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Saturday, April 15. 2023Notes about "cardio" exerciseLet's get two things straight first: - An hour of physical activity daily, just walking, jogging, or swimming laps, is better than nothing. It's minimal to maintain functionality. - You can't lose fat through exercise. That's about food. I've been chatting with doctors lately - my cardiologist for my annual stress test (no symptoms, no problems) and the internist who works out in my gym at 5 am. Oh, and my pure weights friend who is my internist (he is buff at 60). They joke about people who do long/slow exercise instead of weights and HIIT, but they are wrong to disparage people who make the effort to do anything more than sit on their asses. Of course, though, I know what the docs are talking about. Let's just talk about cardiac fitness rather than just the ability to hike for 5 or 6 hours. The reasons to do "cardio" exercises are only secondarily for general endurance - they mean to address the heart muscle. That means Cardiac Output when needed, and improving heart vasculature (so you can maybe survive your first heart attack). People who just do "cardio" things do not build or maintain much strength. That gets us to HIIT. HIIT is a serious cardiac stressor. It's sort-of fun too if you like to sweat. Yes, heavy weights are heart stressors too, but only for seconds. Our Maggie's calisthenics routines are too, to a degree, although they are more oriented to athleticism. For people who like fitness, one way to do cardio days (assuming you do 2 weights days and 2 calisthenic/sports days) is to use the hour or so to mix in the HIIT with just trucking along. That's how the idea is designed to work anyway. Low-Intensity Cardio Training: What Is It & How Does It Work? (Note that they assume that low intensity is just one part of a fitness program) Is High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) the Most Efficient Way to Work Out? A simple guide to high-intensity interval training, or HIIT, the fitness trend du jour. Eventually, we will all break down, get frail, and die (or die before we get frail), but why not make the most of today? Fitness is not about life span.
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Since we're getting things "straight":
1. Physicians get very little education about exercise or nutrition in medical school and they get even less in residency training. Other than knowing some of the lingo and sounding knowledgable, an MD degree is virtually meaningless when it comes to knowledge about nutrition or exercise. 2. Being "buff" does not correlate with knowledge about exercise. 3. There are three groups of idiots when it comes to exercise: (a) the only weights and HIIT group, (b) the only "cardio" group, and (c) the no exercise at all group. You made some good points. I am a believer in exercise and I always enjoyed weights, the machines not so much. But I don't think you are right about the value cardio exercise and I also don't agree that cardio won't help you lose weight.
Here is where I think we disagree; for me cardio is not on a machine and it isn't once around the track. It is 6-7 days a week running 3-6 miles and sometimes 8-9 miles. This is so different from a treadmill or other gym cardio machines. What running does for you is strengthens your entire cardio vascular system; lungs 50% larger capacity, blood vessels larger and more developed, heart capacity 50% greater and the ability to store a lot of glycogen in muscles and organs. Weight lifting does not do this and "a little cardio" does not do this. It is a process that takes most athletes 2-3 years to max out. The problem for most people is they don't have the time or desire to do this. I get it! But this tends to make them want to ignore or downplay the value of an aggressive cardio workout everyday. On the weight loss issue it again goes back to what your typical gym rat thinks cardio is and what a hiker or distance runner thinks cardio is. Take your average overweight person, perhaps 50~ lbs overweight, and put on a backpack and hike 15-20 miles a day for 3 months. Thier weight will be the best it's ever been after that. Their energy and stamina will be great too. This would be true for a runner too if they are running everyday 3-6 miles a day. The problem, the disagreement really is that most people who don't think walking or running will cause you to lose weight are considering a very minor program of walking or running. I don't say any of this just to argue. I really think that there is a disconnect that many people have on this because they never experienced it. And they are getting their information from someone who prefers weights only or thinks cardio is 15 minutes an a machine. My suggestion is to try it. Commit to training for a marathon, run in some 10K's and 20K's and then take on a marathon and when you get to that point your weight will be optimal. AND if you choose to also lift weights everyday too then your strength and conditioning will be great too. Don't listen to the guy in the gym that never liked to run or never ran a marathon their understanding of all the components of conditioning is limited by a lack of actual knowledge. "Why You Should Not Be Running"
[url] https://startingstrength.com/article/why-you-should-not-be-running [/url] The article is not wrong. If you want to look like a muscle builder do not run. Simple as that. If you want to make your cardio vascular system as strong as possible then run 6-7 days a week for an hour more or less with at least 1 or 2 longer runs each week. I do not think that running by itself is the be all end all of exercise just as weight lifting is not either. What I suggest is you run everyday and lift weights everyday. A balance approach, not a body builder routine and not a marathon winning routine but a good balanced exercise routine that is natural and complete. Just as if you wanted to be a bowler you would run or lift weights you would bowl. So if muscle mass or extreme strength is your goal you should not run at all. No argument from me.
I might be looking to "cut" in the coming months. Do I need to go into a mild caloric deficit AND do cardio, or just the former?
Lose body fat and show muscle definition. Most of the body builders I knew would eat egg white omelets and plain tuna from the can (canned in water not oil). Still maintain their calories but no fats and almost no carbs.
"so you can maybe survive your first heart attack"
So I survived it last month, a complete blockage of the LAD or "widowmaker". I had a good (excellent) stress test result in October, for what that's worth. Had been working out 5x/week, 2 days powerlifts, 2 days of 20-30 min on the bike (70-80% of max hr) and a day of mostly calisthenics (push-ups, pull-ups, etc). Anyway, it must have been enough to help me survive And thanks for these posts. They have contributed to my commitment to exercise regularly and may have helped save my life.
Is there a link somewhere for Maggies cardio??
This information makes sense, thanks. |