Church, many martyrs for the faith can be found. As many women as men. Plenty of them were found in the concentration camps; Jews and Christians. In the early centuries of the Church, the first through the fourth, all the Popes gave their lives. Do you find such men and women in the Muslim faith? Perhaps, I believe I have read a few in modern times. But their numbers pail in comparison to the Christian.

*I know your question was a response to the fool bob sykes. I’m using your question to expound upon why violence is acceptable to the Muslim faith.
#1.1.1.1 B. Hammer on 2023-11-24 12:08 (Reply)
Who ENCOURAGED the Muslims to invade Spain?

The JEWS!
#1.1.1.1.1 Mark Matis on 2023-11-24 15:36 (Reply)
Money, slaves, women, loot.
#1.1.1.2 BD on 2023-11-24 13:09 (Reply)
Slow day at the Kremlin, bob?
#1.1.2 JJM on 2023-11-24 11:44 (Reply)
I totally agree with your statement about young men that are angry and wanting power over their lives. I think young western men convert to Islam because their place in life has been beat down by the modern culture that makes them feel loss of manhood. In Islam they can gain control over women again by making them sub servant. Why do women convert, because they are stupid and don't think they will be treated poorly. Obviously they haven't been paying attention to history .
#1.2 JC on 2023-11-24 10:02 (Reply)
College students and youth in general who choose some version of activism or acting out do it for the attention, for the pleasure of disagreeing with their parents, adults and the establishment. They find a cause, an idea, a belief that irritates or inflames and they use it to rage against "the man". Most or mis or uninformed, many are dealing with mental health issues and all are young, stupid and naive. Our current world situation in the West is a wealthy, lazy consumer society where all basic needs and most luxury needs are easily met and our youth are bored with too much time on their hands. There is a constant barrage of propaganda and misinformation from multiple sources and it is easy to be mislead and mistaken. Our government, teachers and parents are too lenient and lazy and there is virtually no cost to those who disrupt and destroy in the name of some stupid cause or outright grift. Often these people feel a sense of accomplishment as they prevent an ambulance from getting to the hospital in time or they burn down infrastructure in the name of the environment.

I will say that all of this would disappear overnight if the government treated violent activists the same way they are treating the Jan 6th demonstrators.
#2 OneGuy on 2023-11-24 09:57 (Reply)
Only a million $?

Of course bad actors have excellent accountants. They know they're surrounded by sharpies and crooks.
#3 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2023-11-24 10:32 (Reply)
Liberals are realising that Trump will probably win. And they are terrified

"What they are really worried about, it transpires, is that Trump, should he be elected again, might use the Justice Department `to take vengeance on his political rivals, plotting a vast expansion of presidential power and installing ideologically aligned lawyers in key positions to bless his contentious actions.'"

Projection is what BlueAnons do best. And karma is a bitch.
#4 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2023-11-24 10:37 (Reply)
Mike Anderson: Projection is what BlueAnons do best.

Trump:

QUOTE:
If I happen to be president, and I see somebody who’s doing well and beating me very badly, I say, ‘Go down and indict them,’” he said. “They’d be out of business. They’d be out of the election.

QUOTE:
root out the communists, Marxists, fascist and the radical-left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.

QUOTE:
This is third-world country stuff, ‘arrest your opponent.’ And that means I can do that, too.

QUOTE:
A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.
#4.1 Zachriel on 2023-11-24 10:43 (Reply)
Out of context quotations in order to mislead are what the Quibble-DickZ do best.
#4.1.1 Zachinoff on 2023-11-24 11:06 (Reply)
Exactly. Here is just one example of how disingenuous the Zach-bot can be.

The full quote:

QUOTE:
When you’re president and you’ve done a good job and you’re popular, you don’t go after them so you can win an election. They’ve done indictments in order to win an election. They call it weaponization,” Trump added. “But yeah they have done something that allows the next party, I mean if somebody, if I happen to be president and I see somebody who’s doing well and beating me very badly, I say go down and indict them, mostly they would be out of business. They’d be out. They’d be out of the election.


He is clearly not saying he WILL do it, but that IF he does it, the other person would be utterly destroyed.

I wonder what other stuff the Zach-bot hallucinates?
#4.1.1.1 eeyore on 2023-11-24 11:36 (Reply)
Stop. You've almost convinced me to vote for the guy. In spite of the fact that I think he's a real-life Captain Queeg and Ultimate Sore Loser.
#4.1.2 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2023-11-24 11:29 (Reply)
Mike Anderson: You've almost convinced me to vote for the guy.

That's up to you whether you want to vote for someone who calls for the "termination" of constitutional government. However, the quotes contradict your claim that such concerns are "projection."
#4.1.3 Zachriel on 2023-11-24 11:34 (Reply)
Yeah, why vote for the guy who is only calling for the termination of constitutional government (according to you) when you can vote for an administration that's already doing it? (who cares about the First, Second, Fourth, Sixth, and Eighth Amendments?)
#4.1.3.1 mudbug on 2023-11-24 13:25 (Reply)
mudbug: Yeah, why vote for the guy who is only calling for the termination of constitutional government (according to you) when you can vote for an administration that's already doing it?

Please be specific. How has the Biden administration terminated the constitution?
#4.1.3.2 Zachriel on 2023-11-24 13:38 (Reply)
The democrats to include the Biden administration, are continually in violation of the SCOTUS Bruen decision in which regulating guns, beyond what was regulated previous to and upon passage of the Constitution, is illegal.
Were serial numbers required on guns at that time? Did they even require background checks at that time?
And that is just getting started while only addressing the 2nd amendment.
For your information, I bought my first handgun at a Holiday gas station in Minnesota in 1965. There was No background check and I only had to prove my age of being at least 18 by showing a paper ID drivers license, paying cash for the handgun and having it handed to me after showing the license and paying the cash along with paying for my gas at 32 cents per gallon.
LBJ was the 'great society' president who screwed up everything he touched including immigration. And the democrats continue screwing everything up.
#4.1.3.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-11-24 15:01 (Reply)
Pursuing political opponents as criminals.
#4.1.3.2.2 Mark (Link) on 2023-11-24 17:05 (Reply)
Not specific.
#4.1.3.2.2.1 Zachriel on 2023-11-24 17:59 (Reply)
Troll bot says what?
#4.1.4 Lord Heathen on 2023-11-24 20:45 (Reply)
"Pro-Palestinian Climate Change Group"

You couldn't make up a nonsense term like that.
#5 JJM on 2023-11-24 11:43 (Reply)
Zach-bot: "However, the quotes contradict your claim that such concerns are "projection."

Nah. As I showed above, the first quote, so tortured out of context, actually bolstered the claim of projection.
#6 eeyore on 2023-11-24 11:48 (Reply)
In regards to "somewhat puzzled by women who convert to Islam."

Evolutionary biologists would explain then in every skirmish, battle or war, the females who don't switch allegiances to the winners are much less likely to pass their genes on than are those that do switch allegiances. This leads to a population consisting largely of females who at some level are comfortable switching allegiance.

Males on the losing side were typically executed, did not pass on their genes and so never had descendants who benefited from switching allegiances.

And our culture today unrelentingly reinforces the idea that the West is the loser in this battle. So it should not be surprising that females switch allegiances to the perceived winners.
#7 Old Dude on 2023-11-24 11:55 (Reply)
QUOTE:
Heightened climate change concerns in adolescents linked to lower life satisfaction and pro-environmental behavior


The adolescents have been subjected since 5 yrs old to the concerted effort by their teachers and professors to demoralize the youth "to save the planet". They have lower life satisfaction and heightened climate change concerns is because they have been indoctrinated by their enemies.

Jordan Peterson explained it quite well. Increasingly there is nothing worse for a young person than an college professor, at least those not in Physics, engineering and computer science (PECS). But those professors have minions doing their dirty work all the way down to kindergarten
#8 JK Brown on 2023-11-24 12:03 (Reply)
It started with the bs in Silent Spring by Carson. They even had elementary and middle schools named after Carson. Then the propagandists moved on to decades of earth worship with the endless programming of earth day. It became a state sponsored religion not unlike islam. Any other religion is banned or punished under the force and mandate of the state.
It began under the Malthusian flag of statism and continues under the same statist authoritarian socialism.
#8.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-11-24 14:21 (Reply)
"We see it most clearly with our short-sighted chums, ‘Queers for Palestine’."

That's like Chickens for Colonel Sanders.

White women who convert to the Religion of Pieces deserve everything they get and anything more.
#9 Maniac on 2023-11-24 13:34 (Reply)
And the women converts are now trying to beg their way back into European countries.
#9.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-11-24 14:29 (Reply)
There is a phenomenon happening in Europe where recent immigrants decide to stab white people. Yes that is what they admit to. Usually they choose the young, the very old or female victims or anyone who seems most vulnerable. This angers the population who are not recent immigrants because they recognize it for what it is; an invasion of terrorists. When the native white people demand that their government do something about this invasion and murder of innocents their government calls them names and blames them for the problem. Or if they agree to do anything at all to "fix" it the "fix" is usually pure BS, political double speak or whitewash and it "fixes" nothing. The European populations are becoming less satisfied with this arrangement and more vocal in their demands. They are voting out the traitors and electing people who promise to end the mass immigration and even to return immigrants to their own countries where mass stabbings may be more acceptable. But the left is doubling down, they seem hell bent on national suicide and actually enjoy calling their own citizens names if they dare object to the suicidal plan. How will this all end???
#10 OneGuy on 2023-11-24 13:45 (Reply)
Sooner or later someone (One Guy, maybe) is going to come up with a catch phrase (#StabWhitey maybe?) that gets the point across. Then Whitey will start chimping out, and woe betide anyone standing in the way crying "Racist! Genocide!" 'Cause Whitey will take those words as encouraging suggestions. Responsible leaders would do well to stop alienating their constituents and head this sort of thing off.
#10.1 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2023-11-24 15:10 (Reply)
Conner McGregor may have just opened the door.
#10.1.1 Louie Miller on 2023-11-24 15:40 (Reply)
I see nothing cringeworthy about that vaccine commercial. I notice that it is someone handled Natural Immunity FTW who thinks it is. What does that tell you? Vaccine skepticism was of course reasonable at first, because skepticism always is. they have become simply insane, believing nonsense.

Women and chess. If you beat people at the table, the stereotype doesn't matter. The evidence that stereotype bias has any effect whatsoever is nil. Really. Zero. Anecdotes, and suggestions that it all has "implications" for women in STEM. Show me the numbers.

You will notice I took the same attitude toward both topics. Deal with it.
#11 Assistant Village Idiot on 2023-11-25 20:25 (Reply)

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