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Thursday, October 26. 2023

Thursday morning links

Image via Moonbattery 


 Curiosity rover finds new evidence of ancient Mars rivers


 This Incredible Flip This Old House Hunters Wife Swap Fixers


Physics Lab Gives Lesson in Diversity


 When Everyone Gets an ‘A,’ What Does an ‘A’ Mean?


 Physicist Discovers He Has No Free Will: Chooses To Write Book To Say He Cannot Make Choices


 The fall of Scientific American - This once objective magazine now regularly panders to trans-activist pseudoscience.


 Greenland’s Tipping Point Cancelled? Claims Of A Runaway Melt Are Overblown


 Do We Really Know That Human Greenhouse Gas Emissions Cause Significant Climate Change?


 The Latest On Global Warming Is … There Is No Global Warming


 Staple a Green Card to Their ‘Kill the Jews’ Signs


 Cooke: Face It, the New York Times Wanted the Hospital Story to Be True


 Cornell professor who called Hamas attacks ‘exhilarating’ takes leave of absence


 Is This the End of History?


 Germany's Chancellor Says the Country Must Begin Mass Deportations of Illegal Aliens


 A New Peace Proposal: A Protectorate on the West Bank Governed by a Coalition of Major Powers



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A West Bank protectorate run by the UN? I'm sure that will work out fine.
#1 Jerryskids on 2023-10-26 08:02 (Reply)
It would be better than the current Israeli apartheid state.
#1.1 bob sykes on 2023-10-26 09:10 (Reply)
Israeli apartheid state. I've heard and seen that phrase used regularly. Can you elaborate on what it means?
#1.1.1 BornSouthern on 2023-10-26 09:16 (Reply)
It doesn't mean anything of course.

It's a slogan for a protest banner.
#1.1.1.1 JJM on 2023-10-26 10:40 (Reply)
Palestinians are Jordanians, for the most part. But they’ve worn out their welcome with their own people and just about all the Arab countries. They violently destabilized Jordan and Lebanon long ago. There are currently 68 Palestinian refugee camps. They are kept in camps as sorts of pets of the UN in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.

Stuff them all back into Jordan, where they came from and where they belong.
#1.2 Erasmus on 2023-10-26 09:14 (Reply)
That would be a disaster. The UN couldn't and wouldn't stop Hamas from using those lands to threaten and attack Israel. BUT they would effectively prevent Israel from going into those areas to take out Hamas after an attack. It would be a massive lose/lose. Ultimately the only answer for Israel will be to ignore the international community and attack when attacked and hit those sites that fired missiles every time, obliterate them... period. Keep the iron dome but add an iron fist. Israel must become ruthless or die. This should also apply to Iran. Expect Iran to actively enter the fray and the second they do attack them ruthlessly as well. There is zero chance of peace! It is only a cease fire while the terrorists rearm. Destroy them and destroy anyone in the way of the effort to destroy them. Bring in huge pumps and pump sea water into every tunnel entrance you can find in Gaza until the tunnels are full and keep them topped off for a few years.
#1.3 OneGuy on 2023-10-26 10:44 (Reply)
It would work about as well as a committee to run a business. Leaderless, aimless and eventual pointless.
#1.4 indyjonesouthere on 2023-10-26 14:26 (Reply)
Cliff Clavin (our Zach) comment "Ya but, the Norway study made no such claim if you read this through the mind of Greta" coming in 3, 2, 1...
#2 Maypo on 2023-10-26 10:25 (Reply)
Oh my. I now have the perfect picture of Zachriel: Cliff Clavin. And remember, Cliff lived with his mom and pretended to be all sorts of things that he wasn’t! Thank you. LOL
#2.1 B. Hammer on 2023-10-26 11:13 (Reply)
Yes the parallels are spooky. Non-self-aware gratuitous pontification. Endless ability to be an expert on any topic (well, to be fair, only any topic that is triggering to a far left partisan). Doesn't know when to stop. etc. etc.
#2.1.1 Maypo on 2023-10-26 12:24 (Reply)
"When Everyone Gets an 'A,' What Does an 'A' Mean?"

It means nothing of course.

I had a prof in university who announced at the beginning of his course that everybody would get a B. The effect was utterly demoralizing. In retrospect, it's too bad that this happened to the younger, more callow me then and not the me now. The me now would have quit that course right away.
#3 JJM on 2023-10-26 10:38 (Reply)
From The Incredibles: "When everyone is super, no one is super."

And my favorite apocryphal Faulkner quote: "I give all my students A's. I let life fail them."
#3.1 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2023-10-26 11:13 (Reply)
Actually, Faulkner has it quite right. Grades are indicators at best and performance is what everyone looks for if they wish to survive and prosper. It does sound Spockish.
#3.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-10-26 13:06 (Reply)
'Germany's Chancellor Says the Country Must Begin Mass Deportations of Illegal Aliens'

Deporting hordes of sensual, low-IQ brutes? Good luck with that.
#4 Maniac on 2023-10-26 11:19 (Reply)
At least it is being suggested out loud, even as the EU wants to bring in still more migrants.

We'll see.

Germany has a history of being able to do ethnic cleansing. Do they have the stomach to do it again?

Time will tell.
#4.1 feeblemind on 2023-10-26 12:12 (Reply)
It does seem that the old European stock is finally getting off its knees and trading out their progressive elite rulers for something that looks more likely to function in the real world.
#4.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-10-26 13:12 (Reply)
Maypo: the Norway study made no such claim

QUOTE:
The Latest On Global Warming Is … There Is No Global Warming

As Maypo points out, the paper doesn't say there is no global warming, but explicitly grants a warming trend. However, the paper asserts that the evidence doesn't support anthropogenic causation.

QUOTE:
According to Spencer, “the bottom line is that an estimated 22% of the U.S. warming trend, 1895 to 2023, is due to localized UHI effects,” and that “the effect is much larger in urban locations.”

Meanwhile, Spencer's own UAH trend {in green} is consistent with the surface trend.

QUOTE:
Do We Really Know That Human Greenhouse Gas Emissions Cause Significant Climate Change?

Yes, with strong scientific confidence.

QUOTE:
we have a paper by John Dagsvik and Sigmund Moen of Statistics Norway, dated September 2023, titled “To what extent are temperature levels changing due to greenhouse gas emissions?” This paper is particularly significant because it has been issued by a governmental agency

The appeal to authority is not valid as the government of Norway has not endorsed the paper, which is a preprint that has not yet been peer reviewed.

More particularly, the paper does not offer a “real analysis.” It doesn’t even attempt to account for greenhouse gases or combine those effects with other drivers of climate. The paper also cites approvingly several claims that have already been shown to be in error, while discounting or ignoring the findings of scientists far outside their own field of study.

Essentially, what the paper does is look at the curve and say that it could be natural because natural changes can cause large fluctuations. While true, that doesn’t mean that the current warming isn’t due to greenhouse gases.

QUOTE:
We start with the basic maxim that “correlation does not prove causation.” Instead, causation is established by disproof of all relevant alternative (“null”) hypotheses.

One can never exclude all possible null hypotheses. In any case, models of global warming are causative models based on physical principals that have been strongly established.

QUOTE:
Instead, all the inside clique of the climate science community have decided to agree that the new way to prove causation is to show really, really good correlation with the preferred hypothesis

Well, no. Just like in other fields, multiple independent lines of evidence are used to reach scientific conclusions.
#5 Zachriel on 2023-10-26 13:00 (Reply)
The only greenhouse gas of importance is water vapor whether as clouds, vapor in the air or as heat sink distribution. There is also NO correlation between CO2 and temperature as pointed out several times.
The 'dreaded' CO2 is only a tool used by ruling elites and grifters to lobby for more power, control and access to the taxpayer trough.
#5.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-10-26 13:30 (Reply)
Zachriel: What doesn't it know?

We'll just start it at level three climate cultist in honor of that recitation of climate theology.

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#5.2 eeyore on 2023-10-26 21:16 (Reply)
Regarding the end of history, watched a snippet of a Putin speech where he says you tell us we must always do this, we order you to do that, well just who are you?
Paging Francis Fukuyama or is he reading America Against America book by comrade Wang Huning?
O/T-Niece's Husky bolted out as I walked in the door and a gallop around the subdivision sector was on, a neighbor with soothing voice coaxed it into her car before it reached the highway, the running felt so good, time to up exercise level.
Thanked neighbor profusely for stopping a potential worst case scenario.
#6 I Just Felt Like Running on 2023-10-26 13:28 (Reply)
The way this will all go down is like this; Israel will enter Gaza and search for and kill Hamas. In the process Hamas will make sure Palestinian civilians get killed and use this to inflame the West and nearby Muslim states. Lebanon, Jordan and Syria will "snipe" at Israel and Israel will hit back thus expanding the war. It will be this trumped up provocation that will allow Iran the excuse to enter the war and they will try to limit it to two things: stand off drone attacks and their terrorist arm of their military attacking Israeli assets. But Israel will know immediately that Iran has entered the war directly and they will attack Iran. Iran again will use this as an excuse to escalate and go into full attack mode. Israel will have no other choice but to nuke Iran. And in that split second we have began nuclear war and potential Armageddon. It will likely spread to the rest of the world after that.
#7 Anon on 2023-10-26 15:26 (Reply)
Unfortunately, that sounds quite plausible.

If Israel backs down and doesn't enter Gaza, it can expect more of the same. As I see it, Israel must destroy the terror infrastructure: blowing up munitions and destroying the tunnels. To destroy the tunnels, as opposed to pinpricks against them, Israel will need to attack them from the ground in Gaza. Air attacks won't do it.

Which means Hamas will do as much as it can to keep "civilians" in northern Gaza.
And it proceeds as you predict.
#7.1 Gringo on 2023-10-26 17:12 (Reply)
OR, Israel will leak intelligence indicating preparations in Iran, Lebanon, Syria, or Jordan "coincidentally" with careful pre-emptive strikes and diplomatic statements to the effect of "This time we slapped your hand. Next time we cut it off."
#7.2 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2023-10-26 18:49 (Reply)
The police and DA's want defendants to talk. They love it when Defendants run their mouth. And why not? Everything they say can be used against them. Defense attorneys plead with their clints to say nothing. OJ Simpson's lawyer told him right in court if he said one more word that he would quit tight there. So why are Trump's DA's and judges so adamant that Trump must be gagged??? Of course the answer is obvious, because Trump is innocent AND all of the witnesses AND the DA's and their staff are lying. They don't want Trump talking because they have the press in their back pocket and no one is contradicting them except Trump. And when Trump speaks it gets shown on the news. If they are going to railroad Trump he must not be allowed to raise any issues or doubts.
#8 OneGuy on 2023-10-26 21:32 (Reply)
Trump will be convicted, because the (cough, cough, lol) "Law" he's broken needs no VICTIM to be damaged, and the CRIMINAL doesn't need to have gained any advantage, or money. Tailor made to convict whoever you want to convict.
#8.1 Alpha_Omega on 2023-10-26 23:39 (Reply)
Alpha_Omega: the (cough, cough, lol) "Law" he's broken needs no VICTIM to be damaged
    Traffic officer: You were going 100 mph in a school zone.

    Scofflaw: But no one was hurt. You're saying the law needs no VICTIM to be damaged. That doesn't seem fair.

    Traffic officer: Tell it to the judge.
#8.1.1 Zachriel on 2023-10-27 10:56 (Reply)
The false analogy fallacy is the assumption that two things share multiple similarities simply because they have one thing in common.
#8.1.1.1 Alpha_Omega on 2023-10-27 19:50 (Reply)
It’s not an analogy, but a counterexample to your claim that a valid law requires a victim. Society has laws intended to promote a safe environment for vehicular traffic, just as society has rules of the road for commerce, such as not allowing misrepresentation on financial statements.
#8.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2023-10-27 21:51 (Reply)
A traffic violation versus a madeup conspiracy theory.

Thanks Quibble-DickZ for another valid comparison. Check with your ChatGPT.before commenting.
#8.1.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2023-10-27 23:10 (Reply)

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