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First thing, call for help and call 911

Mrs. BD and I recently took on an in-person CPR course with those rubber dummies. It was a good refresher.

Those EMS people taught the 30 pumps, then mouth-to-mouth, and repeat. They made a good point which is that, if somebody doesn't need it, they will resist. When somebody goes down it's not easy to know for sure. As they said, forget about looking for a pulse because you'll only feel your own.

This Youtube is pump only.

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My wife teaches CPR. She says the mistake many people make is to not push hard enough. For a healthy adult, you have to feel as though you're gonna crack a rib with your pumping. Gotta really get into that "Stayin' Alive" beat!

#1 Frank on 2023-09-03 13:07 (Reply)

First thing, call for help and call 911

Nah, first this is to find this video on YouTube. 'Cause no one in the room under the age of forty can find their butt with both hands, let alone do anything useful.

#2 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2023-09-03 13:15 (Reply)

In vintage legacy America we learned on the training dummy during fourth grade.
Learned excellent spelling thanks to third grade teacher that I couldn't stand at the time. (h/t-Mrs. H)
Do they have rainbow hair and every ethnicity or race represented dummies for the egalitarian equity society?
We wouldn't want anyone to be offended or have hurt feelings.
It's a good thing external enemies can't see how demoralized and unserious the Fundamental Transformation society is.
Oh wait.

#3 Pleasure Pave Sewers on 2023-09-03 13:18 (Reply)

When I took CPR class, maybe 40 years ago, they said recipients of correctly done CPR would often have cracked ribs.

We were also told that when the breathing was administered it wasn't unusual for the victim to vomit, which would obviously create more problems. It was never explained to us how a person with no pulse or breathing would be capable of vomiting.

A few years back I remember reading that one should just concentrate on the pumping and forget about trying to force air into the victim.

#4 feeblemind on 2023-09-03 14:50 (Reply)

The reason the victim regurgitates ie vomits, is because the airway is not correctly manipulated with the jaw thrust forward, the back of the tongue obstructs the flow of air, so it takes the path of least resistance and goes down the esophagus instead of the trachea, adds air to the stomach and at some point, it builds up enough pressure to bring the stomach contents up into the pharynx and mouth. One should see the chest rise with decent technique. It is not easy to perform correctly.

#4.1 Morris on 2023-09-03 16:30 (Reply)

Good video to know but first thing is to jump in there and do something rather than standing around waiting for someone else to take charge. I think they call that the bystander effect, the hesitancy to do anything if there are other people around.

#5 Jerryskids on 2023-09-03 15:26 (Reply)

Never underestimate the value of screaming 'bloody murder'.
I was at a picnic when I noticed a suscipious gathering across the street along the seawall. I walked over just as they were fishing a fellow out of the Lake. We did CPR on the steps until EMS arrived but it didn't work.
Point is there was a gathering of 40 Critical Care RN's and Respitory Techs right across the street.

#6 Hayden Goseek RN on 2023-09-03 15:49 (Reply)

Good to know. Dealing with trauma is important too. Preventing blood loss, tourniquet, Israeli bandage.

A few years back, gee, 15 years back now that I think about it. I man fell off a steep trail into a canyon. Maybe only 50 feet or so but got severely injured. Unconscious, compound facture of his leg that was bleeding profusely and broken ribs and lots of cuts and road rash. His wife couldn't climb down and was screaming for help. I was up the trail 2-3 hundred yards and ran down to see what was going on. I could see him down there but it was a tough climb to get there. When I go to him he was unresponsive and bleed badly, quite a pool of blood. I did have a tourniquet and used it to stop the bleeding. I yelled up to my wife to hike to an overlook and call 911. They took a long time, over an hour, maybe two. Had to airlift him out and that took almost another hour. But he made it.

I keep a tourniquet and Israeli bandage in each of our vehicles, in my fanny pack, day pack and over night pack.

I know someone will be tempted to comment that tourniquets can be dangerous and they can. They only buy you a few hours but without them the discussion about their faults is kinda academic. When seconds count help is only hours away.

#7 OneGuy on 2023-09-03 16:27 (Reply)

Proud to say I finally moved out of Portland. After AntifaBLM the cops do not, will not come, 911 is so screwed it just might never recover, but go ahead, call ‘em. Give you something to do while patient dies.

However, there will be plenty of scrubs around with cell phone cameras waiting for their fellow whites or anyone in uniform. Portlanders love editing hate into their community

#8 Larry on 2023-09-04 03:50 (Reply)

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First thing, call for help and call 911